My prediction is that if the worst should happen I will suddenly become a US or British citizen for the purposes of this and many other sites.:V

Making laws about the internet is the easy part, enforcing them not so much.
The funny thing is though, neither your citizenship, the legal locale of the site, nor the legal locale of the rights holder matter.

An American company could sue a South African website over the content posted by a Japanese user in a European court.

This is probably the saddest example of the world growing closer together that I have ever written....
 
I think some regulation is definitely necessary, though I don't know much about the specific provisions the EU enacted. But I'm very much in favor of clamping down on hate sites like 4 and 8Chan, given how they serve as recruitment/radicalization support for right-wing terrorism.

They're internet dive bars, some people talk shit, some of them are serious, some of them are idiots and think the others are serious.

*Facebook and Google Hangouts has been a "breeding ground" because they facilitate communication, anywhere and anything that does that and allows people to talk freely will have some element of that bullshit.

I'd rather have free access to everything than have someone decide what I should be afraid of and what people can talk about, joke about etc

*Sites getting blasted for facilitating the distribution of a Facebook Livestream is particularly ridiculous to me.
 
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The funny thing is though, neither your citizenship, the legal locale of the site, nor the legal locale of the rights holder matter.

An American company could sue a South African website over the content posted by a Japanese user in a European court.

This is probably the saddest example of the world growing closer together that I have ever written....

Well yes but unless SV literally implodes over this any rules they might enforce will be targeted at EU citizens which is easy enough to spoof. I've been on the internet a long time now sometimes on sites that dealt in things much more obviously copyright-infringing than fanfiction and most of those sites are chugging along just fine.
 
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Well yes but unless SV literally implodes over this any laws they might enforce will be targeted at EU citizens which is easy enough to spoof. I've been on the internet a long time now sometimes on sites that dealt in things much more obviously copyright-infringing than fanfiction and most of those sites are chugging along just fine.
Obviously, but this just highlights the stunning retardation of all of this. They made a law that will damage legal site where people come together to talk with each other, while doing absolutely nothing to the thriving underbelly where you can get copyrighted material for free.

It's not even that blocking EU users will actually protect SV from litigation. It's more... hostage taking on SV's part. And yet this is what will likely happen in a futile attempt to dodge liability.
 
Obviously, but this just highlights the stunning retardation of all of this. They made a law that will damage legal site where people come together to talk with each other, while doing absolutely nothing to the thriving underbelly where you can get copyrighted material for free.

It's not even that blocking EU users will actually protect SV from litigation. It's more... hostage taking on SV's part. And yet this is what will likely happen in a futile attempt to dodge liability.

Ultimately yeah it's stupid and annoying but there are plenty of other stupid and annoying things in the world. At least this is one that can be navigated around with a minimum of fuss so I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.

Anyway back to our regularly scheduled quest. What do you guys want to do about he vote?
 
Ultimately yeah it's stupid and annoying but there are plenty of other stupid and annoying things in the world. At least this is one that can be navigated around with a minimum of fuss so I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.
We will see.
Anyway back to our regularly scheduled quest. What do you guys want to do about he vote?
[X] Don't accept the outcome of the vote.
-[X] Riot

:V
 
[X] Goldfish
Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Mar 27, 2019 at 3:21 AM, finished with 196 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Award the winners their prizes, but refrain from further offers of land until the conclusion of the Festival, after the results of the joust and team competitions have been revealed. We will have clearer idea of how many to give land, where to award it, and the size of such parcels.
    [X] Don't accept the outcome of the vote.
    -[X] Riot
 
I'm not saying we should abuse our power to make a race of feline super-spies.

I'm just saying that we totally could and that it would be totally awesome.

