What is a dragon rider use.

Tactically I mean?

We have draken beasts now for close air support. So...

Heavier close air support?

Fighting the enemies big baddies mano E dragono?

Terror weapons?

I like to think of it like everyone has muskets, and cannons, and even the odd Gatling gun.

And we just developed napalm.
 
So draken beasts have totally supplanted dragons then?

With the whole "fields of fire" thing being a far, far more effective tactic?
 
So draken beasts have totally supplanted dragons then?

With the whole "fields of fire" thing being a far, far more effective tactic?

Hmm as far as I know they don't have breath weapons? They are our flame throwers. They create some really nasty shit for the enemy, but if their payload gets pierced the beast and rider and everyone around it gets fucked.

The dragon has the bombing run napalm like attack that is available 1d4 rounds? And by bombing run I mean an cone like area.
 
So draken beasts have totally supplanted dragons then?

With the whole "fields of fire" thing being a far, far more effective tactic?
Not at all. Darkenbeasts are excellent support especially given their numbers, but Valyrian Dragons still outclass them in terms of size, speed, and damage via breathweapons.
 
Hmm as far as I know they don't have breath weapons? They are our flame throwers. They create some really nasty shit for the enemy, but if their payload gets pierced the beast and rider and everyone around it gets fucked.

The dragon has the bombing run napalm like attack that is available 1d4 rounds? And by bombing run I mean an cone like area.

Not at all. Darkenbeasts are excellent support especially given their numbers, but Valyrian Dragons still outclass them in terms of size, speed, and damage via breathweapons.
So the attack helicopter vs the ww2 bomber?
 
Hmm as far as I know they don't have breath weapons? They are our flame throwers. They create some really nasty shit for the enemy, but if their payload gets pierced the beast and rider and everyone around it gets fucked.

The dragon has the bombing run napalm like attack that is available 1d4 rounds? And by bombing run I mean an cone like area.
They have a fungal spore breathweapon and the ammunition isn't vulnerable. They carry the payloads in Hardened steel cannisters.
 
Oh come on have you seen the shit 10th circle magic can do we can permanently make a flying capital. Imagine the stepstones literally be flying.
Flying islands are pretty terrible from an economics perspective. All of a sudden you have it impossible for traders without flying ships to reach the Stepstones. We don't want that sort of limitation on our economy, especially since this would cripple Sorcerer's Deep. Not to mention the strategic hazard in the event that magic is ever turned off. A falling island kills everyone on it.

Also, the Old Gods? They will not like their weirwoods being uprooted, I can promise you that.
 
They have a fungal spore breathweapon and the ammunition isn't vulnerable. They carry the payloads in Hardened steel cannisters.

If you up can I ask you about...

Basically I noticed we still haven't gotten around to preparing for the deep ones conflict, or Tiamats... everything.

I had some ideas for hiring some mercenaries to pad out our sub nautical army, and one specific adventurer in mind for Tiamat.

Its just...

Selling these ideas to the thread is going to be about as much fun as shoving a steel pinecone up my ass, so I wanted to ask if you would mind checking them for glaring flaws.
 
Flying islands are pretty terrible from an economics perspective. All of a sudden you have it impossible for traders without flying ships to reach the Stepstones. We don't want that sort of limitation on our economy, especially since this would cripple Sorcerer's Deep. Not to mention the strategic hazard in the event that magic is ever turned off. A falling island kills everyone on it.

Also, the Old Gods? They will not like their weirwoods being uprooted, I can promise you that.
If magic ever turns off us as a dragon will literally have to leave this plane or put ourselves in stasis. Our empire would crumble.

Oh oh if we could make a mythal what would we do with it?

Could a mythal be made to guard against others?
 
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If magic ever turns off us as a dragon will literally have to leave this plane or put ourselves in stasis. Our empire would crumble.
Yes, but at the very least it wouldn't be an automatic death sentence for everyone in our capital if we make sure not to have a flying island capital city.
Oh oh if we could make a mythal what would we do with it?
No idea.

