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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Plan "Food for the Crows"
-[X] Somewhat sardonically: "Something tells me things won't be that simple."
-[X] Use a sending to contact her, to see if she would be interested in meeting her father, and whether or not she is feeling particularly vengeful due to her current circumstances. A vague explanation that you are in contact with her father preceding that should suffice.
-[X] Depending on her answer, and the apparent urgency of her reply, pledge to take Mors Umber Beyond-the-Wall to see her/retrieve her.

Would rather get that out of the way.
 
Before we go Beyond the Wall with him I definitely want to dump VS on him in some capacity if he isn't lucky enough in the melee.
 
DragonParadox said:
OOC: Elda turned out to very lucky since I rolled a 1d100 do establish her fate and she got an 86. By comparison 31-60 would have been dead and 1-30 would have been 'dead and reanimated as a wight'
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Uhhhh, please tell me these rolls were weighted by narrative tension and we aren't already in the phase of Winter's waxing that allows a godsdamned third of all corpses to be a Walking Wight .
 
Deliste said:
Uhhhh, please tell me these rolls were weighted by narrative tension and we aren't already in the phase of Winter's waxing that allows a godsdamned third of all corpses to be a Walking Wight .
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It's worse than that, it would be 50% of all corpses if her chances were standard, after all she only had 60% chance of being dead, which mean there's a 60% chance of her being dead, and a 30% chance of her being a Wight, not a 30% chance of her being a Wight if she's dead.
 
Crake said:
[X] Plan "Food for the Crows"
-[X] Somewhat sardonically: "Something tells me things won't be that simple."
-[X] Use a sending to contact her, to see if she would be interested in meeting her father, and whether or not she is feeling particularly vengeful due to her current circumstances. A vague explanation that you are in contact with her father preceding that should suffice.
-[X] Depending on her answer, and the apparent urgency of her reply, pledge to take Mors Umber Beyond-the-Wall to see her/retrieve her.
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I'm not entirely sure how she would take a voice suddenly appearing in her head. You might want to wait until she ain't in public to do something like that.

We could discuss our options with Mors while waiting. It can go from simply sending a message to her and learning more about her circumstances, to heading North of the Wall ourself once we've ... handled Stark and rescuing her. The latter implying the Umber's cooperation. If he asks why don't we just teleport we can explain the immense power of the Wall, or even segue into talking about the Others.
 
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DragonParadox said:
They were indeed weighted for narative tension.
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On the one hand that's good, on the other hand, I would love to be able to dispatch a group of legionaires, to do Wight hunting and sacrificing.

The type of Wight's that the Others mass produce, should be within the mean of our legion to capture, and even with them not really being sentient, the fact that they are the minions of the Others, should mean they are good sacrifices for the old gods.

And even if we can't take them undead, or they aren't viable sacrifices to the old gods due to lack of mind, they would make good fuel for the Flesh forge.

And yes the real reason I want this, is that our legion is awesome, but it's far too rare it get to fight other armies, and with fights like against Lys army, the pleasure of seeing them dominate the battlefield, is marred by the fact that those are potential citizens they were killing.
 
Crake said:
[X] Plan "Food for the Crows"
-[X] Somewhat sardonically: "Something tells me things won't be that simple."
-[X] Use a sending to contact her, to see if she would be interested in meeting her father, and whether or not she is feeling particularly vengeful due to her current circumstances. A vague explanation that you are in contact with her father preceding that should suffice.
-[X] Depending on her answer, and the apparent urgency of her reply, pledge to take Mors Umber Beyond-the-Wall to see her/retrieve her.

Would rather get that out of the way.
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If we want to get there quick, we should scry the nearest Weirwood, and then use treestride to get to it, the Thenn's probably have one in or near their village, so we could be there within the hour.
 
People, the rolls were adjusted for drama. Clearly you all missed the (creepy) YA romance scenario, where the baby's father is dead at the hand of some valiant hero that she's living a passionate romance with as the tribe struggles against [problem X that she will be instrumental in solving]
Creepy Stockholm Syndrome stuff and deeply unhealthy power dynamics are left on the background, of course.

