And my question is How do we know it's contacting Zion unless we change the address?
We only knew Equilibrium changed her address because we were intercepting the pings to Zion.
There's nothing to say we would have known they were contacting Zion without the address being already changed.
And my question is How do we know it's contacting Zion unless we change the address?
We only knew Equilibrium changed her address because we were intercepting the pings to Zion.
There's nothing to say we would have known they were contacting Zion without the address being already changed.
Ok, I went back and read the chapter. It looks like we suspected that Equilibrium would contact Zion but didn't actually know whether it did until we changed the address. So I'm now changing the line to, "-[] If Shard is hostile, replace Zion's address with the maintenance address."
Edit: Also, OMG, could our Votes get any more complicated?
Can we please stop nesting if functions in our votes and do one thing per day instead of listing twelve under each Shard? My gods.
Vhalidictes has said that more detailed plans are better. I prefer to limit the number of plans instead of making shorter plans and then having to contact Shards over and over again to accomplish everything.
Also, plan/option detail is one of my criteria when deciding tie-breakers. More detail is almost always better - I read very quickly and a long and rambling plan isn't a problem.
Taylor is watching an image of herself playing a board game with Danny. They're both having a lot of fun and enjoying spending time together.
After a bit of this, the image of Taylor seems to be thinking hard for a minute before resolving herself to act. She tells her father that she's glad that they could spend time together because they've been so distant from each other for so long. She also admits that she hasn't had anyone else to turn to because something is wrong with Emma. Emma is not her friend any more and has instead been bullying her and getting the other girls at school to bully her too. She's tried to get the school to do something, but nothing seems to work and she doesn't know what to do any more.
Danny hugs Taylor and tells her that she's his number one priority, and he's going to do whatever it takes to help her.
Taylor dreams herself at a computer with the browser open to a "Design Your Own Cape Powers" website. The front page is filled with the ideas from the Power Design threadmark listed as designs created by previous visitors. At the bottom of the page, there's a link to start the process. This process actually takes you to the rules behind designing cape powers, which matches our own rules for giving out cape powers. It also mentions that there will be limits on the various info types to see how creative the designers can be. She can rate other user's designs or make her own.
Dream about Taylor/Claire, being friends, hanging out.
Data
►Commit to coming back to now and sharing Time Travel with your past self if/when you acquire Time Travel in the future. Try not to think about potential paradoxes. Inevitably think about paradoxes. (5 For/1 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt, ccstat, Retrueno, TigerTitian)/(The_GrandMage)
Search for information about data collection and what Shards do with it, broken or whole. Will anyone react badly if we go around collecting everyone's data? (3 For/0 Against) (Mount. Elements, ccstat, The_GrandMage)
Search for information about Safeguard, Optimize, Integrate, Appropriate, and Reconstitute. We should find out as much as we can about the other Shards QA contacted. (1 For/2 Against) (Mount. Elements)/(ccstat, The_GrandMage)
Search about alternative information currency gathering methods that don't involve conflict. What works and what doesn't? (2 For/0 Against) (Mount. Elements, ccstat)
Search data for dates of past interactions with QA, and what they did. (2 For/1 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt)/(ccstat)
Search for data on how Zion and Eden shards interact. (3 For/0 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt, ccstat)
Search for information on third entity, Abbadon. (3 For/1 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt, ccstat)/(The_GrandMage)
Search for rules about how Tinkertech works and about letting hosts gain actual knowledge of advanced tech. (2 For/2 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt)/(ccstat, The_GrandMage)
Search data for information about what's going on with Charge and how to fix it. (4 For/0 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt, ccstat, The_GrandMage)
Search for information on how to properly diagnose and fix damaged shards. (3 For/1 Against) (Gino, Captain Hunt, ccstat)/(The_GrandMage)
Ask about how involved with her Host she is. (3 For/1 Against)
Discuss Research, what we have, what she has.
Ask Negotiator to use Dream Master to tell Lisa to keep track of the three girls who ate a challenger (So as to make it easier to form the new team later on)
Ask Negotiator to use Dream Master to tell Lisa to write down anything it wants us to know, but can't directly tell us because of restrictions
Watch closely in Winslow, try to bleed through getting tired of being bullied if Emma faces her. Use multiple instances. (3 For/0 Agianst) (Retrueno, The_GrandMage, TigerTitian)
Try to bleed through checking Hero's wiki page to see what Capes were around him to try and find Addresses. Use multiple instances. (1 For/0 Against) (Retrueno)
►Host 1 - Veronica Stansfield (Valiant)
►Host 2 - "Lilac" (Tinker Formerly Known as Trainwreck)
The thing about the gamer power is that people conflate the gamer power with the magic system from the comic-world it originated on, things like elementals, mana use, and dungeon creation aren't part of the gamer power they're just skills and rituals that anyone in that world could learn to do, slower and less efficiently.
In worm the gamer powers and skills should fall under the local paradigm and allow for skills and training in line with earth-bet physics, with some subtle shard assists.
What does "backdoor sense-sharing" mean? Is this one-way sense-sharing? The_GrandMage, can you please remove this line from the Empower and Vehicle votes?
What does "backdoor sense-sharing" mean? Is this one-way sense-sharing? The_GrandMage, can you please remove this line from the Empower and Vehicle votes?
No, it's the sense-sharing with ZIon's address replaced.
Sorry, I'm copy/pasting a lot of stuff since we apparently want to contact twenty goddamn Shards with nested IF functions and Vhal might be fine with this shit but it's the reason our voting is fucked and Tally won;t work.
Yes, it's the one-way sense-sharing. Did you not want to set up one-way sense-sharing with them if they're non-sentient, but give them fully accessed uncensored Host data? Fine, I'll delete it.
Thanks. I prefer two-way sense-sharing but only with non-sapient Shards. If a lot of people want only one-way sense-sharing, then I'll change my vote, but with two-way sense-sharing, we get info and then can ask the Shard for the info they got as well if we need to.
And you post right after I edit. No, yeah, the backdoor is the way that replaces Zion so it goes two ways and I don't even know what you want anymore?
Uncensored two-way? Two-way with ZIon replacement? One-way?
EDIT: Okay, everything has backdoor replaced with "sense-sharing with ZIon's address replace" because that's what everything should mean if I read the votes right. If it's wrong, respond after this post and I'll fix it tomorrow, after I've slept off staring at huge blocks of votes and dealing with struggling to format them since there are blocks of "do this for four different Shards" and Vhal needs them one at a time.
And you post right after I edit. No, yeah, the backdoor is the way that replaces Zion so it goes two ways and I don't even know what you want anymore?
Uncensored two-way? Two-way with ZIon replacement? One-way?
I was planning on uncensored two-way if the Shard is non-sapient and not hostile & Zion replacement with no sense-sharing if the Shard is hostile. That would limit the number of times we replace Zion's address because you were worried about it being suspicious that we're doing that. If a lot of people prefer a specific method, I'll change it to whatever the thread as a whole prefers, but it feels like whenever I try to come up with a plan to make one side happy, another side starts complaining.