Advanced, Plant Imbued, Shadow Creature Cat (CR 5)
N Tiny Plant
Init +4;
Senses Darkvision 90 ft., Low-light Vision, Scent;

DEFENSE
AC 22, touch 16, flat-footed 18 (+4 Dex, +6 Natural, +2 Size)
HP 13 (2d8+4)
Fort +5, Ref +7, Will +5
Immune Plant Traits (immune to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms), paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, and stun.)
Resistance Cold 7
Fast Healing 5
DR 5/magic
SR 16

OFFENSE
Speed 45 ft.
Melee 2 claws +7 (1d2+4), bite +7 (1d3+4)
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 9th; DC +5 (WIS))
At will - Freedom of Movement (Self only)
3/day - Entangle, Magic Fang;
1/day - Shadow Jump, Tree Stride

STATISTICS
Str 7 (-2)
Dex 19 (+4)
Con 14 (+2)
Int 14 (+2)
Wis 20 (+5)
Cha 14 (+2)

Base Atk +1
Feats Stealthy, Weapon Finesse, Black Cat
Skills
Balance 2 + 4 (Dex) + 8 (Racial) = 14
Climb 2 + 4 (Dex) + 4 (Racial) = 10
Hide 2 + 2 (Stealthy) + 4 (Dex) + 8 (Size) + 8 (Racial) = 24 + 4 (Forested Terrain)
Jump 2 + 4 (Dex) + 8 (Racial) = 14
Listen 5 + 5 (Wis) = 10
Move Silently 2 + 2 (Stealthy) + 4 (Dex) + 8 (Size) + 10 (Racial) = 26 + 4 (Forested Terrain)
Spot 5 + 5 (Wis) = 10
Languages Sylvan, Common, Others

Acute Senses (Ex)
Plant-imbued creatures can instantly sense anything within 60 feet; they cannot be flanked or surprised and gain Improved Uncanny Dodge as if they possessed rogue levels equal to their Hit Dice. They can also detect invisible foes or opponents in heavy fog or other obscuring conditions allowing them to strike without any miss chance.

Woodland Stride (Ex)
Plant-imbued creatures can move through any sort of undergrowth at their full movement rate without taking any penalties or suffering any damage. Magical enchantments designed to impede movement still affect them.

Shadow Blend (Su)
In any conditions other than full daylight, a shadow creature can disappear into the shadows, giving it total concealment. Artificial illumination, even a light or continual flame spell, does not negate this ability, but a daylight spell will.

Evasion (Ex)
As the class feature of the Rogue class.
@Duesal, do we actually want to offer that armor you found for something Shadow templated?

Because I would love to make two dozen of those cats for the Inquisition next turn.
 
@Snowfire
Incredibly minor nitpick:
MithrIl=Purity=Freedom is not a big step, but you have a much simpler one, Cold Iron=Resist Fey Influence.
Why go the long way?

Cold Iron would involve trying to sunder the connection between Molly and her Mantle, and would have burned her horribly. Viserys considered it at first, he even considered use of Valyrian Steel, but both those materials are too antagonistic to create what he was aiming for. Also alloys of iron, so you know, burny burny. Going into this, it was highly unlikely that he'd be able to actually detach the Mantle without causing severe harm to its host. He has a goodly amount of the theoretical knowledge that Lya's gathered on the matter, yes, but he's never used it.

So what he went for instead was suppression. Or more correctly, empowerment of the self that the Mantle was attached to. For this, the metaphysical purity of truesilver was a perfect fit, as the point of the rings was to 'purify' the mind of the wearer from the influence of the Mantle. And then he used a base of Adamantine to ground that effect in a material that is the metaphysical equivalent of uncaring implacability.

It's a good set, really. And I think it should show that Viserys is quite capable of advanced magical theory. These weren't simple things to design.

@Snowfire, I would like the second interlude please. Not the intended about the sword, the other one. Great Stakes, I think it was called?

Noted. Thank you!


Because I have a schedule and I intend to keep to it. Therefore you don't get both :V

Michael, surreptitiously putting away his shotgun, secretly delighted: "When's the wedding?"