And now she doesn't want to go home without her beloved, and won't see him harmed! Meanwhile he won't leave until his tribe us saved from [problem X] !

Crake said:
Well, I'm willing to be his daughter won't want the Wildling dead. Which should be amusingly awkward. You don't keep a woman around in your tent and sleep beside her every night without considering at least a little (or a lot considering you kidnapped her from relatively sure comfort and safety) bit of kindness, and any hopes of keeping her from getting her hands on even a sharpened rock are so slim that you might as well make sure she has a knife (and probably a spear) like most other spear wives.

So either she already killed the guy, or they have a relatively amicable relationship.
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:jackiechan::jackiechan::jackiechan:
I swear, if we were standing in from of each other IRL I would be shaking you. (Or trying to, dunno how strong/fat/murderous you are). This comment is seriously anger-inducing.

So every kidnapped abuse victim who doesn't kill her attacker is consenting in some way?
Fuck that.
If she killed him, his family and friends would probably kill her or make her life even worse. She knows this, and is obviously afraid of it.

tarrangar said:
What compromise do you propose then? Because I'm certainly open to better plans, than what 5 minutes of thought got me.
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Why should we compromise? Why should we keep this person alive?
You know far too little about the situation to judge him. Is he a murderous rapist? Death. Is he some absolute hero? Recruit him and Diplomance Mors like the irrelevant meathead barbarian he is.
My point is that not only is it too early to decide, but that your insistence on a compromise seems very stupid. Everything realistic points to this man being better off dead.
 
[X] Crake

@Crake Maybe she would react better if we Imbued the Sending spell into her father so that he could contact her?
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
People, the rolls were adjusted for drama. Clearly you all missed the (creepy) YA romance scenario, where the baby's father is dead at the hand of some valiant hero that she's living a passionate romance with as the tribe struggles against [problem X that she will be instrumental in solving]
Creepy Stockholm Syndrome stuff and deeply unhealthy power dynamics are left on the background, of course.

And now she doesn't want to go home without her beloved, and won't see him harmed! Meanwhile he won't leave until his tribe us saved from [problem X] !


:jackiechan::jackiechan::jackiechan:
I swear, if we were standing in from of each other IRL I would be shaking you. (Or trying to, dunno how strong/fat/murderous you are). This comment is seriously anger-inducing.

So every kidnapped abuse victim who doesn't kill her attacker is consenting in some way?
Fuck that.
If she killed him, his family and friends would probably kill her or make her life even worse. She knows this, and is obviously afraid of it.


Why should we compromise? Why should we keep this person alive?
You know far too little about the situation to judge him. Is he a murderous rapist? Death. Is he some absolute hero? Recruit him and Diplomance Mors like the irrelevant meathead barbarian he is.
My point is that not only is it too early to decide, but that your insistence on a compromise seems very stupid. Everything realistic points to this man being better off dead.
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Yep. No need for compromise. If she is effectively being held captive, we kill people until this is no longer the case.

If she escaped and found the Thenns or was rescued by them, we reward them.

I don't see many other acceptable options.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Why should we compromise? Why should we keep this person alive?
You know far too little about the situation to judge him. Is he a murderous rapist? Death. Is he some absolute hero? Recruit him and Diplomance Mors like the irrelevant meathead barbarian he is.
My point is that not only is it too early to decide, but that your insistence on a compromise seems very stupid. Everything realistic points to this man being better off dead.
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Wife stealing is standard for his culture, if we pardon slavers because slavery was legal, then in order not to be hypocrites, we must also pardon wife stealers, because in their cultures that's legal and encouraged.

Being a wife stealer as a Wildling, no more point to being someone the law say we should kill, than being a slaver as an Essosi.
 
[X] Offer him help getting to the Valley of the Thenns and recover his daughter so long as he swears to follow the lead of whatever negotiator you appoint
 
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