Incredibly noticeable, leaving a shitton of obsidian statues on a melted sept.

I think we can do this stealthly:
-> Viserys uses his bracers for Stilled Silent BW: Major Creation and Symbol of Sleep.
--> Pick a tedious moment of the sermon, where everyone is seated. Leave the Erynes immune to the Symbol, as per the Symbol rules.
-> Malarys Greater Dispels, if it worked Quickened Boneshattrk if not Vee Alters Fortune, and if it still fails DMM Quickened Greater Dispel.
-> Vee also Greater Dispels if it doesn't work still.
-> Viserys uses Celerity as soon as the binding is undone for a Potent Mythic Turtling.

So we can even continue the sermon as a disguised septon after we interrogate it, as the Symbol lasts a long damn time.
I prefer it, but it's not in write up form.
 
[X]Visery uses his bracers for Stilled Silent BW: Major Creation and Symbol of Sleep.
-[X]Pick a tedious moment of the sermon, where everyone is seated. Leave the Erynes immune to the Symbol, as per the Symbol rules.
-[X] Malarys Casts anti magic field on Ser Richard, who moves into melee.
-[X] Vee holds an action to greater dispel any attempt by it to escape.
-[X] Viserys moves into melee with dark sister to help Her Richard.
-[X] If anyone didn't fall asleep clean up with mass modify memory.


Goldfishes plan seems perfectly functional, but I find myself still worried about the cheeky teleport.

never mind, malarys and vee dont have AMF, only we can cast it.
 
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Incredibly noticeable, leaving a shitton of obsidian statues on a melted sept.

I think we can do this stealthly:
-> Viserys uses his bracers for Stilled Silent BW: Major Creation and Symbol of Sleep.
--> Pick a tedious moment of the sermon, where everyone is seated. Leave the Erynes immune to the Symbol, as per the Symbol rules.
-> Malarys Greater Dispels, if it worked Quickened Boneshattrk if not Vee Alters Fortune, and if it still fails DMM Quickened Greater Dispel.
-> Vee also Greater Dispels if it doesn't work still.
-> Viserys uses Celerity as soon as the binding is undone for a Potent Mythic Turtling.

So we can even continue the sermon as a disguised septon after we interrogate it, as the Symbol lasts a long damn time.

If people who know the Abishai as the septon come up and talk to us while were disguised after the sermon, you'll need to be ready for that.
 
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[X]Visery uses his bracers for Stilled Silent BW: Major Creation and Symbol of Sleep.
-[X]Pick a tedious moment of the sermon, where everyone is seated. Leave the Erynes immune to the Symbol, as per the Symbol rules.
-[X] Malarys Casts anti magic field on Ser Richard, who moves into melee.
-[X] Vee holds an action to greater dispel any attempt by it to escape.
-[X] Viserys moves into melee with dark sister to help Her Richard.
-[X] If anyone didn't fall asleep clean up with mass modify memory.

Goldfishes plan seems perfectly functional, but I find myself still worried about the cheeky teleport.
I've added a Dimensional Anchor on the Abishai. Not sure if it will work, though, with the binding in place.

Maybe a Wild Arcana'd Antimagic Ray instead, @TotallyNotEvil?
 
So now we have done a 180 on why we do stuff but still similar actions. Before we would want to save cultist so we could sacrifice them now we want to save their souls. I think we should just kill them we should not go out of our way to save them. When it could result in harm to us and our friends. Did that stupid dream sequence make us good all of a sudden.

No, what was decided was to spare and reform cultists when posibile. Nothing so silly as placing their lives above those of ordinary civilians much less companions and friends.
 
Maybe a Wild Arcana'd Antimagic Ray instead, @TotallyNotEvil?
Oh, that's nice. But where did you get Dim Anchor? Neither Malarys or Vee have it. Bloodwish?

Maybe:

[X] Plan Easy Does It
-[X] Viserys
--[X] Uses bracers for a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Major Creation for a bit of phosphorus.
--[X] Uses Bracers again for a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Symbol of Sleep. Set it so the Erynies aren't affected, and some trigger he can use as a free action, such as scuffing the symbol with his foot.
--[X] Discreetly uses his item to heal the charisma damage.
--[X] Assay SR on the Abishai, Triggers the Symbol and Wild Arcana a Potent (+2 CL/DC) Antimagic Ray on the Abishai and casts Arcane Spellsurge.
--[X] Stays at the ready with Mythic Initiative + Belt of Battle and Celerity if something unexpected happens, especially if he makes his save.
-[X] Vee & Malarys
--[X] When Viserys signals he is ready, they both Greater Dispel the Abishai as an opener (before Viserys uses AMR). Be ready to Alter Fortune if need be, such as in case of the AMR failing. Malarys can use a Quickened Boneshatter, too.
-[X] Ser Richard and the Furies
--[X] Charge and subdue it
-[X] Pick a monotonous bit of the sermon to act, at least a point where everyone is seated.
 
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Why not use AMF?

No save, no SR, we and ser richard can definitely take it in melee and Vee and Malarys can probably handle the crowd lone enough for us to mindwipe them.
Proximity is the biggest issue. We would need to get within 10 feet of the Abishai for that to work.

