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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
It shouldn't stack. Which is also why I'm quite attached to the NA +7.

So definitely VS.
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Here's a nice cheap equipment list for the Praetorians. Not having to pay for stat boosters lets us spend a bit more on other neat stuff.

It might be a bit excessive, but we have the wealth and crafting capacity, and our super-soldiers can't be walking around wearing a bunch of non-magical muggle shit.

Reinforced Segmented Valyrian Steel fullplate (+2)
Valyrian Steel Thinblade (+2)
Valyrian Steel Extreme Shield (+2)
Ring of Protection from Evil - 400 IM
Ring of Sustenance - 250 IM
Healing Belt - 75 IM
Amulet of Tears - 230 IM
Earring of Arcane Acuity - 340 IM
Boots of Speed - 300 IM
Bracers of Quickstrike - 140 IM
Handy Haversack - 200 IM
Traveler's Any-Tool - 25 IM

Total: 1,960 IM
 
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Evaunit02mark1 said:
[X] Azel

Ah the tried and true method of "Watch my hands, kick to the nuts."
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Actually, even at the full scope of the plan, Littlefinger can easily make it out like a bandit with his luggage on his way to some place else consisting of nothing but a few chests full of embezzled money.

Shame that I intend to pin the bombing of the Small Council and mysterious disappearance of the entire royal treasury on him.
 
Azel said:
He is probably millions in debt with the Lannisters and the Faith at this point.
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Which is wonderful for us later since there won't be Lannisters to call up the debt by the end of all this.

Either way, can you further explain how this brand of Economic Warfare will work and how we will properly use it for not outsmarting ourselves?
 
Tomcost said:
While I apreciate the scheme, do we really need to cause this whole chaos to discredit king fatass?
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If you are worried about the impact on the peasants, don't. At the end of this, there will be ample food for them and this will actually lower the impact of the war on them as armies will have an easy time to supply themselves. It also creates more arable land for us to exploit after the take-over and we can leverage the debts made by Littlefinger against the lower nobility.

This is one of those schemes where we can profit in so many ways if it goes right and where it costs us absolutely nothing even if everything goes wrong.
 
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ryuan said:
Which is wonderful for us later since there won't be Lannisters to call up the debt by the end of all this.

Either way, can you further explain how this brand of Economic Warfare will work and how we will properly use it for not outsmarting ourselves?
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It would be amusing to gain such total control of the Faith of the Seven, through means fair, foul, and completely bullshit, that we can call in the marker on the dept the Usurper owes the institution.
 
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ryuan said:
Which is wonderful for us later since there won't be Lannisters to call up the debt by the end of all this.

Either way, can you further explain how this brand of Economic Warfare will work and how we will properly use it for not outsmarting ourselves?
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I thought I explained it in sufficient detail in the actual plan. What is unclear? I will gladly explain further.
 
Goldfish said:
Here's a nice cheap equipment list for the Praetorians. Not having to pay for stat boosters lets us spend a bit more on other neat stuff.

It might be a bit excessive, but we have the wealth and crafting capacity, and our super-soldiers can't be walking around wearing a bunch of non-magical muggle shit.

Reinforced Segmented Valyrian Steel fullplate (+2)
Valyrian Steel Thinblade (+2)
Steel Extreme Shield (+1) - 100 IM
Ring of Protection from Evil - 400 IM
Ring of Sustenance - 250 IM
Healing Belt - 75 IM
Amulet of Tears - 230 IM
Earring of Arcane Acuity - 340 IM
Boots of Speed - 300 IM
Bracers of Quickstrike - 140 IM
Handy Haversack - 200 IM

Total: 2,035 IM
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Why only a regular steel shield? If we go VS, we should go all the way VS.
 
Azel said:
Why only a regular steel shield? If we go VS, we should go all the way VS.
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We can, but it's a fairly significant investment in Valyrian Steel for what amounts to just an additional +1 to AC. I don't mind, though. In for a penny, in for a pound.

Updating the list.
 
Azel said:
I thought I explained it in sufficient detail in the actual plan. What is unclear? I will gladly explain further.
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I thought it was a bit unclear.

We artificially lower the grain price, impose tariffs to sell the ruse, then increase the production with magic rituals and then during harvest we dumb tons of cheap grain to crash the market, right?

But how this will affect us, and how can we prevent this from giving extra power to the faith? Or do we want the faith to get more powerful and zealot to make it easier to purge it later?
 
Goldfish said:
Here's a nice cheap equipment list for the Praetorians. Not having to pay for stat boosters lets us spend a bit more on other neat stuff.

