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To Establish Peace - A Romance of the Three Kingdoms Quest

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HastyGaming said:
Due to the way the battle has been set up, and the mechanical nature of a quest (and especially rolls) I don't think will play out like that. More likely each flank will be rolling against its opposite and your deployment leaves the center undermanned and at risk.

Except that's not at all what happened, and isn't even the reason we left him behind. This wasn't a mistake we made, we knew he was going to be upset but did it anyway because the decisions we make aren't just based on what our Retainers want. He wanted to be part of the campaign immediately, we needed him to be at the Estate for the first month of spring before he joined us and ultimately we're the Lord and sometimes we need our retainers to do things they'd rather not to achieve a larger objective.

We can apologise for the necessity of it, say we're sorry he had to miss the first month of the campaign. But we shouldn't be apologising for doing it, because it was done for an important reason.

@Gaz how long are you planning to leave the vote open?
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Wouldn't that cause the same problems we had last we did a social action? Negative points.

This is a private apology to reconcile with our friend.

Your blunt honesty would just make things worse and probably make Shu come off as a dick. We really should have had him in this fight but be was left behind.
 


I didn't realize we had 5 years to deal with the rebellion. If we distinguish ourselves and become friends with Cao Cao do you think we can become nominated as leader for the coalition? It's a long shot. At least we can March with Cao Cao when the time comes and has a solid ally.
 
Ancient Scholar said:


I didn't realize we had 5 years to deal with the rebellion. If we distinguish ourselves and become friends with Cao Cao do you think we can become nominated as leader for the coalition? It's a long shot. At least we can March with Cao Cao when the time comes and has a solid ally.
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There is a possibility that the coalition might not even happen though or someone else takes over the capital before Dong.
 
Ancient Scholar said:


I didn't realize we had 5 years to deal with the rebellion. If we distinguish ourselves and become friends with Cao Cao do you think we can become nominated as leader for the coalition? It's a long shot. At least we can March with Cao Cao when the time comes and has a solid ally.
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I have never heard Cao Cao pronounced the way it is in that video. It's...pretty bad, haha.

And yeah assuming no butterflies, you have about 5 years until The Gang Purges The Eunuchs. Expect timeskips.
 
There will be a period where the "Lords", "Commanders", and "Exceptional Heroes" are called to the capital for rank up / given posts. The time when He Jin still controls the imperial army and starting to bloat in arrogance. Our performance now and networking then will likely direct the way things happen, at least a little bit. For example preventing He Jin getting gutted (tall order i know) or help getting Ding Yuan & Lü Bu higher posts to separate them before Dong visits the capital. We are not averse to giving out bribes are we?
 
copypastaanon said:
here's a thought, what if instead of Dong, Yuan Shao siezes power, like he originally tried to?
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The Han is going to be in such a brittle state that SOMEONE is going to take power, even if Dong Zhuo is absent. Whether it be one of the Yuans or someone else seizing the opportunity, once Emperor Ling dies everything is gonna go to shit very quickly.
 
Hypothetically If we followed the OTL (I think too many butterflies already happened at this point) and worked for the Dong during the coalition that would be very good opportunity to kill the competition. Remember that one time that Cao Cao pursued Lu Bu?
 
Profectus said:
Hypothetically If we followed the OTL (I think too many butterflies already happened at this point) and worked for the Dong during the coalition that would be very good opportunity to kill the competition. Remember that one time that Cao Cao pursued Lu Bu?
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We don´t even need that, the moment we enter the Yellow Turban Rebellion the plot armor of all major characters is gone. This means anyone can simply die thorugh a dice throw.
 
Profectus said:
-[X] [Ranged] All archer units in the centre, crossbows on the left. Archer units to be placed in front of the Infantry and fire freely until the enemy begins to engage, at which point they are to retreat behind the infantry and continue to fire over them. Crossbows to be placed behind the (Left) Infantry.
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Profectus, I want to suggest you consider changing this and putting the archers behind the infantry right at the beginning.

If we put the Archers at the front they will be targeted by the enemy archers which isn't something we want since our Archers don't have shields and only a few are armoured. Our Infantry, on the other hand, all have shields and so should take considerably less damage from the enemy archers. On the other hand, the majority of their infantry don't have shields so as long as both sets of archers are firing at infantry we come out the winner.

Slightly less accuracy is worth it to take fewer casualties, and since we're outnumbered here we want to minimise our casualties as much as possible.
 
HastyGaming said:
Profectus, I want to suggest you consider changing this and putting the archers behind the infantry right at the beginning.

If we put the Archers at the front they will be targeted by the enemy archers which isn't something we want since our Archers don't have shields and only a few are armoured. Our Infantry, on the other hand, all have shields and so should take considerably less damage from the enemy archers. On the other hand, the majority of their infantry don't have shields so as long as both sets of archers are firing at infantry we come out the winner.

Slightly less accuracy is worth it to take fewer casualties, and since we're outnumbered here we want to minimise our casualties as much as possible.
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Isn't part of the plan to force them to charge at us by using our archers? They won't be able to do that without getting into shooting range.
 
Profectus said:
Isn't part of the plan to force them to charge at us by using our archers? They won't be able to do that without getting into shooting range.
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They're still in range from behind our infantry according to one of the default options, they just have a little less accuracy (not a big issue against 2000+ enemy) and they're less likely to be targeted themselves by the enemy archers.
 
Profectus said:
Our archers can shoot over 500 meters? That's impressive. But fine whatever
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No, unfortunately not. The idea to put them in front of the Infantry to fire at the enemy until they charged was something suggested when Gaz had said we were 130m away from the enemy. If we wanted to do it now - after Gaz has said that was a mistake and we're 500m away - we'd have to place the archers so far in front of the Infantry and so close to the enemy they'd never make it back before the enemy cavalry caught them. Or we'd have to move much closer to the enemy and give up the current high ground we've got in which case we probably wouldn't have time to reform our lines after they retreated behind the Infantry.

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[X] Plan Superior Range

It could be better, more detailed etc, but I'd rather take it and rely on Liang Shu's common sense for troop distribution than a plan that specifically has problems with its troop distribution.
 
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