Molly: :???:

Molly: :o

This was actually meant to basically happen as you've suggested, and then emotional trauma and Good Parenting went through it like a nuclear freight train. You may assume that said conversation took place the next day. Especially as Molly accidentally put the ring on the finger that in America is for engagement rings :V

As it stands, Britain will leave the European Union on Friday without any kind of agreement in regards to trade, international relationships, border security or anything at all. Meanwhile, the British parliament is in open rebellion against the Prime Minister, tearing itself apart in an attempt to get anything at all in place or at least get the EU to extend the deadline.

The EU already granted us an extension. Mid May if our PM can pass her deal (she can't) or 12 April if she can't. Anything further would require us to commit to a long delay, have elections for the European Parliament, and probably kill Brexit as a concept.

That or we just revoke Article 50 at the last second. Today is really the day to watch, though. Parliament threw out the ability of the government to control what it debates for today, and is going to do a bunch of indicative votes on the matter and try to find a compromise.

Meanwhile, our esteemed (lol) PM is currently stuck in chatbot mode: "I will deliver Brexit and to do so you must vote on my deal to deliver Brexit ad infinitum."

And you know, this leaves aside how Scotland is likely to just go "Fuck all y'all we're done" in the event of No Deal and for all effects and purposes request entry to the EU as a refugee.

Yes. Really.

The degree to which this is a total fucking mess is hard to quantify. @spiritualatheist did a good job, though!
 
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Cold Iron would involve trying to sunder the connection between Molly and her Mantle, and would have burned her horribly. Viserys considered it at first, he even considered use of Valyrian Steel, but both those materials are too antagonistic to create what he was aiming for. Also alloys of iron, so you know, burny burny. Going into this, it was highly unlikely that he'd be able to actually detach the Mantle without causing severe harm to its host. He has a goodly amount of the theoretical knowledge that Lya's gathered on the matter, yes, but he's never used it.

So what he went for instead was suppression. Or more correctly, empowerment of the self that the Mantle was attached to. For this, thr metaphysical purity of truesilver was a perfect fit, as the point of the rings was to 'purify' the mind of the wearer from the influence of the Mantle. And then he used a base of Adamantine to ground that effect in a material that is the metaphysical equivalent of uncaring implacability.

It's a good set, really. And I think it should show that Viserys is quite capable of advanced magical theory. These weren't simple things to design.
Makes sense.

My stance is always it's better to do some damage while fixing things that leaving them half-done, since you can always fix that damage in turn with enough magic, but I already know you don't agree.
 
The EU already granted us an extension. Mid May if our PM can pass her deal (she can't) or 12 April if she can't. Anything further would require us to commit to a long delay, have elections for the European Parliament, and probably kill Brexit as a concept.
Ah. I was under the impression that the 12th of April extension was contingent on having some kind of compromise in the UK parliament in the pipeline.
That or we just revoke Article 50 at the last second. Today is really the day to watch, though. Parliament threw out the ability of thr government to control what it debates for today, and is going to do a bunch of indicative votes on the matter and try to find a compromise.
It's also noteworthy that quite a few members of the PMs government are in open revolution now, so basically, there is no proper UK government anymore.
Meanwhile, our esteemed (lol) PM is currently stuck in chatbot mode: "I will deliver Brexit and to do so you must vote on my deal to deliver Brexit ad infinitum."
For those who didn't follow this, she is literally letting the parliament vote on exactly the same thing over and over. It failed twice, then the attempted third vote was prevented by parliament digging out an old rule against exactly this nonsense. There was serious talks to ask the Queen to end the running parliament session prematurely after that, so that they could vote on the deal again.

Despite this, the next vote on this is scheduled for Friday. Because reasons.
And you know, this leaves aside how Scotland is likely to just go "Fuck all y'all we're done" in the event of No Deal and for all effects and purposes request entry to the EU as a refugee.

Yes. Really.
Since staying in the EU was one of the big reasons for Scotland to stay in Great Britain, I do have the feeling that this scenario is likely.