It might be a bit excessive, but we have the wealth and crafting capacity, and our super-soldiers can't be walking around wearing a bunch of non-magical muggle shit.

Reinforced Segmented Valyrian Steel fullplate (+2)
Valyrian Steel Thinblade (+2)
Steel Extreme Shield (+1) - 100 IM
Ring of Protection from Evil - 400 IM
Ring of Sustenance - 250 IM
Healing Belt - 75 IM
Amulet of Tears - 230 IM
Earring of Arcane Acuity - 340 IM
Boots of Speed - 300 IM
Bracers of Quickstrike - 140 IM
Handy Haversack - 200 IM

Total: 2,035 IM
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Christ.

Scabbard of keen edges and... god. Just. They're Complete murder machines aren't they? NO MORE

I CAN'T DO IT!

BRB!!!
 
ryuan said:
I thought it was a bit unclear.

We artificially lower the grain price, impose tariffs to sell the ruse, then increase the production with magic rituals and then during harvest we dumb tons of cheap grain to crash the market, right?

But how this will affect us, and how can we prevent this from giving extra power to the faith? Or do we want the faith to get more powerful and zealot to make it easier to purge it later?
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The tariffs will raise the grain price in Westeros and lower it in Essos.
In Essos, that's fine for us, as we are already counting on that happening through the spread of the harvest ritual and are already taking steps to alleviate the issue.
Furthermore, we buy up grain in Essos to fill up our non-sacrifice larders for the coming winter and the campaign in Westeros.

For us, it makes it easier to prepare for the wars to come while marginally increasing a development we already anticipate.

As for the Faith, I don't see them profiting except by regular Doom & Gloom preaching getting a slight boost. At the same time though, it prepares fertile ground for our own propaganda efforts. After all, high grain prices are a clear sign of the king being an idiot and stories of that other kings realm having cheap food in abundance will make them wonder why they are saddled with Robert.

Furthermore, it encourages the spread of magic and it's acceptance in the peasantry, as "magic ritual that makes more food" sounds great right in that moment.
 
ryuan said:
So what do we use those Super Soldiers for? And what is the proposed build for them?
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B-Party padding. Inquisition Stormtroopers for the uglier cases. Later on, though this will take serious money, make them a Legion Company.

I'm still hoping DP greenlights a Crusader build for them. It's a very tanky class that greatly plays to their strengths.
 
Azel said:
B-Party padding. Inquisition Stormtroopers for the uglier cases. Later on, though this will take serious money, make them a Legion Company.

I'm still hoping DP greenlights a Crusader build for them. It's a very tanky class that greatly plays to their strengths.
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What about a reskinned Samurai? Call them Dragon Knights or something and they would be perfect. There is even an Order of the Dragon feature they can select.
 
Goldfish said:
What about a reskinned Samurai? Call them Dragon Knights or something and they would be perfect. There is even an Order of the Dragon feature they can select.
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I like Dragon Knights far more than Praetorian.

Not necessarily the Samurai class.

I could do what I did for Paragon Knight and take mostly-Ex schools and create a stripped crusader.

Perhaps with something that plays with their full VS set. That sounds interesting.
 
Aww... Real quick.

Does anybody know what skills were teaching in SD?

I want to put this guy 20 minutes into the future, so one of the first generation to be born and raised in SD.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
I like Dragon Knights far more than Praetorian.

Not necessarily the Samurai class.

I could do what I did for Paragon Knight and take mostly-Ex schools and create a stripped crusader.

Perhaps with something that plays with their full VS set. That sounds interesting.
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They are not knights though.

Samurai looks really weird on them, as I don't see a great focus on mounted combat for them. I'm personally greatly in favor of the Crusader, though I wouldn't say automatically no to something custom.

@Goldfish, something for their load-out: Traveler's Any-Tool – d20PFSRD
zxzx24 said:
Aww... Real quick.

Does anybody know what skills were teaching in SD?

I want to put this guy 20 minutes into the future, so one of the first generation to be born and raised in SD.
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By that time? Pretty much everything I would wager.
 
zxzx24 said:
Aww... Real quick.

Does anybody know what skills were teaching in SD?

I want to put this guy 20 minutes into the future, so one of the first generation to be born and raised in SD.
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Everyone growing up in Sorcerer's Deep learns to read, write, basic skills in arithmetics, basic knowledge of magic and what it can do (this is to head off any and all charlatans), history, geography, etc. We're aiming for the quality of a modern education.
 
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