A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

chryssalideater · May 3, 2019

zxzx24 said:
I don't think I've ever meaningfully contributed something to the quest.

@egoo @Duesal putting me on ignore is probably the right decision honestly. Sorry.

@Algalon could I get a thread ban too? I appear to mostly be spewing vitriol and driving people off and I'm just tired of ot on both ends.

While I won't deny that your conduct and mine (to a hopefully lesser extent) has not been ideal, you have also been busting your ass on those archon character sheets for Yrael. It wouldn't be fair on you to ignore that work either.

The crazy demon · May 3, 2019

Well this is a doozy.

Maybe wait until the service is over and people start leaving? Hopefully most do leave soonish and the effect is limited in range.

Can always Alter Shape into an Angel and whack it over the head with the good book

Goldfish · May 3, 2019

Preliminary plan.

[X] Plan Turtle Plus
-[X] Viserys subtlety casts, using his Bracers to Still spells as necessary, Ancestral Awakening to learn the Chain Spell Metamagic feat, Assay Spell Resistance, and then Arcane Spellsurge. When he is ready, he gives the signal to attack:
--[X] Viserys waits for Malarys to hit the Abishai with Dispel, Blood Wishes a Dimensional Anchor spell on it as a Swift Action, then uses Wild Arcana to target it and every cultist within range with a Chained Feeblemind spell.
-[X] Malarys activates his Bead of Karma while Viserys prepares. He uses his Sign buff to set his Initiative to 22 then casts a Quickened Targeted Dispel Dispel Magic at the Abishai. If Viserys' attempt to Feeblemind it doesn't succeed, he uses a Chained Sacramental Seal targeting the Abishai and all nearby cultists.
-[X] Vee activates her Bead of Karma while Viserys prepares. She uses Hallucinogenic Smoke to subdue the cultists once the attack begins. If necessary, she uses Alter Fortune to aid Viserys.
-[X] Richard activates his armor's Holy Aura power and prepares to subdue cultists alongside the Erinyes.

DragonParadox · May 3, 2019

TotallyNotEvil said:
That's the idea.

@DragonParadox alternatively, could we Bloodwish a Symbol of Sleep, assuming we have the materials with us?

Yes, however you are not currently carrying phosphorus. You would have to get your hands on it somehow.

lockingbane · May 3, 2019

Um, is there any reason we cant magically knock the cultists out, turtle the demon, and sort out the curse without them getting in the way.

chryssalideater · May 3, 2019

Goldfish said:
Preliminary plan.

[X] Plan Turtle Plus
-[X] Viserys subtlety casts Ancestral Awakening to learn the Chain Spell Metamagic feat, Assay Spell Resistance, and then Arcane Spellsurge. When he is ready, he gives the signal to attack:
--[X] Viserys waits for Malarys to hit the Abishai with Dispel, then targets it and every cultist within range with a Chained Mythic Baleful Polymorph spell. If the Abishai resists, he targets it with another Mythic Baleful Polymorph as a Swift Action.
-[X] Malarys activates his Bead of Karma while Viserys prepares. He uses his Sign buff to set his Initiative to 22 then casts a Quickened Targeted Dispel Dispel Magic at the Abishai. If Viserys' attempt to Polymorph it doesn't succeed, he uses a Chained Sacramental Seal targeting the Abishai and all nearby cultists.
-[X] Vee uses Hallucinogenic Smoke to subdue the cultists.
-[X] Richard activates his armor's Holy Aura power and prepares to subdue cultists alongside the Erinyes.

Oh. Right. I forgot we could do that.

DragonParadox · May 3, 2019

lockingbane said:
Um, is there any reason we cant magically knock the cultists out, turtle the demon, and sort out the curse without them getting in the way.

Because if you knock them out they are still alive and thus still serving as ablative shielding.

lockingbane · May 3, 2019

DragonParadox said:
Because if you knock them out they are still alive and thus still serving as ablative shielding.

