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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Duesal said:
The stars are evil. Mainly because ASOIAF is a Lovecraft-inspired setting.
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To be fair, what thing isn't evil in ASOIAF?

We got the Others in the North, the Shadow in the East, Deathworld Sothoryos in the South, nothing ever comes back form the Western Sunset Sea, the oceans are somewhat evil too because the Drowned God, Valyrians were evil to the core, and the only god with enough power seems to be "EVERYONE IS MY SLAVE" Burny.
 
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Azel said:
I would rather use Profession (Pilot) for both as Ride looks... really weird....
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Ride is the skill used to get a transportation device to do what you want. At least small ones where personal skill has direct impact.
Tomcost said:
To be fair, what thing isn't evil in ASOIAF?

We got the Others in the North, the Shadow in the East, Deathworld Sothoryos in the South, nothing ever comes back form the WesternSunset Sea, the oceans are somewhat evil too because the Drowned God, Valyrians were evil to the core, and the only god with enough power seems to be "EVERYONE IS MY SLAVE" Burny.
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If you dig deep enough you'll enter the Underdark.
 
Tomcost said:
To be fair, what thing isn't evil in ASOIAF?

We got the Others in the North, the Shadow in the East, Deathworld Sothoryos in the South, nothing ever comes back form the WesternSunset Sea, the oceans are somewhat evil too because the Drowned God, Valyrians were evil to the core, and the only god with enough power seems to be "EVERYONE IS MY SLAVE" Burny.
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My point was mainly that if any of our magelings go and get themselves patrons, we should make sure it isn't just a surprise!eldritch or fiend in disguise. Otherwise we have prime grounds for a cult.
 
Duesal said:
My point was mainly that if any of our magelings go and get themselves patrons, we should make sure it isn't just a surprise!eldritch or fiend in disguise. Otherwise we have prime grounds for a cult.
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I agree with that point. But the fact is that now that we are in a D&D setting, there are more good deities and patrons around. Even is most are inept and/or useless, they exist. So this world is actually better than cannon ASOIAF, because at least here you can choose something not inherently evil.
 
I... seriously... whatever...

I've invested so much time and effort into this and every time I bring it up, one or two selected people will start prodding holes at everything in what amounts to heckling by now.

This is a role-playing game for fucks sake. You don't need 100% rule coverage for absolutely everything you will ever do. That's the point.

I'm not writing a book on yet another system, just because a few people can't stomach the idea of *gasp* the DM deciding things.
 
Azel said:
I would strongly advise you to resolve these things narratively. Vehicular combat is one of those things that never works out terribly well in a Pen & Paper.
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Flying Circus does a pretty great job at this, and it is designed from the ground up to handle fighter combat. It probably isn't the easiest system to graft onto D&D, but it might be a thing to look at for air combat since you are also talking about battletech, which is at its weakest there.
 
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Azel said:
I... seriously... whatever...

I've invested so much time and effort into this and every time I bring it up, one or two selected people will start prodding holes at everything in what amounts to heckling by now.

This is a role-playing game for fucks sake. You don't need 100% rule coverage for absolutely everything you will ever do. That's the point.

I'm not writing a book on yet another system, just because a few people can't stomach the idea of *gasp* the DM deciding things.
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*commiseration intensifies*
 
Azel said:
I... seriously... whatever...

I've invested so much time and effort into this and every time I bring it up, one or two selected people will start prodding holes at everything in what amounts to heckling by now.

This is a role-playing game for fucks sake. You don't need 100% rule coverage for absolutely everything you will ever do. That's the point.

I'm not writing a book on yet another system, just because a few people can't stomach the idea of *gasp* the DM deciding things.
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I'm fine with abstracting things too.

I thought you wanted more detail too. It was never my intention to make you feel like you have to put in even more work on top of everything you did so far.