The situation with Northern Ireland is much more volatile though. If they do the backstop, leaving the area de facto in the EU to prevent a border going through the Irish Isles, Northern Ireland will likely ditch the UK and unite with the Republic of Ireland sooner or later. If they do a hard Brexit and throw up a wall there? Well...

Though I still have hopes that the City of London pulls a surprise independence and joins the EU. That would be just too stupid and funny.
 
Ah. I was under the impression that the 12th of April extension was contingent on having some kind of compromise in the UK parliament in the pipeline.

Not so, thank god. The EUC decision appears grounded in the idea that if there is a complete failure to deliver anything, they can at least try to give the UK enough time to force a snap election. Of course, given May's total inability to actually command a working majority, one of those should have happened months ago, but you know. Politics. If she was able to pass her withdrawal deal, then the UK would have until just before the EU parliamentary elections to leave. Otherwise, we have the exact amount of time required for the Fixed Term Parliament's Act to be invoked and for either a new government to be formed or a new set of elections to happen. And in both those cases, the EU has all but promised further extension, so long as we agree to stand candidates for the EU elections.

For those who didn't follow this, she is literally letting the parliament vote on exactly the same thing over and over. It failed twice, then the attempted third vote was prevented by parliament digging out an old rule against exactly this nonsense. There was serious talks to ask the Queen to end the running parliament session prematurely after that, so that they could vote on the deal again.

Despite this, the next vote on this is scheduled for Friday. Because reasons.

It's actually possible for parliament to override that rule, as technically Parliament can override anything. It's just not hugely likely to happen, unless there's a deeper purpose involved in taking a sledgehammer to the shattered remains of the Withdrawal Agreement.

Since staying in the EU was one of the big reasons for Scotland to stay in Great Britain, I do have the feeling that this scenario is likely.

The situation with Northern Ireland is much more volatile though. If they do the backstop, leaving the area de facto in the EU to prevent a border going through the Irish Isles, Northern Ireland will likely ditch the UK and unite with the Republic of Ireland sooner or later. If they do a hard Brexit and throw up a wall there? Well...

Speaking as someone who lives in Scotland, and does some polling work, it's likely to a degree but the main issue is that Scotland would require leave from Westminster to do so and it's likely that Westminster will be too busy exploding if we No Deal for anything to happen for months. We also would have to step very carefully around Spain, given the Catalan issue. But at the end of the day, yeah. We want to stay. We feel like we're being dragged out - the electoral results support that - and we're getting really sick of people south of the border fucking us all over out of some outdated and utterly backwards hallucination that can be reduced rather simply to 'MUH BRITISH SOVEREIGNTY THE EMPIRE RULES SUPREME". I am aware that this is massively exaggerating, but I'm in the type of mood where that's concerned to massively exaggerate.

Ireland is pretty much fucked in almost every example of the UK leaving, as any manner of doing so that does not involve remaining in the Custom's Union means that the Good Friday Agreement dies. For those unaware, the Good Friday Agreement is the only thing keeping the still very present sectarianism in Ireland from erupting back into the Troubles. Which is, at the end of the day, a very pithy name for a time that cost far too many their lives, and which was only really resolved through an elaborate truce. Not an actual peace. And no one sane wants to reignite the Troubles.
 
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Not so, thank god. The EUC decision appears grounded in the idea that if there is a complete failure to deliver anything, they can at least try to give the UK enough time to force a snap election. Of course, given May's total inability to actually command a working majority, one of those should have happened months ago, but you know. Politics. If she was able to pass her withdrawal deal, then the UK would have until just before the EU parliamentary elections to leave. Otherwise, we have the exact amount of time required for the Fixed Term Parliament's Act to be invoked and for either a new government to be formed or a new set of elections to happen. And in both those cases, the EU has all but promised further extension, so long as we agree to stand candidates for the EU elections.

It's actually possible for parliament to override that rule, as technically Parliament can override anything. It's just not hugely likely to happen, unless there's a deeper purpose involved in taking a sledgehammer to the shattered remains of the Withdrawal Agreement.
My personal read on the situation is that May wants to either bludgeon the opponents of the backstop into submission or get voted out of office. Basically, she is sabotaging her own government to make sure she isn't blamed for its failure.