The vote tally might work better if we change the name for plans with minute differences. A lot of times, people will add or remove a line but keep the plan name the same so I think the vote tally gets confused. Maybe we should instead do something like:
Plan "Variation-Replace Zion's Address"
Plan "Variation-Uncensored Two-Way Sense-Sharing"
I usually try to do that whenever I change a plan, but I see a lot of people not changing the plan name.
Okay, in the efforts of making voting a bit easier to follow along with, and for new voters to have a nice, handy guide of what votes are out there and trending to vote for/against, I decided to co-opt matters and start a post I'll be editing to keep current.
@Vhalidictes could we get an Informational Threadmark in the short term until this voting cycle is done? Thanks!
Now, I know what you're thinking, why not just use Tally?
Because our Voting is weird. Blocks have a lot of overlap. By Task is weird because we're not formatting the votes to do that, and by line has overlaps and get unconnected from their parents. So, since we need to manually get things done anyway, much better to just have it done in a manner updated regularly.
Anyway, please keep voting the standard way in case anyone wants to use Tally, or try to get us to vote in blocks that make sense with Tally. Maybe tag me in a post to let me know you changed your votes if you do so I can edit them? Making sure I know what you decided to stop voting for is super helpful so I don't have to play guessing games.
You can vote for or against any specific line and I will try to get it right and link to the post you vote in with your name to make it clear who is voting for what and where that vote came from. This way, if you want to debate an option before voting on only that then moving on to the next topic with fellow Questors I can make that work.
Not sure how much my own experience applies here, and I know full well the way I like to do things is weird. But, honestly, votes like that aren't as big as the ones in Halping Quest could get. Had the same problem too, where all the conditionals and sub-conditionals were what was padding the length.
The problem was that players felt like they didn't have enough information to make informed decisions. The problem with that is more information will always lead to more questions, so any solution ends up being recursive up until the point when all possible permutations of the plot are explained, which is otherwise known as the end of the story.
As best as I can understand, the solution is to link information gathering with story progress. Whatever the means of gathering information are, the result of getting that information pushes things along. Normally, this would lead to paralyzing indecision for the players, since we all to a one want to leave all of our options open and also want to harvest information before picking the best possible option. Which is bad.
What you do then is make it so that time passes while gathering info. Spending too long in one place to figure out what happens results in another opportunity slipping by: in other words, the act of gathering information on a particular option is treated as committing to that direction. They can still back out and try a different direction, but options continue to slip away one by one until only the options that were investigated remain.
I never figured out a good way to do this. The best I had was a band-aid that could be described as "five minute preview chapter". People would make votes, and twenty-four (-ish) hours later, I'd go through each vote one by one and describe the immediate outcome of that vote, then open a second voting round where people could change the parts of the plan which hadn't happened yet, which basically took the place of the endless if-conditionals. Sometimes the character would notice something the players hadn't, which would allow people to change the action outright (since it hadn't been done yet) or choose to go through with it anyways, but there'd still be an implied moment of hesitation that other characters may have noticed.
Of course, something like that is entirely on the GM. It doesn't necessarily need to take extra time or effort, though: myself, I just wrote the chapter like I normally would, then posted the relevant snippets, and any revisions were usually pretty minor.
The thing about the gamer power is that people conflate the gamer power with the magic system from the comic-world it originated on, things like elementals, mana use, and dungeon creation aren't part of the gamer power they're just skills and rituals that anyone in that world could learn to do, slower and less efficiently.
In worm the gamer powers and skills should fall under the local paradigm and allow for skills and training in line with earth-bet physics, with some subtle shard assists.
[X] Plan Science!
-[X] Continue Stabilize Trigger (Human). Apply excess points and 1d100.
-[X] Start Faster Research 2.
[X] Plan Light Forge/Incendiary
-[X] Ask for their status and the status their hosts. Make sure to have Memetic Proxy Filtering up.
-[X] Ask for shard addresses.
-[X] If Shard is non-sapient and not "strange", set up backdoor sense-sharing.
[X] Plan Coat/Alternate/Variation/Magnify
-[X] Ask for their status and the status their hosts. Make sure to have Memetic Proxy Filtering up.
-[X] Ask for shard addresses.
-[X] If Shard is non-sapient and not "strange", set up backdoor sense-sharing.
[X] Plan Charge
-[X] Don't mess with Charge.
[X] Plan Marker
-[X] Contact Marker and ask for its status and the status of its host. Make sure to have Memetic Proxy Filtering up.
-[X] Ask for shard addresses.
-[X] If Shard is non-sapient and not "strange", set up sense-sharing, replace Zion's Address, and ask for half of the Shard's currency info. Don't force the issue of they refuse.
[X] Plan Search Shard Data
-[X] Search the Swap data to learn more about Clone, Mask, and Transform.
-[X] Search data for information about favor.
-[X] Search data for dates of past interactions with QA, and what they did.
-[X] Search for rules and regulations of the cycle. Proper protocols and such.
-[X] Search for data on how Zion and Eden shards interact.
-[X] Search for information on third entity, Abbadon.
-[X] Search fro rules about how tinkertech works and about letting hosts gain actual knowledge of advanced tech.
-[X] Search data for information about what's going on with Charge and how to fix it.
-[X] Search for information on how to properly diagnose and fix damaged shards.
[X] Plan Bad Feeling
-[X] Checkup on Twin, Fusion, and Frictionless to make sure you restricted them right.
[X] Plan Update
-[X] Update any non-sentient shards we're sense sharing with the new backdoor protocols.
[X] Plan Negotiator
-[X] Tell her we're not going to give Taylor her original power, we're changing things. We want to plan with her.
-[X] Discuss what to with Coil. Potentially, we can ADC him and then work with Lisa. We can kill him and have Lisa replace him. We can create an avatar to join Lisa in taking over his organization. We have Twins complete loyalty, and could potentially get it to switch hosts, potentially even giving Lisa a power.
-[X] Discuss Gaeas trustworthiness, and if we could recruit her.
-[X] Ask her how involved she is with her host and what research she needs to further her plans. Advise her on what we've already got and what we're researching now.
[X] Don't sense share with any sapient shards.
[X] Do not contact High Priest, Sting, Broadcast, Keeper of the Dead, or Path to Victory. Basically anyone who could potentially curb-stomp us.
[X] Commit to coming back to now and sharing Time Travel with your past self if/when you acquire Time Travel in the future. Try not to think about potential paradoxes. Inevitably think about paradoxes.
[X] Activate Memetic Proxy when meeting new shards. Turn it off otherwise.
[X] Plan So You Want To Be A Cape!
-[X] Taylor dreams herself at a computer with the browser open to a "Design Your Own Cape Powers" website. The front page is filled with the ideas from the Power Design threadmark listed as designs created by previous visitors. At the bottom of the page, there's a link to start the process. This process actually takes you to the rules behind designing cape powers, which matches our own rules for giving out cape powers. It also mentions that there will be limits on the various info types to see how creative the designers can be.
-[X] Allow Taylor to rate other users powers and build her own.
