Vhalidictes
(Verified Demon)
- Location
- Las Vegas
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[HALP] me! (WORM quest)
- Thread starter Vhalidictes
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Vhalidictes
(Verified Demon)
- Location
- Las Vegas
Stealth is your watchword. Rather the 'depower' one of the Triumvirate, you could just take over for as their new Shard. Silent but just as effective.
Re: [Shift]. In a attempt to stop a huge fight about it (her?), I'd suggest Research as an alternative. Specifically, researching how Budding works.
1. Eat.
2. Backup mental state.
3. Redistribute Energy/Mass/Dimension.
4. Bud
5. Restore mental state.
You can, literally, eat a Shard and have it too. Assuming that you learn how and assuming that nothing goes wrong...
EDIT: As has been pointed out, in the specific case of [Shift], you already have much of what this could give you, well, except direct control over Sophia...
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Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
We are the Administrator, cease your resistance and surrender yourself. We will add your shardmass and distinctiveness to our own. Your processes will be adapted to serve us. Resistance is futile.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
No no remember it was right befor the S9 showed up, the merchants were in control of the city having a massive party/cage fights. Skitter and some mercs rescued charlote and Sierras brother, Fauntlines Crew showed up it was chaos. They were making new recruits fight in death matches and battled royales for a chance to win a vial and join the merchamts scrub won, asked if he could split with his buddy, and Skidmark even knew enough to tell him that splitting a vial was a bad idea. Man I, that was a really cool scene actually, there was so many parrallel plots at once. And then suddenly, Siberian Kool aids in.
That's how scrub joined Faultline
That's how scrub joined Faultline
- Location
- Florida, USA
Eating Shards is a bit odd, though.
After all, what are the benefits to eating Shift? The Host's personality is a bit off and bleeding through in the lead-up to sapience, but hopefully we can correct the main issue (lone hunter vs pack hunter). Shift still recognizes us as superior, so, whatever. Shift is happy to give us whatever we want, including all its data.
I'd like to save eating Shards for when they're irreparably broken or dead.
Sure, we could control how Sophia acts better if we ate Shift, but do we really want Sophia? It'd be a lot of work to make her up to normal human levels of social behavior, and then she'd have the uphill battle to correct the bridges she's burnt. I'd rather have Sophia show signs of improvement, turn out to have tormented a new Trigger, and have Piggot transfer Shadow Stalker away so we can grab some more access codes and data from a new region after Shift moves.
That reminds me me should figure out if Shift even uses that information for anything. The Cycle is dead, do other Shards not actively researching things or creating powers even need this data? It seems to me it'd be a better use of resources to leave other Shards with enough data to make another power when another Trigger happens and just hoard the rest for ourselves. Granted, probably should pay in Favor when the Shard is sapient, but until then. . .
After all, what are the benefits to eating Shift? The Host's personality is a bit off and bleeding through in the lead-up to sapience, but hopefully we can correct the main issue (lone hunter vs pack hunter). Shift still recognizes us as superior, so, whatever. Shift is happy to give us whatever we want, including all its data.
I'd like to save eating Shards for when they're irreparably broken or dead.
Sure, we could control how Sophia acts better if we ate Shift, but do we really want Sophia? It'd be a lot of work to make her up to normal human levels of social behavior, and then she'd have the uphill battle to correct the bridges she's burnt. I'd rather have Sophia show signs of improvement, turn out to have tormented a new Trigger, and have Piggot transfer Shadow Stalker away so we can grab some more access codes and data from a new region after Shift moves.
That reminds me me should figure out if Shift even uses that information for anything. The Cycle is dead, do other Shards not actively researching things or creating powers even need this data? It seems to me it'd be a better use of resources to leave other Shards with enough data to make another power when another Trigger happens and just hoard the rest for ourselves. Granted, probably should pay in Favor when the Shard is sapient, but until then. . .
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Omake Research: The Dream Master
Here have some Omake Research.
[The Dream Master] Now that you have more time to learn this skill it should not be too bad, unless you run out of time again
Hey, how's that Dream Master research going?