Also:
edit: So there is a non zero chance there is an actual Gold hiding under Sunfyres template.

Which would make Bahamuts job a fuckton easier...
No, Sunfyre is very much a Feral Red Dragon. All Valyrian Dragons are Feral Red Dragons. There are no surprise!metallics among them. The coloration is pure coincidence.
 
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@Azel, @Duesal, @enigma1995, @One Autumn Leaf, @Massgamer, @SeekerofLight, @mrsean22, @lican magus, @Artemis1992

Can I convince ya'll to change your vote to my plan? Azel's is mostly fine, but it's missing some stuff, like having Vee help us and taking measures to prevent Varys from Teleporting or Plane Shifting away.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Feb 1, 2019 at 4:33 AM, finished with 137 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Plan "Come Into My Larder" Said The Dragon To The Spider
    -[X] Nuri throws on a simple disguise and enters the plaza. She will use her performance skills to draw the attention of the crowd.
    -[X] Meanwhile Viserys keeps Scrying Varys and coordinates with Aradia to locate him.
    -[X] If Varys tries to hide in the crowd:
    --[X] Once Aradia has visual contact, Viserys and Dany will approach him on foot, hiding among the people until they are close enough to attack him.
    -[X] If he tries to flee:
    --[X] Aradia trails him while looking for a good moment to strike without too nany witnesses.
    --[X] Greater Teleport to him with Dany.
    -[X] Dany fires a Greater Dispel, then Dreamcast a Quickened Dispel at his equipment according to her gut feeling. She uses an Immediate action for Alter Fortune to help Viserys.
    -[X] Viserys uses Smoky Confinement, Celerity, Baleful Polymorph.
    [X] Plan "Come Into My Larder" Said The Dragon To The Spider MK II
    -[X] Nuri throws on a simple disguise and enters the plaza. She will use her performance skills to draw the attention of the crowd.
    -[X] Meanwhile Viserys keeps Scrying Varys and coordinates with Aradia and Dany (in Silver Wyrmling form) to locate him. Aradia casts Invisibility on herself and Dany.
    -[X] If Varys tries to hide in the crowd:
    --[X] Once Aradia or Dany have visual contact, Viserys and Vee will approach him on foot, hiding among the people until they are close enough to attack him. They will each use their Greater Ribbons of Disguise to alter their appearance to resemble stereotypical Braavosi citizens.
    --[X] Dany activates her Bead of Karma to increase her caster level by +4, uses the Blackened Rod to Dreamcast a Quickened True Strike spell, then target Varys with a Dimensional Anchor spell just before Viserys and Vee attack.
    -[X] If Varys tries to flee:
    --[X] Aradia trails him Invisibly while Dany targets him with a Quickened Barbed Chains spell, followed by Dimensional Anchor if she hasn't already done so.
    --[X] Viserys uses Greater Teleport to transport himself and Vee to Varys' location.
    -[X] Vee, having activated her Bead of Karma to increase her caster level by +4 when she and Viserys moved into the crowd, uses a charge from her Amulet to increase her Dispel check bonus by +2. She hits Varys with a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic (with a +20 bonus to the Dispel check) spell, then. She uses an Immediate action for Alter Fortune to help Viserys.
    -[X] If Viserys is able to get close enough to Varys, he uses Wild Arcana to duplicate a Smoky Confinement spell, or if not, an Amber Sarcophagus spell to capture him. If that fails, he uses Celerity to make another attempt.
    --[X] If Varys attempts to cast a spell, Viserys uses his Spell-Singer's Ring to Counterspell it.
    [X] Use Blood Wish to mimic the effects of Circle Dance until you are certain who he is
 
Does the northern wall work like a mythal as it seems to be a huge deterrent to the others? What level of artifact is the wall even considered and how the fuck did bron or is it bran make it what was bron a cr 30 crafter pc?