[X] Plan Lilac
-[X] Send her a dream about the meeting at Fugly Bobs. In it she's getting along great with Claire and Taylor. It's nice to have friends, and one of them is weird too! Maybe we could really be friends and hang out, that would be great...
[X] Plan I Spy...
-[X] Hello Coil! I bet someone is having a bad day.
-[X] If successful with Marker, see what Mouse Protector is up to.
-[X] Has Bakuda blown up Cornell yet?
[X] Plan "Danny Dream"
-[X] Taylor is watching an image of herself playing a board game with Danny. They're both having a lot of fun and enjoying spending time together.
-[X] After a bit of this, the image of Taylor seems to be thinking hard for a minute before resolving herself to act. She tells her father that she's glad that they could spend time together because they've been so distant from each other for so long. She also admits that she hasn't had anyone else to turn to because something is wrong with Emma. Emma is not her friend any more and has instead been bullying her and getting the other girls at school to bully her too. She's tried to get the school to do something, but nothing seems to work and she doesn't know what to do any more.
-[X] Danny hugs Taylor and tells her that she's his number one priority, and he's going to do whatever it takes to help her.
It's like you all want to have the most fucked up, obtuse voting system possible.
You could make it like this:
[] Shard Contact Plan "Oliver"
-[] Get Shard Addresses, Shard Status, Host Status, Status of Host Organization
-[] Ask for some information currency if they'd be so kind as to have some to spare.
-[] Offer to two-way share senses. Change Zion's address to our maintenance one.
[] Charge: No
[] Optimize: No
[] Dancemaster: Yes
[] Coat: Yes
And then Tally would work, and lo would all our prayers be heard. But no, we have to have voting plans for each Shard.
Next time someone else can do this. ccstat was willing to last time. Maybe they will be again.
But seriously you guys. At some point no one will help Vhal set this up beforehand and he'll spend longer tabulating the votes than writing the chapter.
Could you try to works you votes into a system that requires as little work as possible to tally instead of the maximum amount of work?
It's bad enough Dreams and Research and contacting our favorite Shards will be that complex without every vote having to be the maximum complexity.
My understanding was that Vhalidictes wanted the plans for each Shard to be listed separately. @Vhalidictes, should we use The_GrandMage's format?
If we do switch to the suggested format, I suggest that we include "Sense-sharing with" or some other identifier with the Shard names to make it easier to read the vote tally.
[] Sense-Share with Charge: No
[] Sense-Share with Optimize: No
[] Sense-Share with Dancemaster: Yes
[] Sense-Share with Coat: Yes
Edit: @Captain Hunt, voting on research projects is only for the PM update, and we're voting for the AM update. Also, you're voting to send 2 dreams to Taylor in one night.
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♦Topic: Catgirl Sightings
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
BayWatcher (Original Poster) (Veteran Member)
Posted on November 4, 2010:
Okay, so we've have a lot of speculation coming up since the rumors of a catgirl first surfaced in [Panacea parties hard]. So, here's a dedicated thread.
So, what we know:
1 - Is not a Cape, just a cosmetic biomod done by Panacea.
2 - Female, likely teenaged, went to the Wednesday the 3rd party Panacea was at.
So, we're looking for sightings, theories, etc. There have been plenty of doctored photos, but no real evidence this is anything but a rumor.
EDIT: Okay, jeez, guys, Mods have been around, so let's consolidate their warnings here: She's not a cape, so identity speculation is fine. She is likely a minor, though, and that means trying to keep information down, yeah? Maybe first names, last initial only? No one needs to know the personal details of a bunch of schoolkids.
EDIT2: Alright, you may have noticed a new tag floating around, (Unverified Catgirl). Yes, the mods are in on it. A lot of ladies around the Bay area who's been suggested to be the catgirl in question have gotten the new tag. A few have even had it removed due to photos of a current newspaper and their lack of fuzzy cat ears. Most, it seems, like the mystery. A friendly reminder that we don't doc-drop fellow board members. Let's not get banned, okay?
EDIT3: Okay, the kids from various High Schools not seen Thursday or Friday are [Here]. Although this won't help if we have ourselves a dropout, home-schooler, or older sibling outside the age range looked for. Nothing to do but wait for Monday, I guess.
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► United_488
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I don't see where the confusion is?
Nekomimi are a strongly Japanese phenomenon.
They're everywhere in manga, anime, and pop culture.
Of course the community is paying attention.
► FervertFollower (Cape Groupie)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
do you think the nekomimi is hiding
► FranticWeaselDance
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Guys, guys, guys (and gals) you will NOT believe what I just saw. Like, literally, you're not going to believe me. So I'm at work, getting told to go clear off the windows outside the shop. Long story short, sick kid means I get to clear up vomit.
Short story long, I spot something in the reflection of the glass, and I turn my head and what do I see? Our elusive catgirl! Walking about, heading right towards the Boardwalk!
Now, I hear you, loyal denizens of the internet: "Pics or it didn't happen." Sadly, my work doesn't allow phones while on the job. I rushed to finish and asked for a fifteen minute break to get on here and spread the word so someone else can hopefully catch a pic.
If no one does, I'm a lying liar who lies. If they do, proof for days. So if you're in the area already, just have your phone to hand and keep an eye out. If not, sit back and wait for the verdict to come in.
► Empire_88 (Veteran Member) (Verified Troll)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I'm confused about why ABB members seem to be so willing to claim someone who might not be Asian.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that the "community" is branching out and being more inclusive than the racists across town. And if this is where it has to start, that's fine.
I'm just wondering why. Just a cultural thing? If a brother actually trained in the art of Bushido and dressed like a Samurai would he get a pass? Where is the line drawn?
► optimystic
Replied on November 8, 2010:
oh gosh, here comes fervent again.
probably is hiding, if only to keep away from people like you that would hound them. give everything time to blow over so they don't need to worry as much about it. although knowing our town it'd be better to get it out of the way earlier rather than later.
► WhiteHat_BlueCastle
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Frantic was telling the truth! Behold, for there are pics, so it did in deed happen. I'd been hoping to post first before anyone else saw her, but I see now it's only the first verified proof of existance.
I drink your shameful tears, Frantic. May you curse you employer for all time.
► LordSeiryuu
Replied on November 8, 2010:
@FranticWeaselDance
Bullshit. No pics it never happened.
Edit: strangerd.
► United_488
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Nice story, Frantic. I'll tell some people I know should be in that area to keep an eye out, maybe we'll see if it's true or another false lead, soon.
Look, the Asian community has always been kind of at-odds with each other.There are a lot of cultures with long histories of conflict, and other issues. So of course the gangs that sprung up fought each other. When the ABB took over, that forced a lot of hands. A house divided and all that. So of course there's been a lot of internal issues that have precluded bringing in outsiders.
As for a gaijin Samurai. . .
If they actually knew what they were talking about, and followed proper customs and traditions? Maybe. But that can also be seen as mocking hertiage, you know.
Cultural appropriation is best left to the actual Empire 88.
► Ekul
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Oh, that picture actually looks decent. And I even recognize the building behind her, so it fits with Frantic's narrative. So when's Professor Brooks going to give the old confirm/deny?