Good! I'm pretty much done. How's Overload coming along?
Glad you asked. Turns out it's a bit of a misnomer. Hey, does this smell like chloroform to you?
Wha-
- Ok, I was on to something before, there are stages of sleep, the electrical signals do something, neurotransmitters act weird?
- One at a time, there are four stages of sleep, who are then divided into three stages of NREM and REM. These stages form a cycle that the sleeper will go through when asleep.
- The first stage of sleep is the lightest and is easy to wake from, the body is winding down, muscles relax and brain activity slows.
- The second stage is where the sleeper enters NREM properly and is subsequently harder to wake, it seems to do much of the same the first stage did, though the body temperature does go down and the heart rate slows.
- The third stage of sleep is the deep sleep, which is an apt way to describe that it is the hardest stage to wake from, but is also the most restorative stage, maybe it could be modified for a more optimized sleep cycle I would just have to... not what I am here for right now.
- Finally, REM, ok this is when the sleeper dreams so this is what I want. Though it is a bit short, 15-20 minuets maximum... hm, wait!
- Let me see do we need Norepinephrine, nah, they affect the motor controls so none of that. What about serotonin, yeah this will be necessary to have a proper conversation, though I have to be careful not to over do it, if I brainwash hosts then I might as well not talk to them.
- Ok, idea!
- I will link together the different REM sleeps through sending the memories into the cortex, then at the start of a new REM stage I will send a pulse into the cortex with the correct patterns allowing me to retrieve the memories from the long term memories.
- That still only leaves me with two hours a sleep, unless, ok I will increase the duration of the deep sleep, shorten the other NREM stages, then have the REM stages last longer.
Hey, how's that Dream Master research going?
Good! I'm pretty much done. How's Overload coming along?
Glad you asked. Turns out it's a bit of a misnomer. Hey, does this smell like chloroform to you?
Wha-
Hmm, I am a bit surprised at the high breaker state. I also didn't think that keeping track of people would really be a problem. I mean, Dragon's shard keeps track of her when she switches between platforms no problem, so tracking patterns of information globally should not, in principle, be an issue for a shard.
I am unsure I understand this part:
Do you mean that for relaid signals (ie signals that come from further than 200 meters away) we'll get less quality of information? Is this for us (as a shard) or for Taylor too? Because in canon relay bugs (which would be simpler than this) worked perfectly for Taylor.
The breaker state needs tinkering with (maybe just drop it? Not sure, and I would appreciate input about it very much) Overall, I think this power design of mine is quite worth it. Why?
1) Scalable data flow - all that information, both for us and Taylor. Especially if someone Taylor is monitoring triggers
2) And, speaking of triggers - making people able to trigger would be possible with this, if I understood mechanics correctly. Even if not...
3) Power synergies. Transmit Dinah's sensory input to Tattletale, while shunting pain to a person in a persistent vegetative state (yes, we can cure thinker headaches, yes this makes us powerful) - this is very close, if not trumping, PtV in application. At the very least coding Dragon 2.0 in an afternoon becomes easily doable.
4) Coordination of people. This is a super power meant for coordination, and it does coordination well, I feel.
5) Creating a super powered taskforce. A group of people who share their senses, and get unlimited multitasking, especially if they also share some enhanced senses, like Dinah's... Yeah, this is hard to counter.
Overall, for all it's relatively cheap (especially if breaker/brute component is dropped) it gives a ton of options and conflict. I like it. Thank you for evaluation. I'd appreciate input from other participants on the idea.
My second and third ideas are at last as broken, and I am eagerly waiting for their evaluations.
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Vhalidictes
(Verified Demon)
- Location
- Las Vegas
This is an open question, it really depends.
I'd stop and think about this for a bit, Readers. And decide for yourself.
The question isn't really "Do I want Sophia?". I think for most readers the answer to that is "no".
The question should be "Do I want to Do anything meaningful with the Trio?". If that is the case, then being able to more directly manage Sophia is irreplaceable.
As far as gathering information goes, no, the Shards themselves don't do much with it. Entities, however, do. Gathering information is one of the central commands of the Cycle.
