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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 25, 2019 at 2:13 PM, finished with 74 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] "Have you, perchance, met Sarah of Pentos, who now teaches at the Scholarium in Sorcerer's Deep? She was once enslaved by Tor before we freed her in Pentos, serving not only as a source of blood to fuel his powers, but forced to use her magic to aid him in his madness, to work alongside him as he conducted torturous experiments which twisted the living and the dead in unspeakable ways."
    -[X] "We killed him during that encounter, but did nothing to prevent his soul from moving on or being Resurrected later, a decision I regret. We were not aware at the time, but Tor had already made a pact with a dark god, an evil, malicious, counterpart to Yss. It resurrected Tor in Sothoryos, among the few remaining serpentfolk in existence. He was irrevocably changed, however, both in body and in soul, remade as the god he dealt with wished. No longer just obssessed with power and control, Tor arose anew as a madman, one who killed for the simple joy of killing, and would have shortly wiped out the remaining serpentfolk had we not intervened."
    --[X] "Once Tor's soul belonged to his new master, we could never allow it to be free again, for it would simply be able to return him to life elsewhere to once more carry out its plans."
    ---[X] "I did not want the last memory you possessed of Tor to be of betrayal and madness. The last embers of guilt I felt at killing a man who gifted my sister nameday presents and told me stories by the fire have faded, but that doesn't excuse holding back when forging oaths with those close to him."
    ----[X] "Before anyone can cut in, at this point succinctly say, "I'll release you from your oaths should you feel scorned by this revelation. I owe you all that much. And I would greatly value your continued, and willing, service, not to mention the wisdom and experience you have gathered throughout your long lives. Either way, should you choose to remain in my service or leave to seek your fortunes elsewhere, I hope that we can remain friends."
 
Another question about Yi-Ti, is there protocol for an equal ruler to visit the Emperor?
Because I kinda doubt that.

Hahaha NO.

Though common sense rules here. The Emperor isn't going to offer insult to someone who's agents saved his life nor will he make Viserys kowtow to him since, obviously, while an ignorant foreigner, he's also a Dread Sorcerer. One unbound by the cultural taboo or restraints put in place by his own rule of law (already obviously somewhat tenuous, as the Eunuch shows).
 
[X] Goldfish

I know the vote's over, I just like the author to know I'm reading, though I really just lurk here.
 
Man I'm loving all the YiTi interludes so far. And oh shit spiritual guardians awakening! And man the only one that awoke has Time Stop as an SLA? Whew lad that's powerful.

Also DP, I would totally hit up Journey to the West for inspiration. It's pretty much like the Bible of terms of influencing and inspiring pretty much all Eastern media that came after it. Seriously look up Su WuKong and then look at Goku and Naruto. The inspiration is p damn obvious.
 
I'm loving the Yi-Ti stuff, but hating the plan.
I was away during the debates, but I would not have given them such an opportunity to quit our service without having first mentioned some of his crimes.
I mean, the slavery was really only a start, wasn't it ?
 
I'm loving the Yi-Ti stuff, but hating the plan.
I was away during the debates, but I would not have given them such an opportunity to quit our service without having first mentioned some of his crimes.
I mean, the slavery was really only a start, wasn't it ?

