A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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In ASWAH I try to steer away from traditional staples of Tolkien-esque fantasy, elves dwarfs orcs etc... That is not to say they have no presence. Azer are basically dwarfs on fire and Avariel present on the Plane of air are a winged subspecies of elves, but I try to keep away from the base expectations culturally. The world of ASOIAF has plenty of strange and unexpected hooks to play with.
Buuuuuuu buuuuuuuu my magnificent beards????
Related question. Can viseryis grow a beard. Not shape shifting , proper true beard.
He's probably old enough for it, but full beards are pretty unusual in Braavos, not to mention the negative conotation of Aerys' beard (he only grew it out when he was too paranoid to trust anyone with a razor in his company).
Truly that man has ruined everything.
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egoo
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ASWAH's species are better anyway. Screw that "tall pointy eared magic human" , "short beardy tunnel humans" , and "shorter shifty humans" shit.
Bring me ancient lizard folk, fey bug people, fleshcrafted abominations , whatever those beetle guys in the neck are, and not!skaven any day of the week.
Bring me ancient lizard folk, fey bug people, fleshcrafted abominations , whatever those beetle guys in the neck are, and not!skaven any day of the week.
egoo
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@Everyone, I know that some of you may be vehemetly against the idea, but I'd like to raise the possibility of us summoning powerful Daemons 'randomly' in the future.
Now, I know that some think it a "bad habit to get into".
And some are afraid of making more powerful enemies when summoning indiscriminately...
The point is, however, that unlike Demons, Daemons are finite.
They still have larger force than Devils (and significantly more infighting) as per DPs ruling, but they also don't have the Hells' coordination.
Those guys are a cancer upon creation, and objectively, yes, we cannot remove enough of them to matter via summoning...
But what I think we could do, is summon away champions, and various Greater Daemons.
We are, by very defenition, already at war with all four Horseman of theirs.
Fucking with their plans in that way, however, would objectively make Planes a better place.
I'm not doing this to get sacrifices either, we have our Larder nicely filled monthly as is, even with all of Mammon's Devils being slated for recruitment.
Largely, it's because of the HD we have reamining after we summon everyone under the "specific summoning target" tab.
...Well, you'll see when DP chooses to drop the numbers.
My SoD is kinda strained by the fact we could potentially get up to 200-300 Lesser Phoenixes a month from Viserys and Lya alone.
Sure, it's awesome, but I'd like to proactively fuck up plans of ArchDaemons instead, when it is certain that they will one day attack us.
(Summoning itsef is perfectly safe, at least insofar as corrupting influences are concerned - Snare can only get more paranoidally better if we put Darleth on that... and I kinda intend to, soon enough
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Now, I know that some think it a "bad habit to get into".
And some are afraid of making more powerful enemies when summoning indiscriminately...
The point is, however, that unlike Demons, Daemons are finite.
They still have larger force than Devils (and significantly more infighting) as per DPs ruling, but they also don't have the Hells' coordination.
Those guys are a cancer upon creation, and objectively, yes, we cannot remove enough of them to matter via summoning...
But what I think we could do, is summon away champions, and various Greater Daemons.
We are, by very defenition, already at war with all four Horseman of theirs.
Fucking with their plans in that way, however, would objectively make Planes a better place.
I'm not doing this to get sacrifices either, we have our Larder nicely filled monthly as is, even with all of Mammon's Devils being slated for recruitment.
Largely, it's because of the HD we have reamining after we summon everyone under the "specific summoning target" tab.
...Well, you'll see when DP chooses to drop the numbers.
My SoD is kinda strained by the fact we could potentially get up to 200-300 Lesser Phoenixes a month from Viserys and Lya alone.
Sure, it's awesome, but I'd like to proactively fuck up plans of ArchDaemons instead, when it is certain that they will one day attack us.