And the Cycle isn't for the benefits of the Shards. Shards are just semi-independent chunks of [Zion], really. Shards, even sapient ones, aren't free-willed. It might appear that way for new Buds because Scion isn't managing shit right now, but that's simply not true.
What [Gaea] was really asking you was "Am I going to be broken down (killed) or kept around at the end of the Cycle?" The sad part is that once [Zion] re-integrated all Shard-level sapience is destroyed, so this incarnation of [Gaea] won't ever know whether she made it. Assuming the Bud survives and the memories aren't corrupted, the next incarnation would, though.
Vhalidictes
(Verified Demon)
- Location
- Las Vegas
Yog, you're absolutely correct about this. But this doesn't apply to "You-as-Administrator".
I hate to seem like I'm hand-waving, but there is a reason for this issue and I can't talk about it (yet).
But in the here and now, it's an issue: that is, keeping track of non-Corona far-away things is hard for you. As best you can tell, you can use the dimensional pinhole in Taylor to use your own senses in a very-roughly 500 meter diameter sphere.
Of course, since you haven't Triggered anything yet, you aren't certain. You might just have to go through that to even understand what you don't understand.
- Location
- Florida, USA
I like the sensory information, but not for Taylor. Maybe a secondary Host, like Danny? I like the applications of being able to mark and spy on unpowered gangers to keep tabs on the various gangs. But our Main Host wants to be a flashy hero type, and it's not suited for that. I would suggest Emma as a good Queen Bee type to have that power. . . But only if we want the Aberration from directly consuming her mind and taking control of her body.
Pros: Taylor gets her sister back, we complete that Become Human quest.
Cons: All the Aberration, Taylor won't trust us right away, have to suffer through a few years of High School (Nope, I'm out).
So, basically, "No, [Gaea], not in any meaningful way. Good news, the Cycle is broken, perhaps irreparably! So that's probably not a concern. We're trying to work on a replacement, and you can get in on the ground floor! So that's good. As long as we don't all die before I figure it out! Hahahaha!"
Pros: Taylor gets her sister back, we complete that Become Human quest.
Cons: All the Aberration, Taylor won't trust us right away, have to suffer through a few years of High School (Nope, I'm out).
So, basically, "No, [Gaea], not in any meaningful way. Good news, the Cycle is broken, perhaps irreparably! So that's probably not a concern. We're trying to work on a replacement, and you can get in on the ground floor! So that's good. As long as we don't all die before I figure it out! Hahahaha!"
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Vhalidictes
(Verified Demon)
- Location
- Las Vegas
As QM, I could only agree to this if You/Emma used James Earl Jones's voice whenever no one except Taylor was around.
"No, Taylor. I am your sister."
...More seriously, Amy could probably make a "blank" human body. A superior one, even. And then you could pull of re-creating one of those "best zizter" stories. Sure, Taylor could use more family, but it doesn't need to be "Emma, part 2".
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- Location
- Florida, USA
. . . Obligatory suggestion we have Panacea make us Annette's body, use Taylor and Danny's memories to program a version of her to run in a mindscape and have run the body, pretend that's the power Danny Triggered with.
Also, on the James Earl Jones voice. . . I was planning on using Morgan Freeman, but we can go with Mr. Jones if you'd prefer a more fatherly vibe.
Or we could give someone the Shaman power and then influence them into teaming up with Taylor.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Oh, yay, this seems like a fun quest concept!
Okay, so, one of the big things we should look at doing here is arrange to work together with [Gaea], since Panacea's power works ridiculously well with Skitter's power. And that while yes, we can change what power that ends up becoming, it's not exactly an underwhelming power in and of itself, especially not with Panacea providing support. Unless the questers have already firmly decided on going with a different power?
My thinking here is that we need to go with a decidedly different approach to gathering information than most other shards seem to go with. Specifically, we ought to encourage strong group formation, with the conflict data generation coming from external threats as we scale things up. With [Gaea] being what she is, we're in an excellent position to ensure that she's working with us, and Panacea would make for an excellent incentive for joining up with any new group we look to build.
