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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Duesal said:
I think it's got to do with their culture.

Mind Flayers believe that the Elder Brain is actually a collective hive mind of all former Mind Flayers, rather than being the thing that dominates and controls all of them. This is why they try to rush their brains to it after they die, and if it's too late and rot has set in the entire thing needs to be thrown out. It's a practice that the entire culture revolves around.

Starting to resurrect Mind Flayers -- even if the Elder Brain could given that it's a divine spell -- would mess with that image.

[X] Goldfish
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Also the Elder Brain wants those lesser brains.
Knowledge and power.
 
@Goldfish, in interest of having a more substantial update, can you add this back to the end of your vote?

-[] Viserys casts Divine Insight, Grand Destiny using Greater Shadow Enchantment, Greater Arcane Vision, and Blood Wishes a Healer's Vision spell, then uses a charge from his ring to gain a +2 Dispelling bonus and Wild Arcana to cast a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic spell on Jeyne (total Dispelling bonus of +22, further modified by his Eldritch Breach Mythic power). He looks for anything out of the ordinary, including hidden magic that resisted his Dispelling, as well as unusual biological alterations or additions, using Divine Insight and Grand Destiny charges to brute Force his Heal check. Repeat this procedure on Roger.

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-[] If nothing alarming is detected, proceed to test Jeyne's power and what abilities she has.
 
Duesal said:
@Goldfish, in interest of having a more substantial update, can you add this back to the end of your vote?

-[] Viserys casts Divine Insight, Grand Destiny using Greater Shadow Enchantment, Greater Arcane Vision, and Blood Wishes a Healer's Vision spell, then uses a charge from his ring to gain a +2 Dispelling bonus and Wild Arcana to cast a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic spell on Jeyne (total Dispelling bonus of +22, further modified by his Eldritch Breach Mythic power). He looks for anything out of the ordinary, including hidden magic that resisted his Dispelling, as well as unusual biological alterations or additions, using Divine Insight and Grand Destiny charges to brute Force his Heal check. Repeat this procedure on Roger.

Alongside this?

-[] If nothing alarming is detected, proceed to test Jeyne's power and what abilities she has.
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I say we check with Yss first. We need divine grade divination to get into the Elder Brain schemes
 
[X] Goldfish

@Goldfish, remember, that worst coming to worse, we have the magical spring of Merling King on Toad Isle, which will likely either cleanse them, or count them as sacrifices and dissolve them.

Win-win, no?
:V
 
Team Weird vs Team Red?
Well then. I like Teana, but narratively I'd prefer if Melisandre won. Having her not lose immediately and crush otherwise strong and independent spellcasters like Wylla would cement her as a real power, IMO.

May the dice gods be with me !
 
Duesal said:
@Goldfish, in interest of having a more substantial update, can you add this back to the end of your vote?

-[] Viserys casts Divine Insight, Grand Destiny using Greater Shadow Enchantment, Greater Arcane Vision, and Blood Wishes a Healer's Vision spell, then uses a charge from his ring to gain a +2 Dispelling bonus and Wild Arcana to cast a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic spell on Jeyne (total Dispelling bonus of +22, further modified by his Eldritch Breach Mythic power). He looks for anything out of the ordinary, including hidden magic that resisted his Dispelling, as well as unusual biological alterations or additions, using Divine Insight and Grand Destiny charges to brute Force his Heal check. Repeat this procedure on Roger.

Alongside this?

-[] If nothing alarming is detected, proceed to test Jeyne's power and what abilities she has.
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Plan updated.
Tomcost said:
I say we check with Yss first. We need divine grade divination to get into the Elder Brain schemes
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Yss is still napping off his last meal.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Team Weird vs Team Red?
Well then. I like Teana, but narratively I'd prefer if Melisandre won. Having her not lose immediately and crush otherwise strong and independent spellcasters like Wylla would cement her as a real power, IMO.

May the dice gods be with me !
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Team Dragon is Amy.

Team Red is red.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Team Weird vs Team Red?
Well then. I like Teana, but narratively I'd prefer if Melisandre won. Having her not lose immediately and crush otherwise strong and independent spellcasters like Wylla would cement her as a real power, IMO.

May the dice gods be with me !
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Melisandre might be strong, but Team Weird isn't lacking power by any means. Even if they lose, which is not a foregone conclusion, I'm expecting a good showing from them.
 
@Goldfish, this fight will probably mostly be an exchange of invisible save-or-dies. Hopefully DP will fluff things to make them visual (finger of death = cool shadowy effect) and the fight will involve some clever visuals or tactics.

But a fight that goes:
Teana: Save-or-lose or Dispel magic
Wylla: save-or-die
Wylla: Celerity, another Save-or-die
Glyra: Alter Fortune or another save-or-lose
Melisandre: fails a save. Her weak allies then get pasted.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
@Goldfish, this fight will probably mostly be an exchange of invisible save-or-dies. Hopefully DP will fluff things to make them visual (finger of death = cool shadowy effect) and the fight will involve some clever visuals or tactics.
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I actually kind of like the idea of two wizards staring at each other, nothing happening, and then in a sudden death something esoteric strikes one down, the other the winner of some metaphysical game of chicken.

Probably kind of boring to watch for anyone without high Knowledge.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Apr 2, 2019 at 10:24 AM, finished with 79 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Telepathically inquire of Varys how many minds she detects within Roger and Jeyne, and whether either seems particularly alien in nature. Unless her results are alarming, continue as follows;
    -[X] Ask Jeyne and Roger to remain calm and to cooperate with us for their own safety. We will not harm them, but the Deep Ones are insidious creatures who have attempted to use subterfuge against us in the past where brute force and magical power would not suffice. We must make certain their minds and bodies have not been tampered with in some manner without their knowledge. While this is going on, Varys activates all of her magical talismans.
    -[X] Explain that we are going to place them in magical stasis for a short time while we transport them to a location where we can safely examine them without fear of Deep One interference.
    -[X] If they agree, use Blood Wish to place each of them in Smoky Confinement bottles. If they do not agree, do it anyway, targeting Jeyne first while Varys keeps Roger occupied.
    -[X] Once they are bottled, Viserys gathers Richard, Dany, Malarys, Lya, and Vee, then travels to the Snare. First Jeyne, then Roger are examined. They are divested of any magical talismans before being examined.
    --[X] He casts Divine Insight, Grand Destiny using Greater Shadow Enchantment, Greater Arcane Vision, and Blood Wishes a Healer's Vision spell, then uses a charge from his ring to gain a +2 Dispelling bonus and Wild Arcana to cast a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic spell on Jeyne (total Dispelling bonus of +22, further modified by his Eldritch Breach Mythic power). He looks for anything out of the ordinary, including hidden magic that resisted his Dispelling, as well as unusual biological alterations or additions, using Divine Insight and Grand Destiny charges to brute Force his Heal check. Vee conducts a similar exam, using buffs and imbued spells as necessary.
    --[X] Throughout the process, Varys closely monitors them Telepathically and Malarys picks through their thoughts using Brain Spider, if it is deemed safe.
    [X] [Subtle use of Magics to check for various ingrained traps and whatnot, to be determined by people who actually know how to flex access to 8th circle spells]
    -[X] While working your magic, accept Jeynes's offer to keep her calm, and ask Roger how he fits into all of this.
    -[X] Assuming everything is on the up and up, offer to take them under your care, research what happened to her, and provide them with funds and support. No strings attached beyond making sure that Jeynes is safe and sane. If they want to do more things within your Service, that can wait until they're settled in more and we've done rudimentary research on this alternative method to tell reality to sit down and shut up while the caster is working.
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