Because he's proven my optimism wrong before, so I don't want to get my hopes up.
The overall effect is adorable, though. I wonder how long it took to adjust to having a tail, though?
► XxVoid_CowboyxX (Temp-banned)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Judging by how long she's gone unseen, and the location of recent searches, that's gotta be Amy Dallon.
I mean, the clothes even match what she's wearing in the video!
► BayWatcher (Original Poster) (Veteran Member)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Nice! A picture. Looks like we have some confirmation, there IS a catgirl out there somewhere.
Sadly, I'm nowhere near the Boardwalk and have actual work to be doing, so I can't run done and catch a glimpse myself, good catch, though!
► Chilldrizzle
Replied on November 8, 2010:
[Pic] here, come and get your pic!
Seriously, I was just out to pick up some shoes, and who do I see outside the shop window? Whoop, there she is!
So many inappropriate puns. I shall, of course, refrain from such things on the internet, where she could see them and probably ruin my life by calling me out for them.
► Char
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Hey, she's actually real cute.
Don't recognize her from school, and you'd think someone with her looks would be in with the popular crowd.
Well, I say popular, but that word doesn't quite mean what it should. . .
Also, Void, that's actually pretty hilarious. I laughed.
► optimystic
Replied on November 8, 2010:
oh shit, void actually managed to get a laugh from me, and not at his expense. major accomplishments, kid, you're learning.
► MylesageMayVary
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Well, shit. two photos, obviously different, same area, same catgirl. Do we have actual proof? Because, uhm, I honestly didn't believe the whole catgirl thing was real. And I was AT the party where she supposedly gained those ears.
So I am very surprised. And kind of sad that I also don't recognize her. Too much to hope that we'd share a circle of friends, I guess. I do kind of hope she goes to Arcadia, though. Would be interesting to see the way interest is divided between her and Amy when they decide to come back to school.
Have to check the school threads and see if any of the potential candidates was out again this week.
► FervertFollower (Cape Groupie)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
oh wow that's amazing panacea does great work
too bad it was all at a party though maybe shell open herself up to paid work
i couldn afford it though
► Brockton_Brooks
Replied on November 8, 2010:
What's this, photographs of dubious claims? On my precious local boards?
Fear not, for I have arrived.
And after a cursory glance, they appear to be genuine.
After a deep look into the first one, I can say if it was doctored, it was done at some Tinkertech level because that's as real as I can tell.
Will look at the second one more closely, but I have a feeling we're seeing the real deal here.
► Purrfectionist (Unverified Catgirl)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
well, if she gets online and verifies herself, does that mean everyone else loses the unverified tags? i wouldn't mind losing mine, just can't be bothered to verify i'm not a catgirl.
if someone wants to keep it, i guess they could always claim to be another one. no need to push tags on others just because they're in the bay.
► WolvenKnight
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Verified? That's so cool! I love the ears! And the tail!
Are there any vids, I want to see them moving!
I want woof tail and ears!
► Empire_88 (Veteran Member) (Verified Troll)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Wait, is she wearing a red skirt under that green top?
Also, Void, good catch on the clothes. I had to actually go double-check once I caught my breath from laughing. I don't think I would have made such a reach, but hey, it turned out funny, so I guess it was a good reach.
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► Whackograve
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Time for a third [Pic]!
Actually asked her to take a picture with me, and she agreed! Edited to maintain both of our online anonymity. By covering our eyes. Look, if domino masks work for Capes, this'll work for us normies.
► WagTheDog
Replied on November 8, 2010:
@WolvenKnight OMG! Me too! That would be awesome!
► United_488
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Yes, Empire, she is wearing red and green.
Gonna have to check with my fellows and see if she's Unionized.
► XxVoid_CowboyxX (Temp-banned)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I'm not joking, I'm serious! That outfit doesn't just look alike, it's the same clothes! She's totally Amy Dallon!
► Dive Bucket
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Behold, it was request, and so it arrives! [Video]
Lookit them ears and tail MOVE!
It's almost like they're alive or somethin', innit?
► Fursona (Verified Cape) (Protectorate 41)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Nice! Fan club is going to be super jealous, and wonder how far Panacea can go.
Any updates on her location, jokes aside?
We're starting to get worried that something may have happened to her with a whole weekend of radio silence on the matter. If the Bay wasn't a little outside of my league, I might think about transferring over.
Maybe I should ask about a brief show for PR opportunities after Panacea is found?
► Empire_88 (Veteran Member) (Verified Troll)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Wait, what? Okay, first of all, it doesn't look anything like her. Second of all, we all know Panacea can't affect herself, so how did she change that? Then we've got the fairly obvious fact that the catgirl isn't hiding who she is. Sure, she's not stopping to pose for pictures (yet), but she's also not hiding her ears and tail, and considering how much Amy likes to hide behind her sister or in her own costume, I just don't see that happening. Plus, if it was Amy, and she changed her face, you'd be breaking the site rules by outing her.
Why don't you you lay off whatever is making you so uptight and show up to the good feelings the rest of us are enjoying? Even if it wasn't a joke, own it as one and accept the laughs.
► Dgators
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Wait, what, you just had to ask and she agreed?
Snap, I gotta get my camera and head down there before you scare her off pictures!
Not often you meet what could be the start of a whole new race!
► Brockton_Brooks
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Okay, so the second photo checks out, and now there are two more examples.
Okay, a cursory look over leads me to believe they're also genuine.
Gonna stop here, because video is a lot harder to manufacture. Not impossible, but unless they're all in it together all signs point to confirmed catgirl. And now I'm away, to correct someone else's belief that a poorly edited photograph proves something.
► XxVoid_CowboyxX (Temp-banned)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Fuck you! Maybe I'll show up and punch you in your stupid face, how do you like that!? [MOD NOTE: Okay, I was willing to overlook things earlier, because it was first an obvious joke, and second blatant tinfoil hat crackpot nonsense, but now you've moved on to threats. Have a two-day ban and think about what you've done.]
► PhiThale
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Wait, isn't that the princess that we are looking forward to showing the world? What happened?
Amy can make more money? How much? Do you try to reduce our greatness?
► Otakuneko
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Oh, wow. That's amazing work, I really want to see more of what Panacea can do
► Char
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Ugh, and to think I gave him props for a good joke.
Also, that top is teal, and a lot closer to blue than green. Stop trying to push the girl into a gang.
► Bruce Lao
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Well, this certainly started developing quickly.
How long until she either charges for photos, or becomes a local mascot for something?
► Inmyeonjo
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Char don't dash our dreams like that.
Although I agree, it's teal. Doesn't mean she's not hinting an affiliation, though.
► Neko-Sukeban (Unverified Cape) (Unverified Catgirl)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Wait, who's that, nya~?
I've nyever seen HER before! What's going on meow?
Nyu better have a good explanyation for this!
► Clockblocker (Verified Cape) (Wards ENE)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
@PhiThale
whut?
Also, she's real cute, isn't she? Kind of wish I had a patrol of the Boardwalk today to try and meet her. Sadly, it seems my heart shall have to pine after my waifu a bit longer.