It bears remembering that no one wanted any part in this whole mess. May was a opponent of Brexit and only took office because literally no one else wanted it and quickly resigned after the referendum to be as far away from the dumpster fire as possible.
Speaking as someone who lives in Scotland, and does some polling work, it's likely to a degree but the main issue is that Scotland would require leave from Westminster to do so and it's likely that Westminster will be too busy exploding if we No Deal for anything to happen for months. We also would have to step very carefully around Spain, given the Catalan issue. But at the end of the day, yeah. We want to stay. We feel like we're being dragged out - the electoral results support that - and we're getting really sick of people south of the border fucking us all over out of some outdated and utterly backwards hallucination that can be reduced rather simply to 'MUH BRITISH SOVEREIGNTY THE EMPIRE RULES SUPREME". I am aware that this is massively exaggerating, but I'm in the type of mood where that's concerned to massively exaggerate.
Memory might fail me, but I think Scotland got leave to do a second referendum in 2016, but never got around to actually do it in the wake of the igniting dumpster fire. Either way, there is always the option to just do it, which becomes increasingly likely if Hard Brexit does really lead to shortages of basic goods as many fear. (To the bystanders: The worry stems from customs inspections potentially causing so huge delays at the ports that the UK trade grinds to a full halt. That would be bad. No toilet paper level bad.)


My personal prediction from here on is the UK either stopping Brexit or dissolving, either calmly and politely in a series of sedition votes, or violently with a whole bunch of dead Irish to show for it. There is simply no way to make all of this work.

And the best part? None of this is the EUs fault. The UK basically set itself on fire and called it sovereignty.
 
That will be at the beginning of next month, he is in the middle of some rather delicate negotiations.
Can we get an immediate meeting with someone equally high-standing (or higher) in Shaitan-Jinn alliance/war effort?
the news of the Doomship alone are critically important to relay, and the sooner - the better :/
 
Can we get an immediate meeting with someone equally high-standing (or higher) in Shaitan-Jinn alliance/war effort?
the news of the Doomship alone are critically important to relay, and the sooner - the better :/

You can but that comes with a chance the information will get leaked. In Viserys' estimation a few more days are not going to make enough of a difference to take the risk.
 
Part MMDCCVIII: Children of Dragons
Children of Dragons

Twenty-Seventh Day of the Eighth Month 293 AC

A bow of dragon bone and daggers of spellsteel you hand out along with coin enough to match the coffers of even a minor lord, each warrior by turn accepting the gift graciously, some stating their desire to serve you at once, others content to wait for the festival's end where you will be awarding land for oaths of fealty. Ser Balon is not among the former ranks, though that is not wholly surprising. He is not a sellsword living by blade and bow but the second son of a noteworthy noble House of the Stormlands. Still, you have no fear of 'Black Balon' taking his prizes and sailing off, not when he is this close to a lordship of his own.

The summer islander, Kojja Mo, might be one to sail off, though it would be on her own ship and only for as long as the winds of trade and fortune bear her you suspect. The Deep makes for an anchorage like no other, a marketplace unmatched in the wealth and splendor of otherworldly goods flowing from the Terminus.

So, making careful note of every face, every keen-eyed gaze for the world is in need of champions bearing bows no less than those with blades or magic, you take your leave of the Circle.

"I want a full report on the Qartheen," you send to Varys. "Some magical transmutation touched him for all no power lingers near him now. Tell the Commissar to be careful who he sends along too, he might react unpredictably if he realizes what is happening..." You briefly consider offering the man healing then and there as you had done to Ser Philip Foote, but then decide the odds that he would refuse, perhaps virulently so, are too great. Dany can make the offer in private, once his background has been verified.

As Varys flies off mock-grumbling about feeling like a 'messenger buzzard' you glance at the small arcane clock, made as proof of concept for the new tower. Still early enough to get plenty of work done today...