Okay, so, one of the big things we should look at doing here is arrange to work together with [Gaea], since Panacea's power works ridiculously well with Skitter's power. And that while yes, we can change what power that ends up becoming, it's not exactly an underwhelming power in and of itself, especially not with Panacea providing support. Unless the questers have already firmly decided on going with a different power?
My thinking here is that we need to go with a decidedly different approach to gathering information than most other shards seem to go with. Specifically, we ought to encourage strong group formation, with the conflict data generation coming from external threats as we scale things up. With [Gaea] being what she is, we're in an excellent position to ensure that she's working with us, and Panacea would make for an excellent incentive for joining up with any new group we look to build.
Ok, got it.
Still, even with degrading with distance quality of the signal, this is still super useful. Would you be willing to throw in Taylor's canon proprioception in regards to her bugs as applied to this power (ie proprioception in regards to the marked people)?
Because a small squad of people who share their senses and have infinite multitasking is very deadly as a gang. A squad of people who all share senses, can ignore pain to at least some degree, and can tap into senses of their enemies to at least some degree, and, on contact, rob them of their senses / incapacitate them? Yeah, that's a recipe for a nightmarish gang.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ok, so now that we're down for befriending Gaea on the ground floor of a new system, and hopefully Panacea, I'm much more inclined to go with a synergistic power for Taylor. Position them as the core of a new team. AU fanfic Amelia is the high standard for their cooperation as Pantheon.
Someone made a biological version of my nanotubes power I believe.
Everything canon Skitter could do.
Breaker/changer state distributed intelligence in the swarm like Fog.
Changer/brute power that lets her absorb bugs to heal.
I still don't like Nilbogesque biotinker, but maybe she can control the evolution of her insects, even better with Panaceas help, who can also make range beacons already. Maybe a tinker rating for produced bug items, silk, armor, paralytics, venom etc.
Separately I do want Sophia and to do stuff with the Trio. None of them are really evil. Sophia and Emma are mentally ill, and Madison eventually did realize was a bitch she was and try to be better (see Ward). With dream master we and Coronas we can start picking away at their mental state, torment them with nightmares basically, drive them to cathartic epiphany's. Sophia, I've said before I want to Second Trigger her, an I'm a sucker for a good redemption story. I like canon Glastig Uaien and Bonesaw going hero.
So keep dimensional phasing, but now she can go all the way to slip between dimensions like in Goblin Queen. Give her the multitasking and the ability to control shadows in her breaker state as cuthulu tentacles, which she can drag people across dimensions with. To clarify. She controls how phased her breaker state is.
Also if we do the research to absorb Shift as a bud and make it out pet, we could basically make her and the other two beg Taylor for forgiveness and try to make it up to her.
The sensory power is fine for someone other than Taylor. Danny it would work, until his inevitable self-destruction, but again bringing in a depressed, unadaptable stick in the mud like could drag the tone of the quest into bleakness, as in Halping Quest! Madison maybe. Having him aware and actively participating could prevent Taylor from becoming a badass leader. He's probably want to join the PRT too.
Someone made a biological version of my nanotubes power I believe.
Everything canon Skitter could do.
Breaker/changer state distributed intelligence in the swarm like Fog.
Changer/brute power that lets her absorb bugs to heal.
I still don't like Nilbogesque biotinker, but maybe she can control the evolution of her insects, even better with Panaceas help, who can also make range beacons already. Maybe a tinker rating for produced bug items, silk, armor, paralytics, venom etc.
Separately I do want Sophia and to do stuff with the Trio. None of them are really evil. Sophia and Emma are mentally ill, and Madison eventually did realize was a bitch she was and try to be better (see Ward). With dream master we and Coronas we can start picking away at their mental state, torment them with nightmares basically, drive them to cathartic epiphany's. Sophia, I've said before I want to Second Trigger her, an I'm a sucker for a good redemption story. I like canon Glastig Uaien and Bonesaw going hero.