► Boardwalk_Enforcers
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Okay everyone, some photos are fine, but if we find you harassing someone or blocking access to the shops, there'll be trouble. So try and keep things polite and away from a mob, okay?
Hate to have to kick her out because you all wouldn't let her be.
► Chilldrizzle
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Guy, I think she's heading towards Fugly Bob's!
We've got quite the little group of internet paparazzi here. Expect more photos incoming, but I don't think the Enforcers like us much, so we're keeping our distance.
► Winged_One
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Thanks for your help, GM. Good to see someone is willing to fix what they're breaking.
Took a lot of planning to set that all up, you know. RA, you have the right idea. K, I don't think you realize how hard our job actually is. I'd rather a vacation than more finicky tasks.
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♦Topic: Fugly Bob's (Catgirls, Floorshows, and Challengers, oh my!)
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay
CHhad (Original Poster)
Posted on November 8, 2010:
Right, so, I'm out at Fugly Bob's getting a bite with the lads, and what should I spy but some girl getting all up in the space of anotehr waiting in line. So I got my phone out, because Veronica's in teh building and she's, well, Veronica.
So I decide to keep an eye on this girl because if she's going to cause trouble it'll be hilarious, and low and behold she just starts letting into this poor girl: [Video]
So Veronica and Vicky come over and start doing what heroines do, and getting her to lay off. Anyway, it turns out this bitch wasn't even bothering the right girl, she just started harassing some stranger. By buddy Trey got a better angle for watching Veronica tell this girl off, here: [Video2]
And it ends with her running off, perhaps realizing that being a hsitty person isn't a good idea.
Anywho, then the Catgirl arrived! She's pretty cute. [Video3]
And then a third girl arrived and three tiny teen girls eat the Challenger. And finish. In top twenty times. da fuck? [Pic] Of the updated wall.
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► Char
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Oh shit! I've been looking for something about what happened when the catgirl got to Fugly's, but I know that bitch!
She thinks she's hot shit, because her family has money, she's pretty, a model, and the teachers at Winslow let her get away with anything. Good to see her taken down a peg.
► BrocktonBoardJames
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Holy shit.
Well, I heard Amy's work makes you really hungry. And she hasn't been seen a while. That makes sense she might be hungry enough to finish a Challenger. But what's with the other two? Who are they?
► Brockton_Baymen_Fan217
Replied on November 8, 2010:
What even. . .
► Dr_Righteous
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I'm don't know how to feel about this.
On the one hand, they teamed up and made that girl cry.
On the other, she was bullying that other girl and that's not something we can allow. I don't know how things happen at whatever school she goes at, but I doubt it could be Arcadia, we don't allow that sort of thing here.
On the gripping hand, Veronica and Victoria are in for quite the talk when they get into school tomorrow. There are proper ways to do this sort of thing, and this wasn't ideal. Good on them for stepping up, but they didn't need to try and do things themselves.
► bothad
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Jeez, kids.
Still, those girls could eat. Not exactly wolfing it down, but they went at it steady. I was there, saw a bit of it. Didn't stay to watch them finish, didn't think they would, actually.
All three looked pretty skinny. Seemed friendly enough. Might have been holding off on eating for a day or two to make the attempt together?
I've seen weirder, though you shouldn't make a habit of doing things like that, it's not healthy.
► CalicoStraits (Unverified Catgirl)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Well, we've got a name for our catgirl, now!
Claire.
Shit, I don't think that's on any of the school lists of kids who didn't show last week or today. The thread's already exploded in speculation it's an out-of-towner or homeschooler.
► FlippinMad
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Oh my, she really got put in her place, didn't she?
Kind of good to see she can't just get away with the types of stuff she does in school all the time. Then again, I suppose I'm not one to talk.
► LordSeiryuu
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I knew a girl a claire lavere. Was my bosses daughter. He was a good man as long as you did you job followed the rules hed do right by you.
Disappeared after the big gang fights started up when marquis was caught. The company and everything were put into a trust in his daughters name so we figured he got caught in the crossfire.
Seems about the right age. Doesnt look much like him but i never knew her mother so maybe she got it from her? Trusts set up so she can talk to the board about it even before she hits her majority.
Its run over at venkman spengler and melnitz if any of you internet detectives want to go look it up for more information. Only know that much because it was the firm the boss used for everything and when they took over there was a lot of information about it.
► Dr_Righteous
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Seriously, this type of behavior is normal at Winslow?
I know you're probably exaggerating, but still. . .
► Char
Replied on November 8, 2010:
We're not exaggerating!
The place is a mess. Gangs have a strong presence there, they actively recruit. Teachers do what they can, but you can only monitor the students so much.
So when one of the pretty girls and the track star decide to start throwing their weight around in their own little gang, I guess it slips under their attention since at least they're not doing anything criminal. . . yet.
► Red_Queen_BB
Replied on November 8, 2010:
No shit, the catgirl might be a trust fund kid being homeschooled?
I mean, I could certainly see her moving in the circles to be at Stansfield's party, then.
She's pretty cute, but doesn't hold a candle to PanPan.
► Toho_Predictions (Kyushu Survivor)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Well, I'll be. Didn't think the catgirl rumors were true, it's been so long since anyone had heard anything about them. Still, here we go. Do you think she knows where Panacea is?
After all, they've both been missing for around the same amount of time. Then again, those clothes don't look very clean, but, teenagers. . .
► DiamondDreams
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I recognize that bully!
She's the one who made fun of my disability at a photo-shoot.
I remember Glory Girl standing up for me then, too, and spending most of the rest of the time hanging out with me.
She did have a little clique around her then, though. Although if some of these other posts are true, it might be other kids from her school? Glad I don't go there, then, and I pity those that do.
► FlippinMad
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Hey, what do you want us to do? You look good enough, you'll attract the boys. And when most of the boys are in gangs, that's not a good thing. Especially when at least one of those gangs is willing to force addictions on kids and another does trade in human trafficking.
So yeah, when the track star who has some jock friends and her pretty friend with a lawyer dad who both seem capable of doing whatever they want ask you to hang out, you do.
Anything to keep the gangs away. It's just some pranks, no one's getting hurt. Just mean words and some stains. And its kept the gang members from being around, so it's working.
► Dive Bucket
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Well, at least SOME kids have a sense of morals, I guess.
And even more have a sense of taste. The Challenger is a mighty good meal (or two). Usually two.
► CHhad (Original Poster)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
I think you're all really missing the boit that's the most important here:
Veronica. Yowza.
I would say I'd let her yell at me, but I don't really want to be run off crying, so I'll politely decline that honor.
I'd ask if anyone thinks she used her powers to amkle the girl run, but I know better than that.
No, that was Collateral Damage Barbie. They left shortly afterwards because they'r brough the mood of the whol restaurant down.
Hate to see them leave, love to watch them go.
► Miraclemic
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Jeez, and I could never bring myself to finish the Challenger in one sitting. Certainly not that fast.
Not even sure how they fit that much cow inside them.