Uh? We pretty thoroughly mention what-all he did wrong. If they think us unjustified even then, there was little we could do to maintain any good will.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 25, 2019 at 2:13 PM, finished with 74 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] "Have you, perchance, met Sarah of Pentos, who now teaches at the Scholarium in Sorcerer's Deep? She was once enslaved by Tor before we freed her in Pentos, serving not only as a source of blood to fuel his powers, but forced to use her magic to aid him in his madness, to work alongside him as he conducted torturous experiments which twisted the living and the dead in unspeakable ways."
    -[X] "We killed him during that encounter, but did nothing to prevent his soul from moving on or being Resurrected later, a decision I regret. We were not aware at the time, but Tor had already made a pact with a dark god, an evil, malicious, counterpart to Yss. It resurrected Tor in Sothoryos, among the few remaining serpentfolk in existence. He was irrevocably changed, however, both in body and in soul, remade as the god he dealt with wished. No longer just obssessed with power and control, Tor arose anew as a madman, one who killed for the simple joy of killing, and would have shortly wiped out the remaining serpentfolk had we not intervened."
    --[X] "Once Tor's soul belonged to his new master, we could never allow it to be free again, for it would simply be able to return him to life elsewhere to once more carry out its plans."
    ---[X] "I did not want the last memory you possessed of Tor to be of betrayal and madness. The last embers of guilt I felt at killing a man who gifted my sister nameday presents and told me stories by the fire have faded, but that doesn't excuse holding back when forging oaths with those close to him."
    ----[X] "Before anyone can cut in, at this point succinctly say, "I'll release you from your oaths should you feel scorned by this revelation. I owe you all that much. And I would greatly value your continued, and willing, service, not to mention the wisdom and experience you have gathered throughout your long lives. Either way, should you choose to remain in my service or leave to seek your fortunes elsewhere, I hope that we can remain friends."
 
Part MMMXXV: A Toast to the Damned
A Toast to the Damned

Twentieth Day of the Tenth Month 293 AC

Thankfully you were prepared for this, prepared for worse if truth be told. "Have you, perchance, met Sarah of Pentos, who now teaches at the Scholarium in Sorcerer's Deep? She was once enslaved by Tor before we freed her in Pentos, serving not only as a source of blood to fuel his powers but forced to use her magic to aid him in his madness, to work alongside him as he conducted torturous experiments which twisted the living and the dead in unspeakable ways."

"The young lady did not look particularly anxious or afraid when I first met her, not like a slave with her chains just struck," Menel interjects. "We have all had plenty of experience with that, after all."

"Can't imagine Tor enslaving a proper wizard even if he did go mad, it'd be too bloody dangerous," Lothos agrees with his friend, his voice grimmer than you have ever heard it.

"That is not what madness is..." Dany cuts in almost angrily. "If you can't imagine it that is because he was mad, it's not just being heartless or cruel or..." She takes a deep breath to collect herself. "You all know this, you must have seen it in all the years you lived, the question is if you are willing to believe it, if you can believe it, because if you can't than there is nothing Viserys or I can do to keep you from closing your ears to what happened in Pentos and afterward."

"What do you mean afterwards? You killed him didn't you?" Koron smashes the goblet onto the table, paying no mind to the Arbor Gold splashing onto the table that had been set up for a celebration now forgotten.

"We killed him then, but did nothing to prevent his soul from moving on or being restored later, a decision I later came to regret. What we did not know was that Tor had already made a pact with a dark god, a malevolent shadow of Yss. It resurrected Tor in the depths of Sothoryos, among the few remaining serpentfolk in existence. He was irrevocably changed, however, both in body and in soul, remade as the god he dealt with wished. No longer merely obsessed with power and control, Tor arose anew as a one who killed for the simple joy of killing, and would have shortly wiped out the remaining serpentfolk had we not intervened."

"Yet they call Lady Lya the 'Soul Smith'." A flash of resentment passes through you at Menel's insinuation, though quenched as quickly as it had arisen hearing the sorrow, the heartbreak behind the words.

An uncomfortable silence falls over the room while you consider your next answer. "Do you know what the difference between what Azema was and what Tor became was? Even bound to the Abyss she wished to be free and struggled against it where he walked knowingly into the dark. So what they would you have Lya do, carve out whichever pieces of Tor the rest of us could live with and stitch them back together?"

"We should have looked for him sooner," Grazdan's voice is rough with emotion, but his words clear just the same. "We should have pushed him harder to speak to us those last few months in Braavos." He almost does not seem to see you and Dany, his eyes going in turn to each of his old friends. None of them have an answer.

