... If Okuwamon wasn't already a Stingmon in his slid down form I'd wonder if he was an armored Digmon prior to evolving given his skill at it.
Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)
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Just thinking not enuff dakka if your finisher can't maim your foes
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Not his kill, so no. Verge only loads worthy foes he killed in at least equal share. Since Beat did most of it, it was Beats unless the guy who says "hnn" actually offers to share
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[X] With the Stealth Squad defeated the danger should be past. Inform Galgomon and Wendimon of what transpired and ask if the latter knew anything about the attacks.
Okuwamon is one of those Ultimates which are mid-line...but have one hax which makes it REALLY hard for lower tiers to meaningfully harm them.
Full body diamond hard chitin
Yeah, but he had more than just that.
Remember, the attack from him was also the hardest blow Verge has ever taken, and he was fast enough to compete with Beat's monstrous agility despite his massive size, making WereGarurumon seem slow by comparison.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
No, it's basically the same thing. If his body is that hard, his attacks are going to hit that much harder too.
drexal15
Proud GM
No. He considered it Beat's rightful kill and didn't think loading it to be an honourable action. If there were more enemies around he probably would have loaded some for the sake of practicality, but he considered the battle won.
Ah, good question.
Due to my stat system there are often wide gaps between species members due to the power of their previous forms. The whole multiplicative system means that a difference of 100 becomes 300 then 900, etc.
This particular Okuwamon was a very strong champion (more powerful than Drunky) who then managed to hit his soft caps. But the fact that he'd never hit Mega demotivated him to train any further given the vast amount of effort and resources it would take.
Here were his full stat lines:
Article: Stingmon: (Slid Down)
Strength: 1500
Fortitude: 1900
Endurance: 1430
Agility: 1950
Special: 1250
Spirit: 1250
Okuwamon:
Strength: 7000
Fortitude: 8500
Endurance: 6300
Agility: 7500
Special: 5250
Spirit: 5250
As a note: Due to his speed-size ratio Okuwamon seemed slower than he should have, especially since he was extremly heavy. But as he saw when one on one he was able to blitz Verge with little effort.
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Damn, this battle probably increase the combat experience of the squad, it was intense but they managed to close the gap. The squad is way better than the average champion in terms of general fighting and Beat really deserves be congratulated this experienced and skilled Ultimate was tough as the hell and is a good achievement that they beat him even more than the previous Ultimates defeated.
Okuwagamon was a hell of opponent and will be remembered as a complete badass. That made our Kamen Rider Teammate get his midseason transformation.
Okuwagamon was a hell of opponent and will be remembered as a complete badass. That made our Kamen Rider Teammate get his midseason transformation.
drexal15
Proud GM
Aye, it's pretty fortunate indeed.
=== Now let's what's winning right now.
So Beat is now easily Elite Bellator tier, right?
Geez that's a strong bug!
So this is basically what a mid tier Ultimate species peaks at if a particular mon doesn't have the potential to reach Mega? So a little bit weaker than what Repulsa would have capped out at had she not obtained a Spirit?
I am a bit surprised though that he was that strong as a Champion but only became a mid tier Ultimate. I guess he just didn't have the right personality for a higher tier form or something?
If being peak Champion was enough to reach Mega there would be a lot more of them running around. Most mon evidently don't have that special something that allows them to go all the way.
drexal15
Proud GM
Yes. Expect a promotion in his future.
Who can also ambush things really well. It was part of the reason why he went Okuwamon rather than JewelBeemon, mentality.
JewelBeemon is a Warrior first. Like Beat. This Stingmon was an assassin first.
Yep and tougher than she'd have ever been. But Repulsa as a soft capped LadyDevimon would have been a bit stronger in the end thanks to her species expanded caps.
You're half right. Okuwamon isn't a mediocre evolution by any means. In fact that's what Astamon's Beat evolved to before hitting Mega.
So, this is a thing. And Pit is now using Sandiramon's spear. Potential new Digivolution for him?
I was assuming upper mid tier, along the lines of something like MetalGreymon. One step down from stuff like LadyDevimon and one step above stuff like WereGarurumon.
High tier in terms of what a normal mon is likely to run into during their lifetime, but not a true heavyweight in the grand scheme of things.
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Three main factors I can see:
Megas tend to be quite divergent from the previous stage, and we also know higher evolutions have strong influences on personality. Those who have the personality for a Mega might well have hell getting to Ultimate for the same reasons(this is a good thing, see point 2). Those who run around loading digimon in a rampage run into point 3.
Secondly, Mega stat requirements are absurd. Like, beyond most digimons hardcaps. They have to essentially load massive amounts of data at one shot to hit the target from their hardcap(most likely this is from loading a capped Ultimate who's on track to Mega themselves) with the associated risks of outright exploding...OR, they are those digimon with immense difficulty evolving at Rookie and Champion levels, thus expanding their Talent when they do evolve, in exchange for a long period of vulnerability and visibility.
Third, a lot of Megas are Titles. First come first serve, if the mantle is taken it doesn't matter how well you fit the requirements if theres one already. The Demon Lords are probably one of those. Those who go on a loading rampage probably very swiftly qualify for an unclaimed Demon Lord seat...and the rest are stuck.
[X] The sun is setting. Go check on Baromon's temple on case the Gloaming are trying anything else… plus you're curious about what Baromon actually looks like.
I won't put it past the Gloaming OR the Host to arrange a Plan B kidnapping.
I won't put it past the Gloaming OR the Host to arrange a Plan B kidnapping.
drexal15
Proud GM
Sadly no. Their data really isn't compatible.
That's... roughly correct.
I like that you've put a lot of thought into this. And you certainly hit several broad strokes of my interpretation of a digital world. Though there are some things I have to correct or clarify.
Just going on a loading rampage is less likely to get one to mega simply because it requires a ton of training to boost your talents (and thus natural caps) further. If Beat for instance had gotten all his power through loading, he'd be significantly weaker right now.
In universe Malkimon's champion *The Gladiator* was noted to be considered ridiculous/crazy/wasteful for refusing to load anymon. But it was for that very reason that he ended up being so notable.
As for titles, not exactly. Demon Lords enjoy a nice boost because of their sin, but that doesn't lock other mon from hitting that same species. It would just lower the power of the original and the newbie when the latter hits Mega. There's a highlander "there can only be one" dynamic there as Demon Lords despise sharing power.
There can also theoretically be multiple members of a Royal Knight species without conflict. But I've twisted things so Yggy can power one up to be THE (Insert Example such as Gallantmon here)
Now with all this said, there are wild mega digimon out there, more than one might think too. But for them finding enough fuel is very tough, and Bulwark tends to hunt any that get too destructive.
Those typically tend to be 'normal' Megas though, right? Things that aren't part of any special group and aren't particularly strong by Mega standards.
Things that are just the basic Mega evolution of common species.
drexal15
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Knight-Radiant
Recovering Rageaholic
[x] With the Stealth Squad defeated the danger should be past. Inform Galgomon and Wendimon of what transpired and ask if the latter knew anything about the attacks.