► optimystic
Replied on November 8, 2010:
huh. came in after they'd finished, saw them getting their pictures takens for the wall. figured they were probably some friends who did it on a dare and didn't know about everything that lead up to it.
hey, wait, didn't the redhead mention a taylor? because wasn't that the curly-haired girl? lilac, claire, and taylor, yeah. lilac didn't seen to know the name earlier.
huh. when was the last time we have multiple people attempt and complete the challnger and have them not know each other beforehand?
► MylesageMayVary
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Whelp, school threads were a bust, Nearest to a Claire was a Cassandra.
Although we got some gold struck around here. Which, really, a thread about the exciting floor show of our favorite burger place was not where I expected to get leads beyond her name.
Okay, it's only a possible lead. Still, her adoring fans must know the answers to burning questions they have!
. . . Okay, we don't really have any, but still!
► DFC
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Man, now I'm hungry for some Fugly Bob's, but I already missed the floor show. . .
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♦Topic: Missing Exotic Pet: Platypus
In: Boards ► Places ► America ► Brockton Bay ► Connections
Platypodes (Original Poster)
Posted on November 4, 2010:
Yes, you read that right. My pet platypus is missing.
She got out sometime today, and wandered away from our backyard, which we have set up for her. She's about sixteen inches long in total, and weighs just shy of two and a half pounds. We're really worried about her. She needs to eat 20% of her body weight each day, and that's about half a pound.
The platypus diet is mainly segmented worms, insect larva, and freshwater shrimp and crayfish. In the wild they usually spend a majority of their time hunting for food, so we're really worried for her out there if she can't find it for herself.
Her name is Penny, and she's female, so there's no need to worry about venom spurs.
[Pic]. If seen, please comment here or contact me directly.
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► An_ArchMage
Replied on November 4, 2010:
Wait, what?
Why? How?
I have so many questions about this.
Why do you have a pet platypus?
Where does one even get a platypus?
What is the plural of platypus? Platypuses? Platypi?
► Platypodes (Original Poster)
Replied on November 4, 2010:
Most people use platypus as the plural and singular. Platypuses is accepted. Some people use platypi, but that's actually incorrect, if you were to properly pluralize it from the root language, it would come out as platypodes.
As for how I got Penny. . .
Okay, so, in the 1940s there were a few platypus given to zoos. Platypus don't breed well in captivity, though, so eventually things petered out. Australia didn't see a reason to ship out more, with the low birth rates in captivity and keeping them as something quirky to see there, so it was kept as a purely Australian thing to promote tourism.
Then the Endbringers happened. With their only environment being the west coast of Australia, it was decided to ship some out to various Species Survival Plan zoos in the US dedicated to protecting endangered species, and other places worldwide to try and protect them from extinction in case of Leviathan.
One such zoo was the Stone Zoo, in Stoneham. Which is part of Zoo New England with the Franklin Park Zoo in Boston. Now, the Franklin Park Zoo didn't survive the Boston Blowback well, and eventually Zoo New England went under.
So, they held an auction to try and get the animals to good homes. Our fine state only has laws against dangerous animals, including cats (like tigers), canines (like wolves), bears, and great apes. Since Penny's female, and therefore lacks venom spurs, she's actually perfectly legal to own, though hard to get ahold of.
► GreyWorld_ColoredPills
Replied on November 5, 2010:
Oh, wow, this means Roger might have been telling the truth. He claimed to see something he described like the picture out in the docks area rooting around.
I thought he was just high. In fact, I think HE thought he was high, too.
Shit, look, I'll see if I can get him to rememebr what area it was in and go look around.
► Platypodes (Original Poster)
Replied on November 5, 2010:
That would be such a big help!
Even if you don't find her, let me know where it was, and the date, okay? If we get enough sightings, we might be able to work out where she's moving.
► GreyWorld_ColoredPills
Replied on November 6, 2010:
Okay, so sadly he couldn't rememebr much, too high.
Did manage to narrow it down a bit to a several block radius: [Pic]
That's not exactly the best part of town. I'll go around, see if I can't find any clues. Leave it up here in case someone else wants to.
► Platypodes (Original Poster)
Replied on November 7, 2010:
OMG, thank you soooo much!
And yeah, that isn't the best part of town. I hope she's okay! She must be so hungry out there. Not a lot that's good for her to eat in an urban area.
► Tilt-A-Whirl (Unverified Cape)
Replied on November 7, 2010:
Hmm.
You know what, I can look around the southeast of that area, see if I can find something. I have a few hours to kill today.
► V_Stephens (Verified BBPD)
Replied on November 8, 2010:
Hey, I don't know if you've see it yet, but someone posted a sighting of a platypus elsewhere: [Topic: What the Heck is THAT!?]
It seems bigger than you described. Maybe a male?
Thought you might want to know, since it was seen in that same area. So if anyone is out there, be careful, the males are known to have excruciating venom in their venom spurs.
So if you see a platypus, don't try and grab it. You can call us,or contact animal control, and we'll pick it up. Any platypus that gets called in we'll contact you about, Platypodes, in case it turns out to be Penny.
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♦ Private message from Brandish (Verified Cape) (New Wave):
Brandish *New Message*: You were supposed to go back to school today, young lady. You're in a lot of trouble. Brandish *New Message*: YOU GET BACK HERE AND CLEAN UP THIS MESS YOU MADE RIGHT NOW. Brandish *New Message*: I saw that freak you made on PHO. Isn't it bad enough what you did to poor Dean, especially now that you refuse to come undo it, and now you're making Case 53s as well? Brandish *New Message*: You haven't been by the hospital, either. I've checked. Don't think I don't know. Brandish *New Message*: YOU COME HOME RIGHT NOW. Brandish *New Message*: I spent all day away from work out looking for you! You don't know how good you have it to have us stop you from being just another gang cape. Brandish *New Message*: I can't believe you're putting poor Vicky through all this. Making her look bad, keeping her boyfriend trapped like that. Why are you so selfish? Brandish *New Message*: You better be dead or locked up somewhere. Brandish *New Message*: You're better locked up somewhere.
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♦ Private message from Glory Girl (Verified Cape) (New Wave):
Panacea: You're the one who wanted to go to this party in the first place. Glory Girl: I'll be right down, just need to finish getting ready. Glory Girl *New Message*: Ames, are you okay? Glory Girl *New Message*: Look, I'm sure you saw the news, right? Everything's going to be okay. Come home? Glory Girl *New Message*: Mom's gone completely nuts. Glory Girl *New Message*: OMG, Ames, wherever you are, just. . . Look, maybe don't come home right away. Glory Girl *New Message*: Two words: Healer. Dungeon. Glory Girl *New Message*: Holy shit, was Mom always this much of a bitch? Glory Girl *New Message*: Ames, seriously, are you okay? Just, let me know you're okay, alright?