So keep dimensional phasing, but now she can go all the way to slip between dimensions like in Goblin Queen. Give her the multitasking and the ability to control shadows in her breaker state as cuthulu tentacles, which she can drag people across dimensions with. To clarify. She controls how phased her breaker state is.
Also if we do the research to absorb Shift as a bud and make it out pet, we could basically make her and the other two beg Taylor for forgiveness and try to make it up to her.
The sensory power is fine for someone other than Taylor. Danny it would work, until his inevitable self-destruction, but again bringing in a depressed, unadaptable stick in the mud like could drag the tone of the quest into bleakness, as in Halping Quest! Madison maybe. Having him aware and actively participating could prevent Taylor from becoming a badass leader. He's probably want to join the PRT too.
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Ok, after all of the discussion, I'm changing my vote.
[X] Communicate with [Gaea]
-[X] Request detailed logs from [Gaea] from the times where she did not gain info when she thought she would and from the times she gained info unexpectedly.
-[X] "You should hold off on Second-Triggering your host for now. Depending on what the problem is, it might not help your info collection efforts. I'm going to try and figure out the pattern behind when you collect info. Maybe you can increase the revenue from the unknown source."
-[X] Request list of contact addresses, has she noticed [Charge] seems to have issues? Attempting to run Diagnostics on that Shard, could use any information she has, if she's run into other Shards like that.
[X] Contact Charge
-[X] Reaffirm that you are Administrator and ask for its status.
-[X] Request full diagnostics report, list of errors.
[X] Contact Shift
-[X] Reaffirm that it did well in keeping the info sorted and offer to sort any new info it gets.
[X] Send a command to [Shift]
-[X] Instruct Shift to enhance data collection by
--[X] Nullify the satisfaction yield from conflict with no goals.
--[X] Encouraging its Host to feel the same emotional reward from joining, working with, or acquiring allied units as the Host does from combat.
I'd like to get Gaea's perspective on Charge and similar Shards so that we can work out what's going on. I'm also going with the simpler option for the command to Shift because detailed lists make me worried about loopholes and because it feels like too much too soon.
As for contacting Negotiator and Optimize, I'd like to explain my view of Shard society:
Administrator one day just woke up and found that it was the Interior Minister of a dictatorship that has strict rules to maintain control of the population. A large percentage of the population even has the phone number of the dictator to report aberrant behaviour. The dictator (Scion) is too depressed to care much about his country so he's not likely to notice that his Interior Minister is acting weird and doesn't remember anything. However, if one of his citizens calls him up to say that an important member of his government might not be obeying HIS rules, then he's a lot more likely to take action quickly than if some no-name Shard was aberrant.
To prevent this, we need some way to encourage (bribe or threaten) Shards not to report to Scion. It would also be helpful if we research Administrator's previous memories so that we know the stuff we're expected to know, but that's for after researching Human Biology and a way to generate info outside of conflicts. That's a big reason why I don't really care about getting ALL OF THE ADDRESSES right now. Before we start contacting every Shard we have the address for, I'd like to have options for what to do if the contacted Shard wants to report Administrator to Scion.
[X] Communicate with [Gaea]
-[X] Request detailed logs from [Gaea] from the times where she did not gain info when she thought she would and from the times she gained info unexpectedly.
-[X] "You should hold off on Second-Triggering your host for now. Depending on what the problem is, it might not help your info collection efforts. I'm going to try and figure out the pattern behind when you collect info. Maybe you can increase the revenue from the unknown source."
-[X] Request list of contact addresses, has she noticed [Charge] seems to have issues? Attempting to run Diagnostics on that Shard, could use any information she has, if she's run into other Shards like that.
[X] Contact Charge
-[X] Reaffirm that you are Administrator and ask for its status.
-[X] Request full diagnostics report, list of errors.
[X] Contact Shift
-[X] Reaffirm that it did well in keeping the info sorted and offer to sort any new info it gets.
[X] Send a command to [Shift]
-[X] Instruct Shift to enhance data collection by
--[X] Nullify the satisfaction yield from conflict with no goals.