Sorry for the miscommunication.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Feb 25, 2019 at 12:49 PM, finished with 282808 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Hungry Snek
    -[X] Questions for Yss before we feed him (heavily implied that the cost of the questions is covered by the sacrifice)
    --[X] Would Yss be willing to help proofread a book written to establish a Grand Unified Religion of the Imperium? This is to help make sure we avoid stepping on any toes with him.
    --[X] On the nature of the divine.
    ---[X] How does prayer work?
    ---[X] How does Little Coatl draw power from good acts?
    ---[X] How do prayer, good-deeds and sacrifice power generation compare to each other?
    ---[X] How do they interact?
    ---[X] Does the god need a metaphysical property to be able to draw power in a given way?
    ---[X] When a god is born, comes the consciousness or the divine power first?
    ---[X] How do they grant spells and does it cost them power to do so?
    ---[X] How do Ley Lines factor into this?
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of the various types of serpentfolk that once served him, their various abilities, and where they could be found?
    --[X] Can Yss give us a map of his former worshipper's lands in Sothoryos so we can track down the ruins later?
    ---[X] On the subject of his worshippers, has he found any more suitable candidates for clerics aside from Svitran?
    ---[X] Does Yss have his holy book he can give us for our collection?
    --[X] Can Yss tell us the locations of any leylines that he's aware of and mark them on ou appropriate maps?
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of Sseth, his abilities, what methods and champions he tends to use (if there are specific names that would be great), where his former strongholds were located, etc.
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of Lolth, her abilities, what methods and champions she tends to use (if there are specific names that would be great), where her former strongholds were located, etc.
    ---[X] What can Yss tell us of the Underdark and the ruined Drow city of Zanthor on the surface? What about the "silver mountains" elsewhere in Sothoryos?
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of Zathir/Jazirian? (can be given as books IC that we read later to keep the questions short)
    --[X] Is there a way to precisely divine the location of the undead coatl godling in the Plane of Fire?
    --[X] Is there a way we could get more coatls (not godlings, just normal ones), and if so what payment and material components would we need?
    --[X] We have an Orb of Dragonkind. Does he know of a way to destroy the artifact as well as the wyrm inside? If so, how much payment would he need?
    --[X] Ask Yss if resurrecting gods of Valyria, like Syrax or Meraxes and not keeping any connections to the 15th is possible. Would he, a god with domains of Life and Death, be capable of such feat if given a sufficient infusion of energy?
    --[X] Ask Yss what his price would be for taking part in creation of an artifact out of Varys' god-denying trinket, a piece made together with other gods we manage to diplomance into this, a way to snare Tiamat's/other deity's power when it is exerted over the wearer... Like young Aegon, who is trapped in her web of lies.
    ---[X] On that vein, when the time comes, does he know of a solution to deal with the 15th? How much payment would he require if so?
    --[X] Does Yss know how to stop sleeping so much? We have lots of strong monsters to feed him and are often thwarted by the fact that he's asleep.
    -[X] After the questions are answered, sacrifice the following for Yss
    --[X] Sacrifice two Colossal Fiendish Monstrous Spiders (CR 13 each) to undo Lolth's divine curse on the two Chwidenchas and restore them to their original forms.
    --[X] Sacrifice Tor (CR 15) and Varys (CR 17 with gear, CR 16 without?) make sure to vote beforehand what reward to get out of it.
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Goldfish said:
Hmm, should we include a +5 Competence bonus item for Profession(Pilot) with the gear for our fighter pilots? It would only cost 250 IM. Or a +10 for 1000 IM?
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Fluff it as a flight control system? Maybe tie it to the Sight Enhancer enchantment so that it actually shows a person information on their screen like modern fighter craft, like distance to target, altitude, flight speed, etc.
 
Crake said:
Fluff it as a flight control system? Maybe tie it to the Sight Enhancer enchantment so that it actually shows a person information on their screen like modern fighter craft, like distance to target, altitude, flight speed, etc.
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That's neat. Thoughts, @Azel?

Magical HUD addition with a +5 Competence bonus to Piloting included with the fighters?
 
OK looking at the winning vote I think we are heading into another multiple update exposition, though hopefully just 2-3 updates this time.