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♦ Private message from Flashbang (Verified Cape) (New Wave):
Flashbang: I know, it's just. . . Some things I'm not sure are worth it. The side effects are real bad. And sometimes I worry, especially when my thoughts start to drift. . . Flashbang: Have a good first day at Arcadia, Amy! Panacea: Thanks, Dad, I will! Love you! Flashbang: I love you, too, Amy. Flashbang: Hey, Amy, you okay? Panacea: Yeah, I just couldn't sleep. Decided to go to the hospital for a little healing. Flashbang: Oh. Okay. Flashbang *New Message*: I took my meds today, and holy shit. I think I need a divorce. Flashbang *New Message*: Amy, don't come home. Go to the Police.
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♦ Private message from Lady Photon (Verified Cape) (New Wave):
Lady Photon *New Message*: Amy, are you alright? Lady Photon *New Message*: Amy, I filled out a police report to get the Police out looking for you. I know there's been issues with Carol, but we can talk about it. Please, talk to me? Lady Photon *New Message*: I don't know if you have your phone with you, or will ever see this, but we're your family, and some of us do really love you. Lady Photon *New Message*: Amy, we're going out today to look for you. We left things to Vicky and Veronica before, but things are getting serious. Are you alright? Panacea *New Message*: Glory Girl *New Message*: Two words: Healer. Dungeon. Lady Photon *New Message*: . . . Okay, I know that looks bad, but, maybe she's exaggerating. . . Panacea *New Message*: Brandish *New Message*: You better be dead or locked up somewhere. Brandish *New Message*: You're better locked up somewhere. Lady Photon *New Message*: Fucking Carol. Look, Amy. . .Neil and I have been talking with Mark, and. . . New Wave could do with some changes. Just keep an ear out, okay?
Okay, so I share these with Vhal while I work on them (ever since after the first PHO post when he said it was canon-compliant) in order to keep the PHO stuff canon and take on anything he'd like added. In fact, he saw the Rune-chan stuff in the weeks I was brain-cleaching it all out, long before he told me to just post it here. Anyway, some of you might question some of the decisions made here. It was originally going to be from the DJ_Chartreuse account, but was changed to Panacea and the PMs requests. The Winged_One post was not my idea, neither were a lot of other details, like the Platypus's name and gender.
Thanks @The_GrandMage for trying to bring some sanity to our ever-bloating vote system. I approve of the new format, and will try to think of more ways to simplify. In general, I think we should probably reduce the amount of detail in our plans. Vhal seems to keep up with the discussion here more than simply following the votes, so I don't think it's necessary to have sub-clauses and nested if statements on all of our plans. Unless there is a point of contention that deserves voting by the hivemind, let's focus on simple statements of intent for the voting blocks/lines and leave the details to discussion posts.
A question on data. Right now we've mostly been getting more by stealing asking nicely from new shards we meet. That's great for our startup costs, but eventually we'll become more reliant on the data generated from our hosts. Do we have any sense for how quickly that accumulates? For example, Lilac has spent a couple nights tinkering like crazy. Did anyone notice the impact that had on our tinker data?
And a question about hosts, and potential powers. We have some awesome local omniscience via our shard senses around each active host. Is there any way to grant those senses to our host, either by streaming them directly or by giving those senses as a power? It's a lot of information, and I don't want to burn out a host's brain, but giving someone (like Taylor) that degree of awareness would be powerful, and her brainmeats might be able to handle it even if a regular human couldn't. If it's a power, what sort of data would we need to spend for it? Thinker, probably? If it's a matter of sharing the senses directly that runs headlong into restrictions on shard-host communication, but since it's sensory we might be able to skirt the rules a bit to hide/mask the aberrance.
EDIT: Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we set the "Zion's address change" thing to auto-propagate whenever shards communicate. That should spread by itself, and eventually we will be screening all of his email and phone calls. If this is not the case yet, I think we should do this. Zion already gave us approval points for setting up the screening with one annoying shard, so there is no reason to be afraid of it looking weird to other shards, sentient or not. If questioned all we have to say is [APPROVED] with some overlay of Zion's [EFFICIENT] and we're golden. Not sure why this backdoor thing is being debated.
Thanks @The_GrandMage for trying to bring some sanity to our ever-bloating vote system. I approve of the new format, and will try to think of more ways to simplify. In general, I think we should probably reduce the amount of detail in our plans. Vhal seems to keep up with the discussion here more than simply following the votes, so I don't think it's necessary to have sub-clauses and nested if statements on all of our plans.
Definitely. Vhal stated fairly early on he spent more time counting votes than actually writing in the early votes, and it's only gotten more complex since people started trying to help him by tabulating everything. After my own pain last time, and then you having to do it at the last minute, I thought doing a running version would work better, but it's, if anything, getting to unsustainable levels.
Vhal may be fine with the votes being in the old format, but at this point we either need to self-regulate so the basic stuff like Contacting new Shards is easy and saving the difficult tabulating for Dreams or talking to Shards we already know. The more we can keep ourselves in the tools the forum gives us the easier things become and the easier it is for new people to get involved. I don't want people thinking they need to make huge, rambling vote plans to join in.
A question on data. Right now we've mostly been getting more by stealing asking nicely from new shards we meet. That's great for our startup costs, but eventually we'll become more reliant on the data generated from our hosts. Do we have any sense for how quickly that accumulates? For example, Lilac has spent a couple nights tinkering like crazy. Did anyone notice the impact that had on our tinker data?
It's listed in the last of the top spoilers on the main chapters, and in the last PM chapter. +14 Sunday, +29 Monday. So she's gained us +43 Tinker data in the few days she's been Tinkering up a storm.
I don't believe so. I believe that's up updating their command codes. They could probably pass those on, but I don't think most Shards have the rights to do it.
I was a bit leery of changing their command codes too much, but, you know what? Screw it. We're leaning into Shard IT to solve the Cycle, lower Aberration, and gain Favor. Let's go whole hog. Change them all by default. Scion wasn't doing anything, we are, and we got a visit from the boss and a bonus for it. He obviously doesn't have an issue with us taking on more responsibility.
Hell, it plays into Corporate Takeover. I'm all for just making it our default, now.
-[] Breaker 300: Taylor is continually charged like a projectile from Flechette, that is, she's a "living sting". This can't be turned off, however it's still posible for her to touch people or things in general if she allows it.
She'd also be able, with practice, to only sever the physic laws she wants to, making her at this point a Siberian but better.
Finally, she'd even be able to break "dimensional barriers" making a breach to others dimension.
-[] Thinker 60: And intuition of what would happen if she severs only certains laws, for example the idea of severing protons from neutrons only would give her the impression it'd be extremily letal for other people, severing dimensional barriers would give her an extradimensional sense of where the dimension she's going is and where she was, also, how to reach any of them.
Power: Eidolon with one OP power
-[] Trump 300: Grants Taylor one power she choose (we don't give her any automatically, she has to choose it). This power is extremely powerfull, effectively occupying her three power slots.
She can switch the power at will, if done too often she'd get a headache.
Power: Located Simurg-Lite
[] Thinker 200: She gets absolute precognition and postcognition of all the timelines in 500 metters from where she stands. She's also able to execute any action shown to her in any timeline (this not only apply to any action done by her, but by any person in it, letting her replicate tinker powers by proximity). This trumps PtV if it were to be in the area, however if it's outside of it then this power is trumped instead.