@DragonParadox Is that possible as part of a normal service in the Sept? Does the Septon approach the audience, or vice versa?
 
Oh, that's nice. But where did you get Dim Anchor? Neither Malarys or Vee have it. Bloodwish?

Maybe:

[X] Plan Easy Does It
-[X] Viserys
--[X] Uses bracers for a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Major Creation for a bit of phosphorus.
--[X] Uses Bracers again for a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Symbol of Sleep. Set it so the Erynies aren't affected, and some trigger he can use as a free action, such as scuffing the symbol with his foot.
--[X] Discreetly uses his item to heal the charisma damage.
--[X] Assay SR on the Abishai, Triggers the Symbol and Wild Arcana a Potent (+2 CL/DC) Antimagic Ray on the Abishai and casts Arcane Spellsurge.
--[X] Stays at the ready with Mythic Initiative + Belt of Battle and Celerity if something unexpected happens, especially if he makes his save.
-[X] Vee & Malarys
--[X] When Viserys signals he is ready, they both Greater Dispel the Abishai as an opener (before Viserys uses AMR). Be ready to Alter Fortune if need be, such as in case of the AMR failing. Malarys can use a Quickened Boneshatter, too.
-[X] Ser Richard and the Furies
--[X] Charge and subdue it
-[X] Pick a monotonous bit of the sermon to act, at least a point where everyone is seated.
Why Blood Wish for he Symbol? Could just use Wild Arcana instead. More effective that way, too.

We want to capture it.

[X] TotallyNotEvil
 
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Ah damn, AMR has the problem of him being able to deflect it.

However, I got an idea that I think will finally work: Imbue an Invisible Varys with AMF before trigering the Symbol, and have her get close to it.

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[X] Plan Easy Does It
-[X] Viserys
--[X] Uses bracers for a Silent Stilled Ancestral Awakening: Still Spell
--[X] Use bracers for a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Major Creation for a bit of phosphorus.
--[X] Cast a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Symbol of Sleep. Set it so the Erynies aren't affected (everyone else is too strong), and some trigger he can use as a free action, such as scuffing the symbol with his foot.
--[X] Make Varys invisible, and have her hold onto an AMF.
--[X] Discreetly uses his item to heal the charisma damage.
--[X] Triggers the Symbol and change into LHD and move to subdue the Abishai.
-[x] Malarys and Vee
--[x] If Viserys noticed any other protections, they Greater Dispel it just before Varys triggers the AMF. Otherwise, just be ready to react to something unexpected, like catching straglers. Don't forget Beads of Karma. Malarys also triggers his Sign spell.
-[X] Ser Richard and the Furies
--[X] Charge and subdue it
-[X] Pick a monotonous bit of the sermon to act, at least a point where everyone is seated.
-[x] Varys just has to stay within 10 ft of it, should be easy as she can fly very fast, and hover.

What about this?

Malarys and Vee are a bit tricky as the plan involves an AMF.
 
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[X] TotallyNotEvil

Surprise Varys... nobody expects the Familiar Inquisition.
 
[X] Plan Easy Does It
-[X] Viserys
--[X] Uses bracers for a Silent Stilled Ancestral Awakening: Still Spell
--[X] Use bracers for a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Major Creation for a bit of phosphorus.
--[X] Cast a Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Symbol of Sleep. Set it so the Erynies aren't affected (everyone else is too strong), and some trigger he can use as a free action, such as scuffing the symbol with his foot.
--[X] Make Varys invisible, and have her hold onto an AMF.
--[X] Discreetly uses his item to heal the charisma damage.
--[X] Triggers the Symbol and change into LHD and move to subdue the Abishai.
-[x] Malarys and Vee
--[x] If Viserys noticed any other protections, they Greater Dispel it just before Varys triggers the AMF.
-[X] Ser Richard and the Furies
--[X] Charge and subdue it
-[X] Pick a monotonous bit of the sermon to act, at least a point where everyone is seated.

What about this?

Malarys and Vee are a bit tricky as the plan involves an AMF.
Use Wild Arcana instead of Blood Wish for the Symbol.

What about using Chain Spell and a Wild Arcana'd Deep Slumber spell?

Any damage inflicted on it outside the AMF will just be spread to the cultists.

Malarys can use Greater Command or Chained Hold Monster on the cultists.

EDIT: Also, Vee and Malarys should use their Beads of Karma.
 
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Use Wild Arcana instead of Blood Wish for the Symbol.
No can do, too long of a casting time.
What about using Chain Spell and a Wild Arcana'd Deep Slumber spell?
Chaining what? You can't chain a Deep Slumber.

Symbol is fantastic, it targets everything with less than 11 HD in 60 ft, they can't be woken up by nonmagical means and lasts forever.
Malarys can use Greater Command or Chained Hold Monster on the cultists.
Hm, maybe.

If the Abishai has wards, dispel those, if not, Chain Hold Monster everyone who resists the Symbol?
 
Hold personing the people who make their saving throw (if there are any) would be good yes. I'm just more concerned about the abishai.

Any damage inflicted on it outside the AMF will just be spread to the cultists.
I believe the plan calls for Varys to move in first?

Or both of them at the same time at least.
 
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