Yes, but if we turtle the demon as well it won't matter as the one using the shield would be a turtle and the shieldees would be asleep. Thus we would have time to sort out the curse.

Goldfish · May 3, 2019

zxzx24 said:
I don't think I've ever meaningfully contributed something to the quest.

@egoo @Duesal putting me on ignore is probably the right decision honestly. Sorry.

@Algalon could I get a thread ban too? I appear to mostly be spewing vitriol and driving people off and I'm just tired of ot on both ends.

Seriously, dude, that is just unnecessary.

If you have an issue, don't post. Don't ask to be thread banned.

It's not hard to keep snide and derogatory comments to yourself.

TotallyNotEvil · May 3, 2019

Goldfish said:
Preliminary plan.

[X] Plan Turtle Plus
-[X] Viserys subtlety casts Ancestral Awakening to learn the Chain Spell Metamagic feat, Assay Spell Resistance, and then Arcane Spellsurge. When he is ready, he gives the signal to attack:
--[X] Viserys waits for Malarys to hit the Abishai with Dispel, then targets it and every cultist within range with a Chained Mythic Baleful Polymorph spell. If the Abishai resists, he targets it with another Mythic Baleful Polymorph as a Swift Action.
-[X] Malarys activates his Bead of Karma while Viserys prepares. He uses his Sign buff to set his Initiative to 22 then casts a Quickened Targeted Dispel Dispel Magic at the Abishai. If Viserys' attempt to Polymorph it doesn't succeed, he uses a Chained Sacramental Seal targeting the Abishai and all nearby cultists.
-[X] Vee activates her Bead of Karma while Viserys prepares. She uses Hallucinogenic Smoke to subdue the cultists once the attack begins.
-[X] Richard activates his armor's Holy Aura power and prepares to subdue cultists alongside the Erinyes.

Some of that will be noticeable, I think.

Maybe use the bracers for Stilled Ancestral awakening to learn Silent spell, then bracers and Silent Bloodwish for Major Creation for a bit of phosphorus, then Bloodwish Symbol of Sleep to knock out everyone in the room? Might even get the Abishai, if he isn't too advanced.

But we'd be free to AMF Ser Richard and deal with it, then.

Or Wild Arcane Hiss of Sleep + Quickened Bloodwish for Deep Slumber?

TotallyNotEvil · May 3, 2019

Otoh, if the thing can be dispelled, that makes things easier for us.

But I'd rather the entire sept suddenly fall asleep, than everyone become turtles for a while.

zxzx24 · May 3, 2019

Goldfish said:
Seriously, dude, that is just unnecessary.

If you have an issue, don't post. Don't ask to be thread banned.

It's not hard to keep snide and derogatory comments to yourself.

I know, and if it seems like I've been acting out a lot more lately it's because I am.

I haven't found out why, but I have been getting extremely emotional for the past month or two and it's been... Bad.

Goldfish · May 3, 2019

TotallyNotEvil said:
Some of that will be noticeable, I think.

Maybe use the bracers for Stilled Ancestral awakening to learn Silent spell, then bracers and Silent Bloodwish for Major Creation for a bit of phosphorus, then Bloodwish Symbol of Sleep to knock out everyone in the room? Might even get the Abishai, if he isn't too advanced.

But we'd be free to AMF Ser Richard and deal with it, then.

All of Viserys' spells are automatically Silent now. I'll add in using his Bracers.

DragonParadox · May 3, 2019

zxzx24 said:
I don't think I've ever meaningfully contributed something to the quest.

@egoo @Duesal putting me on ignore is probably the right decision honestly. Sorry.

@Algalon could I get a thread ban too? I appear to mostly be spewing vitriol and driving people off and I'm just tired of ot on both ends.

Yes you have. I don't want to stop you from doing what you feel you need to do, but I want to say that I would be sorry to know you are gone if it comes to it.

tarrangar · May 3, 2019

zxzx24 said:
I don't think I've ever meaningfully contributed something to the quest.

