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It would be fair so long as it's earned. Even the Son of Heaven wouldn't just get a Mythic Rank handed to him.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Let's say that defeating Pol Qo and the Lord of Carcosa would get you MR 1. Sound fair?
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Gotta say, I kind of love how the Quest has gone from fighting thugs and worrying about Robert's assassins, to "hmm I think I'll slay the Lords of Hell and restore broken Heaven, no big deal." Robert Baratheon himself seems like such an afterthought at this point.
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Yeah, that's definitely a suitable challenge. Even as Viserys I'm concerned about how facing the Sorcerer Lord of Carcosa will go.
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Better bumrush the fucker ASAP, eh? While magical is just barely a spark still.
Personally, I'd be a Psion Telepath: Read Thoughts and Suggestion as second level powers is too good to pass, and I bet Yi Ti has plenty of masters at focusing one's mind and will.
To be honest, it'd be easier to be Joffrey. Why? Because the young nobles of Westeros are expected to be active, perform outdoors activities and maybe even travel the land. So you're not stuck in terms of getting XP.
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Not really. It's the Yi Tish equivalent of trying to bum rush Bloodraven. This guy was called a Sorcerer Lord when magic was still dead.
I'm honestly shocked the man hasn't already conquered the empire with the kind of power he has to wield.
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Like said, overcoming challenges of any sort is enough to give you XP. That's not new.
To highlight how difficult the political scenario is, you have two pretenders in essentially, or literal, open rebelion: a rich general and a sorcerer.
It's a balancing act of following tradition and getting things done, with the advantage that every moment you hang on is some XP you rake in.
A guaranteed Mythic Rank for putting down the rebellions is plenty appealin on its own, as that first step is so incredibly hard.
If he was remotely as good as Bloodraven, he wouldn't be a pretender. He'd be the Emperor.
Instead, it's like trying to bumrush Zherys. Perfectly doable, if dangerous.
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For example: back in the early days, we completed a quest of taking over, or doing so in all but name, the Rat Guild for ~1k XP, and taking over the other two would have netted like 4K XP.
SI!Emperor would have tons of opportunities to do things like those.
SI!Emperor would have tons of opportunities to do things like those.
Crake
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Yellow Pretender could just be acting behind some Restrictions, same as the Bloodstone. Like for instance trying to ensure there's actually an Empire to rule, and it just so happens that the Azure fool in your Seat is the element of stability infinitely more preferable to cronies from that Twice Traitor over in Asshai gaining control of the Throne.
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Is he probably very scary by now? Yes.
But I highly doubt he couldn't be dealt with if you rushed him in, say, a year, a year and a half.
Get your house in order and Yin can be a fantastic backbone for any army, it's the biggest city in all of Planetos. It's an entire kingdom on its own.
War would get your troops bloodied, experienced and loyal, provided you give adequate rewards. Would significantly boost your reputation. I suspect even bitter rivals in Yin would gladly join hands against "nothern barbarians", such as the general.
Let's look on the brighter side, too: you can try to awaken the weaker Kami to protect you, and even by now Bu Gai is still holding on, and he's made some important reforms hasn't he? New Blossoms or something?
So even all the scheming isn't too dangerous at the start, and Bu Gai is probably decent at it.
But I highly doubt he couldn't be dealt with if you rushed him in, say, a year, a year and a half.
Get your house in order and Yin can be a fantastic backbone for any army, it's the biggest city in all of Planetos. It's an entire kingdom on its own.
War would get your troops bloodied, experienced and loyal, provided you give adequate rewards. Would significantly boost your reputation. I suspect even bitter rivals in Yin would gladly join hands against "nothern barbarians", such as the general.
Let's look on the brighter side, too: you can try to awaken the weaker Kami to protect you, and even by now Bu Gai is still holding on, and he's made some important reforms hasn't he? New Blossoms or something?
So even all the scheming isn't too dangerous at the start, and Bu Gai is probably decent at it.
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With the right selection of abilities, you could probably even easily ferret out who's loyal and who's not, and start preparing for that Palace Counter- Coup as a back-up to mundane scheming simply by arranging for all the right people to be informed of plausibly incriminating stuff simultaneously, then figure out your panic room as a fallback for when leading your Court Guard in slaughtering the traitors takes a turn for the worse and hope to God Damn your pleas reach your CR 15 backup and that nothing stomping around out there can pose a threat to it that early on.
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Wind of Death is the strongest of the four luminaries, but your could probably awaken the weakest one far earlier, once magic is back, by ringing the gong.
Worth noting is that you likely have an absolutely insane set of gear if the Dawn Age Imperial Regalia got preserved.
One PrC I can easily see happening is a souped-up Jade Phoenix Mage, where you actually become the eponymous Jade Phoenix.
Worth noting is that you likely have an absolutely insane set of gear if the Dawn Age Imperial Regalia got preserved.
One PrC I can easily see happening is a souped-up Jade Phoenix Mage, where you actually become the eponymous Jade Phoenix.
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Full-casting advancement?
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Of course, and it's a great PrC on its own too.
I think you'd get access to Jade Fire, which is initially dealing half raw magical damage like many of the effects it already has, and progressing to full raw magical damage.
But you'd get things like glorious jade fire wings, some SLA-like effects, maybe a fire cloak that grants natural attacks, etc.
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I have a question, the thing about the broken heavens is being treated as a horrifying revelation that can drive people into despair, and I mean, sure, it's bad, but how bad is it?
The way I see it, the Old Blood and similar people of Valyrian descent that keep to the fourteen are ducked (autocorrect, but I think I will leave it this way), as are the followers of trios, and anyone who thought themselves clever and went atheist despite overwhelming evidence of God's, but should not most people at least in Westeros be protected from it? Most people seem to either keep to the seven or the old Gods, or were not planning on going to any of the upper planes anyway.