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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Feb 25, 2019 at 12:49 PM, finished with 282808 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Hungry Snek
    -[X] Questions for Yss before we feed him (heavily implied that the cost of the questions is covered by the sacrifice)
    --[X] Would Yss be willing to help proofread a book written to establish a Grand Unified Religion of the Imperium? This is to help make sure we avoid stepping on any toes with him.
    --[X] On the nature of the divine.
    ---[X] How does prayer work?
    ---[X] How does Little Coatl draw power from good acts?
    ---[X] How do prayer, good-deeds and sacrifice power generation compare to each other?
    ---[X] How do they interact?
    ---[X] Does the god need a metaphysical property to be able to draw power in a given way?
    ---[X] When a god is born, comes the consciousness or the divine power first?
    ---[X] How do they grant spells and does it cost them power to do so?
    ---[X] How do Ley Lines factor into this?
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of the various types of serpentfolk that once served him, their various abilities, and where they could be found?
    --[X] Can Yss give us a map of his former worshipper's lands in Sothoryos so we can track down the ruins later?
    ---[X] On the subject of his worshippers, has he found any more suitable candidates for clerics aside from Svitran?
    ---[X] Does Yss have his holy book he can give us for our collection?
    --[X] Can Yss tell us the locations of any leylines that he's aware of and mark them on ou appropriate maps?
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of Sseth, his abilities, what methods and champions he tends to use (if there are specific names that would be great), where his former strongholds were located, etc.
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of Lolth, her abilities, what methods and champions she tends to use (if there are specific names that would be great), where her former strongholds were located, etc.
    ---[X] What can Yss tell us of the Underdark and the ruined Drow city of Zanthor on the surface? What about the "silver mountains" elsewhere in Sothoryos?
    --[X] What can Yss tell us of Zathir/Jazirian? (can be given as books IC that we read later to keep the questions short)
    --[X] Is there a way to precisely divine the location of the undead coatl godling in the Plane of Fire?
    --[X] Is there a way we could get more coatls (not godlings, just normal ones), and if so what payment and material components would we need?
    --[X] We have an Orb of Dragonkind. Does he know of a way to destroy the artifact as well as the wyrm inside? If so, how much payment would he need?
    --[X] Ask Yss if resurrecting gods of Valyria, like Syrax or Meraxes and not keeping any connections to the 15th is possible. Would he, a god with domains of Life and Death, be capable of such feat if given a sufficient infusion of energy?
    --[X] Ask Yss what his price would be for taking part in creation of an artifact out of Varys' god-denying trinket, a piece made together with other gods we manage to diplomance into this, a way to snare Tiamat's/other deity's power when it is exerted over the wearer... Like young Aegon, who is trapped in her web of lies.
    ---[X] On that vein, when the time comes, does he know of a solution to deal with the 15th? How much payment would he require if so?
    --[X] Does Yss know how to stop sleeping so much? We have lots of strong monsters to feed him and are often thwarted by the fact that he's asleep.
    -[X] After the questions are answered, sacrifice the following for Yss
    --[X] Sacrifice two Colossal Fiendish Monstrous Spiders (CR 13 each) to undo Lolth's divine curse on the two Chwidenchas and restore them to their original forms.
    --[X] Sacrifice Tor (CR 15) and Varys (CR 17 with gear, CR 16 without?) make sure to vote beforehand what reward to get out of it.
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Now that the fighters are nearing completion, we need to start screening our people for suitable skills, talent, and attributes necessary to be pilots.

The fighters will be air worthy at the end of the month. After that they will just need the finishing touches to make them combat viable. @DragonParadox, assuming we already located a pool of potential pilots with high Dexterity, good spacial awareness, no fear of heights, etc., how much would you let them retrain during next month to gain the Profession(Pilot) skill?

What other skills would they need, y'all? Knowledge (Geography), Survival, etc?
 
Goldfish said:
Now that the fighters are nearing completion, we need to start screening our people for suitable skills, talent, and attributes necessary to be pilots.

The fighters will be air worthy at the end of the month. After that they will just need the finishing touches to make them combat viable. @DragonParadox, assuming we already located a pool of potential pilots with high Dexterity, good spacial awareness, no fear of heights, etc., how much would you let them retrain during next month to gain the Profession(Pilot) skill?

What other skills would they need, y'all? Knowledge (Geography), Survival, etc?
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  1. There are orders of magnitude more candidates to be found than you will have fighters in the initial batch
  2. As for retraining times, assuming you used someone who already has at east some ranks in UMD (of which there are plenty thanks to the Scholarum's efforts) you could get pilots trained up in as little as two weeks
 
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