Yes, but at the very least it wouldn't be an automatic death sentence for everyone in our capital if we make sure not to have a flying island capital city.

No idea.

Also:

No, Sunfyre is very much a Feral Red Dragon. All Valyrian Dragons are Feral Red Dragons. There are no surprise!metallics among them. The coloration is pure coincidence.
The moment magic dies they are no longer law abiding citizen s and so deserve death :p
 
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They carry the payloads in Hardened steel cannisters.

Now that Tarly has seen the move in action he might ask questions and get enough information to crack that nut.

I'm sure if you thought about it you be able to come up with a way to get the cannisters to explode. DP will as well.

[X] Goldfish
 
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Hardened steel canisters break when dropped?
Now that Tarly has seen the move in action he might ask questions and get enough information to crack that nut.

I'm sure if you thought about it you be able to come up with a way to get the cannisters to explode. DP will as well.

[X] Goldfish
The cannisters don't break. They are just for storage and dispense the payload when triggered while staying attached to the barding.

And anything strong enough to pierce the cannisters could kill the rider or Darkenbeast anyway, so the point is moot.
 
If the Barbed Chains causes people to yell about Devils, I called it.

[X] Goldfish

You're no fun. Here, Barbed Chains replaced with Ice Slick.

[X] Plan "Come Into My Larder" Said The Dragon To The Spider MK II
-[X] Nuri throws on a simple disguise and enters the plaza. She will use her performance skills to draw the attention of the crowd.
-[X] Meanwhile Viserys keeps Scrying Varys and coordinates with Aradia and Dany (in Silver Wyrmling form) to locate him. Aradia casts Invisibility on herself and Dany.
-[X] If Varys tries to hide in the crowd:
--[X] Once Aradia or Dany have visual contact, Viserys and Vee will approach him on foot, hiding among the people until they are close enough to attack him. They will each use their Greater Ribbons of Disguise to alter their appearance to resemble stereotypical Braavosi citizens.
--[X] Dany activates her Bead of Karma to increase her caster level by +4, uses the Blackened Rod to Dreamcast a Quickened True Strike spell, then target Varys with a Dimensional Anchor spell just before Viserys and Vee attack.
-[X] If Varys tries to flee:
--[X] Aradia trails him Invisibly while Dany targets him with a Quickened Ice Slick spell, followed by Dimensional Anchor if she hasn't already done so.
--[X] Viserys uses Greater Teleport to transport himself and Vee to Varys' location.
-[X] Vee, having activated her Bead of Karma to increase her caster level by +4 when she and Viserys moved into the crowd, uses a charge from her Amulet to increase her Dispel check bonus by +2. She hits Varys with a Targeted Greater Dispel Magic (with a +20 bonus to the Dispel check) spell, then. She uses an Immediate action for Alter Fortune to help Viserys.
-[X] If Viserys is able to get close enough to Varys, he uses Wild Arcana to duplicate a Smoky Confinement spell, or if not, an Amber Sarcophagus spell to capture him. If that fails, he uses Celerity to make another attempt.
--[X] If Varys attempts to cast a spell, Viserys uses his Spell-Singer's Ring to Counterspell it.
 
[X] Plan "Come Into My Larder" Said The Dragon To The Spider MK II


In azels defense we are dealing with people also known as idiots. There is no group more ignorant than people.
 
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If you up can I ask you about...

Basically I noticed we still haven't gotten around to preparing for the deep ones conflict, or Tiamats... everything.

I had some ideas for hiring some mercenaries to pad out our sub nautical army, and one specific adventurer in mind for Tiamat.

Its just...

Selling these ideas to the thread is going to be about as much fun as shoving a steel pinecone up my ass, so I wanted to ask if you would mind checking them for glaring flaws.
I'm rather busy today. If you want my input, it would be best if you PM me your pitch.
 
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