Am I getting it wrong? Are the entry conditions for the existing planes much more strict that I thought? Or are people in Westeros more emphatic that I give them credit for? I thought even Yohn Royce would take the news the same way he would take being informed that people are suffering in slavers bay, truth, but not immediately relevant.
The way I see it, the Old Blood and similar people of Valyrian descent that keep to the fourteen are ducked (autocorrect, but I think I will leave it this way), as are the followers of trios, and anyone who thought themselves clever and went atheist despite overwhelming evidence of God's, but should not most people at least in Westeros be protected from it? Most people seem to either keep to the seven or the old Gods, or were not planning on going to any of the upper planes anyway.
Am I getting it wrong? Are the entry conditions for the existing planes much more strict that I thought? Or are people in Westeros more emphatic that I give them credit for? I thought even Yohn Royce would take the news the same way he would take being informed that people are suffering in slavers bay, truth, but not immediately relevant.
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They have to be shepherded by their divine servants/good Samaritan Devas to their Divine Realms. And I'm not 100% certain that the OG have a reflection on the Divine Realm, since I think they're partly bound physically to their Weirwood Network, which helps channel the Green Dream (which is aforementioned Realm/Afterlife).
So basically, even if you have a God and are faithful, even if they wanted to help you, it's an utter roll of the dice that you won't get eaten since you're just popped off in some part of the Planes, as the old system that ferried Souls to and fro where they needed to go is broke as fuck, yo.
So the knowledge that your God is not omnipotent, might not be able to do jackshit for you Alive OR Dead, even though you were promised salvation in death in reward for virtue and being faithful?
It's all a Great Big Lie. That's what causes despair. There is no plan. They're clueless too. They're just winging it. That's horrifying for people that aren't Companions or Viserys who have already decided to fix things themselves and not rely on Gods as anything more than business partners or military allies in a literal War.
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Oh yeah, that sounds bad, so fixing the path itself is the priority, with retaking the Spheres a low second then?
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We've got "build a new afterlife with clear channels in and defensible ones out" as a long-term plan. Retaking the Planes even more distant, since it involves taking the fight to battlefields that make the Elemental War look like child's play.
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It's like two AM here and I gotta be up early, but something like:
Using Jade Phoenix Mage as base:
- d8, full BAB, six + INT skills, all good saves
- Casting goes to 10/10, from 8/10.
- Maneuver progression isn't limited by school.
- Immunity to disease/poison.
- Rite of Waking now +1/JPM level.
- Arcane Wrath eventually becomes a free action
- Empowering Strike and Quickening Strike aren't restricted to 1/encounter anymore.
- Phoenix Stance and Firebird Stance become one, DR gets better type, any fire damage dealt while using the stance eventually becomes raw magic, deal bonus damage equal to your fire cloak's on melee attacks.
-- Eventually becomes automatic.
- Jade Phoenix Master does something funky, like applying Metamagic to stances by increasing their recharge time (so you won't recover a maximized stance before three turns).
-- Maybe convert a spell into a maneuver of equal level.
- Wings, flying from medium to good to perfect at (30xJPM level) ft.
- Self Immolation hits harder, you True Ress automatically 1d6 rounds after you die, fully rested with all the gear you immolated with, and if you die again before one week then you wait that much for it to trigger again. If you are soul bound you deal your Immolation damage to the container whenever you'd trigger the auto Ress. You still gain the ability score increases from age, but you are forever youthful, self-immolating to a lesser degree every so often to reset your body.
Using Jade Phoenix Mage as base:
- d8, full BAB, six + INT skills, all good saves
- Casting goes to 10/10, from 8/10.
- Maneuver progression isn't limited by school.
- Immunity to disease/poison.
- Rite of Waking now +1/JPM level.
- Arcane Wrath eventually becomes a free action
- Empowering Strike and Quickening Strike aren't restricted to 1/encounter anymore.
- Phoenix Stance and Firebird Stance become one, DR gets better type, any fire damage dealt while using the stance eventually becomes raw magic, deal bonus damage equal to your fire cloak's on melee attacks.
-- Eventually becomes automatic.
- Jade Phoenix Master does something funky, like applying Metamagic to stances by increasing their recharge time (so you won't recover a maximized stance before three turns).
-- Maybe convert a spell into a maneuver of equal level.
- Wings, flying from medium to good to perfect at (30xJPM level) ft.
- Self Immolation hits harder, you True Ress automatically 1d6 rounds after you die, fully rested with all the gear you immolated with, and if you die again before one week then you wait that much for it to trigger again. If you are soul bound you deal your Immolation damage to the container whenever you'd trigger the auto Ress. You still gain the ability score increases from age, but you are forever youthful, self-immolating to a lesser degree every so often to reset your body.
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No point fixing the paths if they lead to a black hole at worse, virtually Hell at best.
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But that would also fix the path towards each individual pantheon afterlife wouldn't it? Just make it a law that everyone has to belong to one of the approved religions, with Yss seal of approval, which would fix things in the .... medium term? Easier than retaking the upper planes at least.
Crake
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Holy God Damn that's great.
It's arguably still Not Literally Being A Dragon, but still great. Definitely a being worth being called Son of Heaven.
Crake
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The goal would be to work backwards, build a new divine realm, fix a secure path toward it, staff it with defenders, then build 'roads' to allied divine Realms, also staffed with defenders.
Bringing Inevitable production on Mechanus back up would probably buy us a few centuries to actually pull off half that shit without Baator, Abaddon or the Void shitting Planar-sized armies down our throats.
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Eh, Inevitables on full production might take issues with our reordering of the Planes.
It would be perfect to help them later, so they can guard the new order, post facto its establishment that they couldn't prevent or hinder.