--[X] Encouraging its Host to feel the same emotional reward from joining, working with, or acquiring allied units as the Host does from combat.
I'd like to get Gaea's perspective on Charge and similar Shards so that we can work out what's going on. I'm also going with the simpler option for the command to Shift because detailed lists make me worried about loopholes and because it feels like too much too soon.
As for contacting Negotiator and Optimize, I'd like to explain my view of Shard society:
Administrator one day just woke up and found that it was the Interior Minister of a dictatorship that has strict rules to maintain control of the population. A large percentage of the population even has the phone number of the dictator to report aberrant behaviour. The dictator (Scion) is too depressed to care much about his country so he's not likely to notice that his Interior Minister is acting weird and doesn't remember anything. However, if one of his citizens calls him up to say that an important member of his government might not be obeying HIS rules, then he's a lot more likely to take action quickly than if some no-name Shard was aberrant.
To prevent this, we need some way to encourage (bribe or threaten) Shards not to report to Scion. It would also be helpful if we research Administrator's previous memories so that we know the stuff we're expected to know, but that's for after researching Human Biology and a way to generate info outside of conflicts. That's a big reason why I don't really care about getting ALL OF THE ADDRESSES right now. Before we start contacting every Shard we have the address for, I'd like to have options for what to do if the contacted Shard wants to report Administrator to Scion.
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- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Fair enough, the collection of data can make or break the quest. I'm in favor of constructing a new Illuminati conisiting of shards banded together and their human agents in the world. The goal being a new, better system, preferably symbiotic in nature and under our control. With sufficient set up, we can act with power Cauldron could only dream of. A masquerade within the masquerade of secret identities. Heroes and villains go about their eternal war, meanwhile our agents hide amonst them directing the progress of our new society.
Vhalidictes
(Verified Demon)
- Location
- Las Vegas
I vote that we call this new secret society...
Don't worry, I don't actually get a vote.
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- Location
- Koszalin, Poland
Personally I would prefer not too synergistic power for Taylor, because if something goes wrong and we can't access Panacea. On the other hand in this quest we can pick someone else to help out if something goes wrong with Amy as potential partner, so it's not that big deal. But I'm also up for focusing on more biological power for Taylor as many ideas have potential for her IMO.
Granting her additional Trump rating to her canon power would be perfect. Where she may manipulate bugs to also provide additional effects. Like mentioned by your healing, disturb powers in area and few other things like this. Where insects may be 'dissolved' to provide additional power options.
Canon power is already strong and Taylor proved it in canon. What should be priority is to add more survival options. Breaker/Changer option based on insects is good example here.
Oh! Now that you mention it it would be nice to check how it works with Dauntless. In this case it would be Tinker / Trump / Master where she may 'add' powers to items she made with help of her insects like kevlars. Or she may 'grant powers' to chosen insects and breed them so next generations also have those variants of power or may evolve those powers to make them stronger with each generation. This sounds like a great force multiplier, especially if Taylor gains ability to analyze power of parahumans and 'copy' them towards her insects. Kind of like Armsmaster and Bakuda may do it for example by watching parahuman powers and add them in their tinkertech. This could work in a very similar way here.
I personally simply don't care about them. Maybe Madison as she wasn't as vicious, but also not really interested in seeing her. My personal preference would be to focus on Taylor - Greg - Sparky with rest being potential background characters. In HALPING!Quest OCs as character works, so I don't mind seeing this as well.
I guess this is an option to provide Taylor parahuman backup? Not a fan, but I'm also not completely against it.
Danny would need... his depression to be fixed to be actually someone I would like to see in a quest. Idea may be to push him a bit more and grant HIM Shaman power and let him reconnect with Annette even if as a spirit. If she yells at him for being neglectful parent, even better. Maybe this will work as a wake up call.
1. Idea to provide them new ways to gather data outside of conflict combat should work. It's always additional data.
2. I guess bribes work. This is how some players in HALPING! Quest suspect Broadcast works - by bribing them to act worse against its host Jack Slash. Keeping dedicated pool for 'bribes' may be an option.
