Doran might spontaneously convert to Old Gods worship if that happens.
Oberyn would be decorating trees with septon entrails.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Doran might spontaneously convert to Old Gods worship if that happens.
Oberyn would be decorating trees with septon entrails.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
Okay so it's been established this guy is a two faced son of a cowardly bastard.
What's the plan to use him again?
You'll have to forgive me, whenever Westeros is mentioned my brain puts up a screen to try and ward off the more explicit cases of their ineptitude and bullshit. As a result I'm rather hazy on the details of our plots for the place that don't involve burning it to the fucking ground.
What's the plan to use him again?
You'll have to forgive me, whenever Westeros is mentioned my brain puts up a screen to try and ward off the more explicit cases of their ineptitude and bullshit. As a result I'm rather hazy on the details of our plots for the place that don't involve burning it to the fucking ground.
- Location
- United States
I am very tempted by the promise of new Weirwoods.Doran might spontaneously convert to Old Gods worship if that happens.
Oberyn would be decorating trees with septon entrails.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Doran might spontaneously convert to Old Gods worship if that happens.
Overyn would be decorating trees with septon entrails.
Dornish worshipers have already proven they can be roused to witch burning and pogroms.
Does that mean their Septons are reasonable but their faithful can be idiots, as most Westerosi peasantry can be, or that their Septons are just better plotters?
- Location
- Germany
It's always great to have a hobby shared by your extended family. It helps you bond.Doran might spontaneously convert to Old Gods worship if that happens.
Oberyn would be decorating trees with septon entrails.
- Location
- florida
Study draconic digestion? No, wait. Thats magic. Never mind.
WELP
God no wonder the IB isn't worried about us not being able to pay that back. We spend that much on insane economic schemes that somehow result in it raining money all the time.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Yeah, that's not even three months of our crafting budget now.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
- Location
- Brazil
More about special diet or some sort of maintenance.
Yeah, but it stacks.
Which makes all the difference.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
No, landed nobility don't sell their land. They rule it for thousands of years, and when they're destitute, they either A) ride that tide until something politically fortunate happens, like an advantageous marriage or fighting in a war on a winning side and winning honors, or B) marry lower but richer.
More seriously, to answer your question, we have a lot of liquid capital we can spend compared to most states, but that is simply because we are constantly expanding a trade conglomerate which deals in vast sums of currency which the state that owns that conglomerate can mint using financial wizardry and market manipulation.
- Location
- ?????????
...Wow I am actually surprised. I though it would be much larger. Did cutting back on parties really do that much?
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Fewer Tourneys, too.
Point for fact, we are holding a tourney that is likely the most singly expensive and extravagant festival type event that has been held in centuries anywhere on Essos or Westeros.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Less partying and tourneys on Robert's part, but also more borrowing from the Faith and the Lannisters, along with us being several years pre-canon at this point.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Plan Just Do Your Job (That Includes Your Side-Job)
-[X] "I assure you, if I were here to give away a blade and ask for a slain dragon, I would have taken my chances with the seating at the Red Keep. Bravery is something your King is rather famous for after all." // Make sure that Bravery is properly pronounced Stupidity.
-[X] "All I would ask you for is to give him counsel, as it is befitting of your position. As you said yourself, the Lords of these lands are loathe to take care of the matter of coin and all too easily something can slip between the cracks without the dutiful aid of men like us." // Making it clear that we expect nothing more of him then doing his job in a particular fashion. Also generous hinting at the chance to take some liberties with the numbers on his reports.
-[X] "A war takes coin after all and the coffers of a realm often bleed harder then all the soldiers in the field put together, even if victory is achieved. It is the manner of procurement of those funds that I am here about, since we could gain a lot from aligning our purposes there." // Last direct speech part to introduce into the nitty gritty details of our proposal.
-[X] What we want Littlefinger to do:
--[X] Mention to Robert that the royal coffers are depleting and that he is worried about the realms readiness to pay for a military campaign.
--[X] He will then mention the option of imposing heavy tariffs on grain and other agricultural products from Essos. There prices there are falling as the Dragon has recently begun producing and selling large quantities. Hint that it would hurt the Dragon if those tariffs are imposed. Roberts urge to hurt the Dragon will take care of the rest.
--[X] Hint that Littlefinger can embezzle a generous helping of coin from those tariffs.
--[X] Meanwhile he can leverage his knowledge about the agriculture rituals to gain points with the other lords of Westeros and can encourage them to invest in new farmland by taking loans from him.
--[X] If Robert rubs his two brain-cells together and notices the issue of food shortages, openly sell that idea to him to further increase the crowns hold on the other lords. Again, Littlefinger can do some creative bookkeeping here while looking smart and important to everyone.
--[X] In case of actual food shortages, we can arrange some unofficial shipments from a few people in the Disputed Lands for a reasonable price and a small fee to the concerned authorities to look away.
--[X] Meanwhile we, as in Ghis, will cheaply buy up the Targs grain that he can't get rid of elsewhere to expand our own forces. Imply heavily that the moment the Targ attacks Westeros, we will strike from the east and crush him in a two-front war with Westeros, all while nominally not being allied.
--[X] If Littlefinger helps us with this, we can promise rich rewards in our homeland, including title and manse, should he feel the need or desire to leave Westeros.