Yet here you still are and explanations need to be given, hollow as they may now sound. "I did not want the last memory you possessed of Tor to be of betrayal and madness. The last embers of guilt I felt at killing a man who gifted my sister nameday presents and told me stories by the fire have faded, but that doesn't excuse holding back truths when forging oaths with those close to him."

Lothos opens his mouth to speak, but before he can do so you continue with the offer you had decided to make before you even set off for Lorath: "I'll release you from your oaths should you feel scorned by this revelation. I owe you all that much. And I would greatly value your continued, and willing, service, not to mention the wisdom and experience you have gathered throughout your long lives. Either way, should you choose to remain in my service or leave to seek your fortunes elsewhere, I hope that we can remain friends."

If the silence had been heavy before then now it lays thick as an ocean's worth of unspoken words pressing down upon all of you.

Koron takes another long drink of his wine then he smashes it into the table so hard the glass shatters in his hand. Such an easy thing to mend compared to what else may break at this table.

"Tor made his fucking choices and the rest of us made ours, he's deader than dead because of it and we have to live with it..." He trails off. "Fuck, I need something stronger to drink than this shit and lots of it." Almost as an afterthought he adds. "I'm staying. The work's worth waking up in the morning for, the pay's better than we'd likely to get elsewhere."

The shift from 'I' to 'we' is anything but subtle, the request to the others that they follow suite or at least not blame him for his choice.

Grazdan speaks next, looking directly at you. "I do not blame you much for the deception, for nothing could be changed then. What I blame you for was not telling us what Tor had done years ago in Braavos, but you were a boy then, not yet grown into a King. I cannot name you more guilty than any of us were for not looking deeper, and I for one do not wish to leave this company," he looks around the faces of his friends one by one before settling on Koron. "Who else would I drink with to forget... and to remember?"

"To Tor, as we remember him, not as what he became at the end," Aubert Flowers raises an unsteady toast.

"Always said he'd..." Lothos shakes his head at the half-whispered words dying on his lips. He raises his own goblet in a toast "To Tor, at least he's not in Hell, which is likely more than I'll be able to say when I die and stay dead."

Menel is the last to speak, his poise for once deserting him as he visibly hesitates between staying seated and glancing at the door. "A fellowship once divided by ambition and blindness does not deserve to be broken again by recrimination. Someone has to keep Lothos out of Hell after all."

As jests go it's rather terrible. Everyone manages at least a chuckle.

What do you do next?

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OOC: Well here we are, I hope I managed to do the characters justice.
 
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So, conference about how to handle the broken heaven issue next?

We might have to tell people something at least, can't just leave our education system plainly wrong like that.
 
Glad we kept them.... I think we need to do something nice for them later on if only to further ensure no bitterness remains
 
So, conference about how to handle the broken heaven issue next?

We might have to tell people something at least, can't just leave our education system plainly wrong like that.
Definitely. Besides, nothing takes the dread out of even the worst moments in history quite like endless repetition in history classes. We should have some kind of once a year remembrance thing so everybody gets well and properly sick of hearing about this stuff by the time they graduate.
 
I wonder if the idea of using the old gods to form a kind of "World Tree" to bind the heavens together is still viable.

I still like the idea of binding the heavens with it's roots and within it's branches.
 
Definitely. Besides, nothing takes the dread out of even the worst moments in history quite like endless repetition in history classes.
The problem is not the history.
The problem is the current effect.

Whe whole "Heaven is still mostly closed, you'll propably end up in Hell or get your souls eaten by planar predators" issue is something that might be bad for the general happiness of the population.
 
The problem is not the history.
The problem is the current effect.

Whe whole "Heaven is still mostly closed, you'll propably end up in Hell or get your souls eaten by planar predators" issue is something that might be bad for the general happiness of the population.
So we should wait to slip it into the curriculum until after we have a reliable solution, but considering how long a proper education system will take to set up I'm not too concerned. We could probably set up an expensive cludge based on soultrapping right now if we wanted to, and the God of the Imperium project has a lot of promise on this regard.
 
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