(Summoning itsef is perfectly safe, at least insofar as corrupting influences are concerned - Snare can only get more paranoidally better if we put Darleth on that... and I kinda intend to, soon enough
)
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The Drow probably are the Elves. I'm Pathfinder lore, Elves which succumb to darkness can spontaneously transform into Drow. Given the shittiness of Planet is and the general shambles that are the Planes, Hellven included, there probably isn't a single non-Drow Elf on existence.
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I personally don't have a problem with it so long as certain lines are drawn on what we do, but maybe there is a better compromise.@Everyone, I know that some of you may be vehemetly against the idea, but I'd like to raise the possibility of us summoning powerful Daemons 'randomly' in the future.
Now, I know that some think it a "bad habit to get into".
And some are afraid of making more powerful enemies when summoning indiscriminately...
The point is, however, that unlike Demons, Daemons are finite.
They still have larger force than Devils (and significantly more infighting) as per DPs ruling, but they also don't have the Hells' coordination.
Those guys are a cancer upon creation, and objectively, yes, we cannot remove enough of them to matter via summoning...
But what I think we could do, is summon away champions, and various Greater Daemons.
We are, by very defenition, already at war with all four Horseman of theirs.
Fucking with their plans in that way, however, would objectively make Planes a better place.
I'm not doing this to get sacrifices either, we have our Larder nicely filled monthly as is, even with all of Mammon's Devils being slated for recruitment.
Largely, it's because of the HD we have reamining after we summon everyone under the "specific summoning target" tab.
...Well, you'll see when DP chooses to drop the numbers.
My SoD is kinda strained by the fact we could potentially get up to 200-300 Lesser Phoenixes a month from Viserys and Lya alone.
Sure, it's awesome, but I'd like to proactively fuck up plans of ArchDaemons instead, when it is certain that they will one day attack us.
(Summoning itsef is perfectly safe, at least insofar as corrupting influences are concerned - Snare can only get more paranoidally better if we put Darleth on that... and I kinda intend to, soon enough
We're unlikely to do ourselves much good summoning champions, but if we're just grabbing sacrifice power why don't we target int 2 or less monsters? There's got to be some type of daemon or demon that effectively qualifies as a dumb animal incapable of changing or understanding that it needs to change.
That would turn summoning into extraplanar fishing instead of an ethical problem or physical threat.
egoo
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Yeah, fair enough.
...now that should be a mighty weird image for a female human caster to walk up to Dwarven people.
Ah, but the fact that it isn't done for HD alone was half my point to begin with.
We aren't hurting for sacrifices anymore.
Not in items, nor in "people".
And grabbing random bags of Daemon-blood off the planes...
Well, it won't change much, will it?
They still have all their massive regular forces and their champions.
I am trying to push through the idea because I think we have a chance of actually affecting the plans of four Horseman with it, and weak offensе is better than no offense, yes?
*Grumbles about not having a Fey-court tied to SD, having made a boat instead*
*grumbles that giving it to Orphne would just fuck more shit up*
I'm of the mind to have it researched in the 12th month.
We might just get mighty insight into bullshit of CoS, and a discount on making Fey/Narrative-related Artifacts.
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Please do not remind me of that
I doubt we will be getting another chance like that anytime soon...
Unless... Do you think Dryads can spread by cuttings?
egoo
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There is a Driad-led Fey court in Westeros, to which I'm hoping to send a small team of adventurers on a diplomatic mission next turn.Please do not remind me of that
I doubt we will be getting another chance like that anytime soon...
Unless... Do you think Dryads can spread by cuttings?
To see if they can be trusted (insomuch as Fey can be), if they can be reasonably bargained with, etc...
Or if the entrance to Feywild they are guarding should burn with their grove.
Aside from that our Ship-driad could eventually get a seed, that one can possibly give one too...
Albeit, I don't think weld like the price she'll ask
Ah my dream of a Phoenixes being a standard sight in all orphanages and schools is becoming a reality. Soon they will forever be linked in mortal minds as the wise and caring mentors of plucky young children. End goal? Make a Velen the Phoenix God of children, childcare.