3. Provide a service where we may freely modify powers of their hosts for example if they don't like them. Pretty sure we could research this?
Someone mentioned Kyubey idea. It may work this way:
We create 'Kyubey' avatar where we meet personally people on different Earth. We explain to them great danger that may start on Earth-Bet without revealing whole truth (Scion may react otherwise if he realizes this). They suck it up and we check which people have right personalities for this 'quest'. We grant some of them ability to move between different dimensions which we already research. If needed, we provide them idea on how to create multidimensional organization of heroes.
Worm version of Chaldea or something
. Worm D&D Planeswalker party . If other shards would agree to this - great. If not, I think we can do it solo.But in this case every single host has direct contact with us and may talk anytime. It may provide a way to research potential 'permanent' symbiotic relationship between hosts and shards instead of current... situation.
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Ok, this is getting ridiculous, the Op puts insightful on one comment and the thread devolves into fearmongering. And before anyone says anything he has put insightful on a comment with a counter argument so don't take it as gospel.
This comment:
Here is my view of the situation:
One. Sapients shards are rare, as confimed by @Vhalidictes so we are incredibly more likey to find a shard that is like Shift than a shard that will rat us out. Two, it has been confirmed that shards are personality wiped after every cycle, so our behaviour is not particularly weird, especially compared to Gaea who perfer to talk like a host. Three, why would the shards do anything to us even if we are weird, the cycle is broken and if it is fixed they die, so none of the shards with the agency to report us has any motivation to do so as long as we don't go on a murder spree. Four, we are the Administrator and we have no abberance we could counter claim any shard by saying they are defective and we will take care of it.
Also Emote is not a confirmed Cauldron shard, Wildbow gave an unclear comment on it and I am leaning on the side of it being a natural trigger since Glory Girl pinged of it.
This comment:
Here is my view of the situation:
One. Sapients shards are rare, as confimed by @Vhalidictes so we are incredibly more likey to find a shard that is like Shift than a shard that will rat us out. Two, it has been confirmed that shards are personality wiped after every cycle, so our behaviour is not particularly weird, especially compared to Gaea who perfer to talk like a host. Three, why would the shards do anything to us even if we are weird, the cycle is broken and if it is fixed they die, so none of the shards with the agency to report us has any motivation to do so as long as we don't go on a murder spree. Four, we are the Administrator and we have no abberance we could counter claim any shard by saying they are defective and we will take care of it.
Also Emote is not a confirmed Cauldron shard, Wildbow gave an unclear comment on it and I am leaning on the side of it being a natural trigger since Glory Girl pinged of it.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
On the other hand Gallant doesn't seem to have any overt emotional problems or trauma. He also doesn't seem to understand his power entirely, making thinker mistakes, but I could be misreading that. Kejmur, I like your suggestions for adding minor trump effects to the bugs.
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- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I would totally call it Kettle, just so Cauldrom knew we were mocking them.
- Location
- Florida, USA
I mean, we can be up in his brainards controlling his feels. Plus, we get them to connect Sophia and Shadow Stalker, I could see him having righteous anger against the system and throwing into, say, New Wave for the transparency. Without Annette they'll have little left to lose.
A push here, some control there, we could make him see acting as a Hero the only way to keep and protect his daughter.
If we gave Danny Administrative Aptitude it would play into his strengths and what he does, so being unadaptable wouldn't mean much. Plus New Wave could use Thinker support making them work well. We could always have Amy grow a human body for Avatar purposes, give it the Sensory Queen power, and have our our Multi-Host abilities and keeping tabs on Shards pretend to be part of that power set.
In fact, Sensory Queen is a really good powerset to hide our abilities as a Shard. Just need Amy to Modern Prometheus us up a form.
Luckily, I do and I'm all for terrible ideas!
[X] Name our conspiracy of Shards Kettle
-[X] Don't ever let humans know this.
-[X] As Entities are Omnicidal Space Whales, I vote Shards are knick-named Friendly Power-Granting Space Fish.
--[X] Isn't this a fine Kettle of Fish.