***​

The report on New Lys'os, marked non-urgent and thus often shuffled down the pile of parchments that has taken up permanent residence on your desk like the nest of some odd scholarly avian, nonetheless makes for a very interesting, if at times saddening, reading. The local beasts seem to be shunning the fortress after several assaults by large mutated creatures failed to do more than give the Erinyes the chance for a spot of target practice. However, the concentration of life, and you suspect the presence of the heart tree, in the poisoned lands had drawn the ire of the dead and damned. No less than five ash-shrouded specters had slipped through the walls to attack the legionnaires stationed there, slaying over a dozen before the verdant wolves and mages were able to lay them to rest at last.

Gained 10 lbs of magical ash (faint necromancy aura) being used to aid Lys'os research

Unfortunate as the losses have been, they were not at least in vain. Studies into the nature of the curse that afflicted the land have been going much swifter than you might have expected. Flesh and sinew was torn and shredded, soil measured and weighed, and the warping influences on things alive and dead studied. The first conclusion reached is that the 'Old Blood' could easily survive in any realm strongly touched by the heat of the Eternal Furnace, such as say the Plane of Molten Skies, an interesting detail but not precisely one easily used under present circumstances.

It is the second discovery that interests you more for it offers hope for the people of the borderlands. One of the researchers theorizes that those afflicted with the 'Lingering Doom', as it has come to be called, are caught halfway in some transformation of the flesh and mind and that a talisman could be crafted for them to complete the process. As theories go it is rather thin, however, something about it calls out to memories of old, to dreams and the knowledge they hold.

Dragons are creatures of magic, of ever-shifting power the children of Tiamat. When two breeds meet they might give rise to eggs of any other that ever was, and even eggs already laid could change if the place in which they were set was inimical to the unborn slumbering within, the afflicted have the blood of dragons working upon them slowly like a blind sculptor with unsteady hands.... generation upon generation. They are obviously not becoming dragons, that takes a longer and far more arduous path, but you suspect they are growing ever closer to being dragon-kin, their curse perhaps nothing more than the fires of that transformation demanding to be stoked.

Of course the theory is not perfect, for other living things of the waste perish if taken beyond their borders, but in those cases it seems to be more a case of wasting away like a sailor living for too long on naught but hardtack and less the immolation of flesh that the tales of the Old Blood warn against for those who stray too far. Even if your guess is true, however, there is yet a long way between identifying the problem and forging a solution.

On an odder note it seems some of the local fey, petty fire spirits akin to gremlins, have come in peace before the gates of the fortress, offering to serve as guides into the surrounding countryside and even to trade. You can only remember encountering their like once before and that was when you battled the Bright One's court, but much has changed since then. You are certainly not opposed to their aid, though you applaud Commander Gorgious' caution in not taking any bargain immediately and instead calling for a 'fey wrangler'. Glyra will serve nicely there, though perhaps not alone. As it would be the task of several weeks if not more you decide to leave the matter aside for the moment and allow her to enjoy the festival for now...

The thought breaks off as you hear soft foot falls in the corridor and the door to your study creeks hesitantly open to admit Rhaenys. "Umm... Uncle Viserys, I mean, Your Grace..." she begins.

"There is no need to call me that unless you would rather be called 'Your Highness' rather than your name," you tell the girl with a smile.

The girl shakes her head firmly: "No, that's fine. I was wondering if you could take me and mama to Sunspear? Tyene's busy talking to some merchant and Dany's out healing folk, so..."

"Of course I will take you," you reply at once. You could do with a chance to speak to Doran about the matter of Oberyn's new lands and his daughters' legitimization.

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OOC: The rolls for New Lys'os ranged from 'pretty good' (only one fatal attack) to excellent (research progress). Also since I know you guys are going to ask the mutated animals where not worth tossing into the flesh-forge, they either burst into flames or rotted upon death since they were highly unstable.
 
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