@egoo @Duesal putting me on ignore is probably the right decision honestly. Sorry.

@Algalon could I get a thread ban too? I appear to mostly be spewing vitriol and driving people off and I'm just tired of ot on both ends.

I certainly enjoy the fact you are around this thread, I don't think anyone need to threadban themselves, maybe take a week or so away from the thread to distance themselves a little, but we don't need to lose any players.

zxzx24 · May 3, 2019

Mass Modify Memory – d20PFSRD

For what it's worth this also exists. (Bloodwishable I believe?)

Putting everyone to sleep makes things easier but we don't need to get all of them.

I'm also concerned about the thing escaping.

Can we stop it from teleporting at immediate speed?

TotallyNotEvil · May 3, 2019

Goldfish said:
All of Viserys' spells are automatically Silent now. I'll add in using his Bracers.

Ah, from then Permanencied stuff?

I think I'd rather -> Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Major Creation -> Silent Stilled Bloodwish: Symbol of Sleep, and when everyone drops Malarys and Vee dispel as Ser Richard and Erynies charge, we can make the Erynies immune to the Symbol as part of inscribing it.

Just need a moment everyone everyone is seated for it.

We could even disguise ourselves as the Abishai and continue the sermon, actually. The symbol is very long lasting.

Artemis1992 · May 3, 2019

@Goldfish

Potent: Any spell you cast as a mythic spell can also be cast in a potent form that is harder to resist. By expending one additional use of mythic power, you increase the spell's save DC by 2 and gain a +2 bonus on your caster level check to overcome spell resistance.

Propably worth it.

[X] Goldfish

T_of_A · May 3, 2019

@Goldfish, you are using a lot of spell slots. How about simply using a Merciful Shadow of the Doom ?

fan550 · May 3, 2019

So now we have done a 180 on why we do stuff but still similar actions. Before we would want to save cultist so we could sacrifice them now we want to save their souls. I think we should just kill them we should not go out of our way to save them. When it could result in harm to us and our friends. Did that stupid dream sequence make us good all of a sudden.

Takesis · May 3, 2019

[X] Goldfish

One Autumn Leaf · May 3, 2019

fan550 said:
So now we have done a 180 on why we do stuff but still similar actions. Before we would want to save cultist so we could sacrifice them now we want to save their souls. I think we should just kill them we should not go out of our way to save them. When it could result in harm to us and our friends. Did that stupid dream sequence make us good all of a sudden.

Okay with these cultists in particular they have been deceived into thinking that this is a church of the Smith and that Tiamat is the Smith's true name. All in all it is quite brilliant but we would prefer not to kill them as many of them are only guilty of ignorance and being deceived.

Trickster314 · May 3, 2019

[X] Goldfish

TotallyNotEvil · May 3, 2019

TalonofAnathrax said:
@Goldfish, you are using a lot of spell slots. How about simply using a Merciful Shadow of the Doom ?

Incredibly noticeable, leaving a shitton of obsidian statues on a melted sept.

I think we can do this stealthly:
-> Viserys uses his bracers for Stilled Silent BW: Major Creation and Symbol of Sleep.
--> Pick a tedious moment of the sermon, where everyone is seated. Leave the Erynes immune to the Symbol, as per the Symbol rules.
-> Malarys Greater Dispels, if it worked Quickened Boneshattrk if not Vee Alters Fortune, and if it still fails DMM Quickened Greater Dispel.
-> Vee also Greater Dispels if it doesn't work still.
-> Viserys uses Celerity as soon as the binding is undone for a Potent Mythic Turtling.

So we can even continue the sermon as a disguised septon after we interrogate it, as the Symbol lasts a long damn time.

TotallyNotEvil · May 3, 2019

@Goldfish turtling everyone will make it glaringly obvious who was here.

No comments on the above plan?

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