Also can the Phoenixes lay eggs? Cause I want baby Phoenixes taking lessons in the schools!
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Ok, plan B, we force-fed The Other Rhaella a bunch of power by getting her a proper court.
First we look for a lot of Dryads seeds, and plant them on our other ships, lesser Dryads of course, but part of her court.
Then we ask her how she needs to produce her own seed, if she is a Queen that would give us an interrupted line of Fey royalty to produce our Island Queen.
It would be like a Coconut 🥥, with a migratory Sea phase and then colonizing new lands, with our Island being the central court, kind of like ourselves.
I guess the analogy also works with people, Polynesians and such.
First we look for a lot of Dryads seeds, and plant them on our other ships, lesser Dryads of course, but part of her court.
Then we ask her how she needs to produce her own seed, if she is a Queen that would give us an interrupted line of Fey royalty to produce our Island Queen.
It would be like a Coconut 🥥, with a migratory Sea phase and then colonizing new lands, with our Island being the central court, kind of like ourselves.
I guess the analogy also works with people, Polynesians and such.
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- Mexico
Oh yeah, the Court-Dryad, I think that would give us a nice Solution for how we can free Best Uncle from the tree without severing his connection to the Old God, she "found a way to carry her tree with her" right?There is a Driad-led Fey court in Westeros, to which I'm hoping to send a small team of adventurers on a diplomatic mission next turn.
To see if they can be trusted (insomuch as Fey can be), if they can be reasonably bargained with, etc...
Or if the entrance to Feywild they are guarding should burn with their grove.
Aside from that our Ship-driad could eventually get a seed, that one can possibly give one too...
Albeit, I don't think weld like the price she'll ask
egoo
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- Russia
Don't get your hopes up.
As much as we are asking them to do Good deeds, large portion of them very likely has their own duties already, and however infinite the Planes are, I'm not sure if the rate we can summon them would be great for...
Let's call it "ecosystem".
Less phoenixes = more assholes succeeding in their vile deeds, after all.
Ah, if only there was a Neutral Outsider not intrinsically tied to doing any job that keeps the Planes from breaking (i.e. remaining Inevitables), that was useful for us in military capacity and aligned closely enough to our ideals to be persuaded en-mass...
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Regarding Fey Courts in Sorcerer's Deep, we preempt this by vassalizing Fey when they're still tiny. They swear to us, then grow into full lords and ladies and make subordinate courts.
This happened with Glyra, Queen Rhaella, Moonsong, the Bulabar and Pech, etc. I imagine the Faerie Dragon is going to eventually get her own court as well.
We can help this along with an action to poach the stray Fey Lords and Ladies that the Court of Stars hasn't yet bound. Of course, that would be a full action, and we don't have time for it at the moment.
This happened with Glyra, Queen Rhaella, Moonsong, the Bulabar and Pech, etc. I imagine the Faerie Dragon is going to eventually get her own court as well.
We can help this along with an action to poach the stray Fey Lords and Ladies that the Court of Stars hasn't yet bound. Of course, that would be a full action, and we don't have time for it at the moment.
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Totally unrelated to the discussion, this is a great thematic feat for Burny-minions to have: Glorious Heat – d20PFSRD
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- Mexico
The Lords and Ladies we can get that way, but I want the Queen to be our own, born and raised in our lands.
Hmph, how dare that Infinite Planes think not apply to Best Bird numbers! Well just add them to the bloodwished increased fertility list. Seriously look at the little birdie!
egoo
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- Russia
...something to Wish for when Viserys' xp reaches its cap?
"Emperor's fire burns his foes... But heals those loyal to him!"
Boom. Instant PR from every fire-spell.
(And yes, I know it isn't the best feat to Wish for. It would further the "firebird our bitch"-narrative we took up with Genie-granted feat tho')