-[X] What we will actually do:
--[X] If Littlefinger goes for it, we will quietly buy up large quantities of overproduced grain in Essos and encourage others to do the same, speculating on Westeros dropping the tariffs later and needing urgently to get some food. ACSEC makes this exercise trivial to implement and nigh impossible to notice from the outside. That moderates the price decline and keeps it at a non-destructive level, but still encourages the switch to cash crops in the Disputed Lands and thus desired economic development.
--[X] Meanwhile, the Inquisition will branch out into becoming successful food smuggles, infesting every major harbor in Westeros with our agents while we are there.
-[X] Long term:
--[X] We will use Pycelle and Varys to have the tariffs dropped next year, then swamp the market with the stocked grain.
--[X] This is done shortly before the harvest season, when all those lovely investments and rituals will lead to a massive overproduction in Westeros.
--[X] Cue the grain price crashing, people defaulting on debts, peasants rioting and everyone involved in the whole tariff thing looking like fucking idiots.
-[X] "I assure you, if I were here to give away a blade and ask for a slain dragon, I would have taken my chances with the seating at the Red Keep. Bravery is something your King is rather famous for after all." // Make sure that Bravery is properly pronounced Stupidity.
-[X] "All I would ask you for is to give him counsel, as it is befitting of your position. As you said yourself, the Lords of these lands are loathe to take care of the matter of coin and all too easily something can slip between the cracks without the dutiful aid of men like us." // Making it clear that we expect nothing more of him then doing his job in a particular fashion. Also generous hinting at the chance to take some liberties with the numbers on his reports.
-[X] "A war takes coin after all and the coffers of a realm often bleed harder then all the soldiers in the field put together, even if victory is achieved. It is the manner of procurement of those funds that I am here about, since we could gain a lot from aligning our purposes there." // Last direct speech part to introduce into the nitty gritty details of our proposal.
-[X] What we want Littlefinger to do:
--[X] Mention to Robert that the royal coffers are depleting and that he is worried about the realms readiness to pay for a military campaign.
--[X] He will then mention the option of imposing heavy tariffs on grain and other agricultural products from Essos. There prices there are falling as the Dragon has recently begun producing and selling large quantities. Hint that it would hurt the Dragon if those tariffs are imposed. Roberts urge to hurt the Dragon will take care of the rest.
--[X] Hint that Littlefinger can embezzle a generous helping of coin from those tariffs.
--[X] Meanwhile he can leverage his knowledge about the agriculture rituals to gain points with the other lords of Westeros and can encourage them to invest in new farmland by taking loans from him.
--[X] If Robert rubs his two brain-cells together and notices the issue of food shortages, openly sell that idea to him to further increase the crowns hold on the other lords. Again, Littlefinger can do some creative bookkeeping here while looking smart and important to everyone.
--[X] In case of actual food shortages, we can arrange some unofficial shipments from a few people in the Disputed Lands for a reasonable price and a small fee to the concerned authorities to look away.
--[X] Meanwhile we, as in Ghis, will cheaply buy up the Targs grain that he can't get rid of elsewhere to expand our own forces. Imply heavily that the moment the Targ attacks Westeros, we will strike from the east and crush him in a two-front war with Westeros, all while nominally not being allied.
--[X] If Littlefinger helps us with this, we can promise rich rewards in our homeland, including title and manse, should he feel the need or desire to leave Westeros.
-[X] What we will actually do:
--[X] If Littlefinger goes for it, we will quietly buy up large quantities of overproduced grain in Essos and encourage others to do the same, speculating on Westeros dropping the tariffs later and needing urgently to get some food. ACSEC makes this exercise trivial to implement and nigh impossible to notice from the outside. That moderates the price decline and keeps it at a non-destructive level, but still encourages the switch to cash crops in the Disputed Lands and thus desired economic development.
--[X] Meanwhile, the Inquisition will branch out into becoming successful food smuggles, infesting every major harbor in Westeros with our agents while we are there.
-[X] Long term:
--[X] We will use Pycelle and Varys to have the tariffs dropped next year, then swamp the market with the stocked grain.
--[X] This is done shortly before the harvest season, when all those lovely investments and rituals will lead to a massive overproduction in Westeros.
--[X] Cue the grain price crashing, people defaulting on debts, peasants rioting and everyone involved in the whole tariff thing looking like fucking idiots.
- Location
- United States
Our open and strong association with Braavos probably has something to do with that. Once we started conquering, Robert also suddenly had a strong incentive to get his spending under control.
- Location
- Germany
Despite all his failings, Aerys left the realm with a full treasury. It took 15 years for Robert to piss all of that away and rack up those debts we know from canon.
That he is already that much in debt, with the one bank that he knows is part of the enemy and most likely unwilling to even give him a credit anymore makes me think that his spending is actually worse then in canon. Given the expenses necessary for magic, that would make sense.
He is probably millions in debt with the Lannisters and the Faith at this point.
- Location
- ?????????
[X] Azel
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
@Azel Do we want to go with +2 Valyrian Steel or +1 Adamantine armor for the Praetorians? The VS is cheaper and quicker, and carries a certain degree of prestige, while the Adamantine would take actual crafting time and the material itself, but would provide DR 3/-- to stack with that from their subdermal armor. Or is that not intended to stack with armor being worn?
- Location
- Germany
It shouldn't stack. Which is also why I'm quite attached to the NA +7.
So definitely VS.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
[X] Azel
Ah the tried and true method of "Watch my hands, kick to the nuts."
Ah the tried and true method of "Watch my hands, kick to the nuts."
- Location
- Argentina
While I apreciate the scheme, do we really need to cause this whole chaos to discredit king fatass?