Power: Scaling up Tinker
-[] Tinker 200: She can build anything, but she starts really low in tech and has to build more and more things to unlock the higher tech options.
Power: Tinker Gamer
More or less the same as Scaling up Tinker but adapted to Gamer format.
[] Tinker 200:
Taylor would get a General Tinker Skill, that lets her tinker anything but low leveled, once she tinkers anything with it she gains an Specific Tinker Skill focushed in what she's done (for example Byology if she has done Biotinkering).
The General Tinker Skill gains XP for any Tinkering done, but it takes a lot to level up.
The Specific Tinker Skills gains XP only if they had been used in the tinkering, but takes far less to level up.
-[] Thinker 20: for the Gamer interface.
-[] Trump 80: Autoimproving Tinker power
Wouldn't beign a Badass Normal get us Contessa'd? If Taylor effectively proved that a normal can beat up capes that would influence normal people to also try it, effectively getting us a visit from the woman in the suit.
Also, something important about giving any power, particularly stronger ones, is that they might consume a lot of energy, getting Zion attention again, only that this time it'd not be good (he's extremlity stingy), so we should test the energy consumption rate of any power we're going to give.
We should ask Charge about the dates, Negotiator said they didn't match up.
I've seen talk about getting a Platypus Avatar, but… Why not make a Platypus Endbringer while we're at it!
Dreams--
Taylor needs the power design dream so we can take her opinions and start narrowing down our huge list of proposals
New dream proposed for Veronica, about buying Amy a thank you present
Sense sharing--
also pay attention to Amy and to Sundancer, don't bother with Mouse Protector yet.
Shards--
Tell Negotiator about Zion's visit, Taylor getting new powers. Don't bother discussing Coil yet--we can let things play out for a while.
Set up standard protocol for contacting new shards, including updating command codes and Zion's address. Specifics open to discussion (Even if my version of the standard protocol doesn't pass, having one at all will be a huge help in reducing the voting complexity)
Contact the proposed new shards, including Sting, but not the other heavy hitters yet
Hosts--
Keep watching Lilac for evidence of thought influence/contamination
Long version for tabulation: inside spoiler
Host Dreams
►Host 0 - Taylor Hebert
Danny: NO
Cape Design: YES
►Host 1 - Veronica Stansfield (Valiant)
Winslow Anti-Bullying Campaign: NO
Presents for Amy: YES
Dream about buying exotic plants for Amy and thanking her for using her powers. Amy glows with happy emotions.
►Host 2 - "Lilac" (Tinker Formerly Known as Trainwreck)
Friendship : YES
Data
►Commit to coming back to now and sharing Time Travel with your past self: YES
►Charge 12 Questions Remain
Check for Data on Favor. NO
Search for rules and regulations of the cycle. Proper protocols and such. YES
Search for information about data collection and what Shards do with it, broken or whole. Will anyone react badly if we go around collecting everyone's data? YES
Search for information about Safeguard, Optimize, Integrate, Appropriate, and Reconstitute. We should find out as much as we can about the other Shards QA contacted. NO
Search about alternative information currency gathering methods that don't involve conflict. What works and what doesn't? YES
Search for information about Battery, including brain patterns over time. YES
Search data for dates of past interactions with QA, and what they did. NO
Search for data on how Zion and Eden shards interact. YES
Search for information on third entity, Abbadon. YES
Search for rules about how Tinkertech works and about letting hosts gain actual knowledge of advanced tech. NO
Search data for information about what's going on with Charge and how to fix it. YES
Search for information on how to properly diagnose and fix damaged shards. YES
►Twin 4 Hours to sort Remain (Is this something we need to vote to spend time on? If so, YES)
►Swap 4 Hours to sort Remain (Is this something we need to vote to spend time on? If so, YES)
►Streamed in Host Data
Thomas Calvert (Coil)YES
Lisa Wilbourn (Tattletale)YES
Check Negotiator's sent Dreams.
??? ??? (Bakuda)YES
Use Memetic Filtering to check data. (VERY YES)
Has Cornell Incident happened yet?
??? ??? (Mouse Protector)NO (we can wait until we know if the sharing went through. let's reduce the number of "contingent upon" votes)
►Amy Dallon (Panacea) YES
►Marissa Newland (Sundancer) YES
Shards
►Previously Contacted
Contact Negotiator
Tell her about Scion's visit and approval YES
Tell her Taylor's power will change. YES
Discuss what to do about Coil. NO
Discuss recruiting Gaea. YES
Ask about how involved with her Host she is. NO
Discuss Research, what we have, what she has. YES
Ask Negotiator to use Dream Master to tell Lisa to keep track of the three girls who ate a challenger (So as to make it easier to form the new team later on) YES
Ask Negotiator to use Dream Master to tell Lisa to write down anything it wants us to know, but can't directly tell us because of restrictions YES
►New Contacts ESTABLISH NEW STANDARD PROTOCOL : YES These steps are assumed unless otherwise specified:
For new contacts, engage memetic proxy filtering
Ask for shard and host status
Ask for shard addresses
If needed, share standard information packet.
Update command codes and Zion's address; instruct to share updates with other shards
Additional, optional steps (must be specified):
Set up sense sharing (two-way is default)
Ask for data (if non-sapient: default is half)
Ask about willingness to trade data (if sapient)
Current proposal from the data library team is "ask to trade up to 250 Master info per Shard for an equivalent amount of Brute, Changer, Tinker, Trump, and/or Stranger info"
Contact Alternate YES
Contact Broadcast NO
Contact Coat YES
Contact Empower YES
Contact High Priest NO
Contact Incendiary YES
Set up sense-sharing
Ask about New Wave's lack of Conflict
Contact Keeper of the Dead NO
Contact Light Forge YES
Set up sense-sharing
Ask about New Wave's lack of Conflict
Ask about Host's depression
Contact Magnify YES
Contact Marker YES
Contact Path to Victory NO
Contact Sting NO
Contact Variation YES
Set up sense-sharing
Contact Vehicle YES
Hosts
►Host 0 - Taylor Hebert
►Host 1 - Veronica Stansfield (Valiant)
►Host 2 - "Lilac" (Tinker Formerly Known as Trainwreck) Continue watching for evidence of thoughts being influenced by us. YES
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I don't believe so. I believe that's up updating their command codes. They could probably pass those on, but I don't think most Shards have the rights to do it.
I was a bit leery of changing their command codes too much, but, you know what? Screw it. We're leaning into Shard IT to solve the Cycle, lower Aberration, and gain Favor. Let's go whole hog. Change them all by default. Scion wasn't doing anything, we are, and we got a visit from the boss and a bonus for it. He obviously doesn't have an issue with us taking on more responsibility.
Hell, it plays into Corporate Takeover. I'm all for just making it our default, now.
Wouldn't beign a Badass Normal get us Contessa'd? If Taylor effectively proved that a normal can beat up capes that would influence normal people to also try it, effectively getting us a visit from the woman in the suit.
Also, something important about giving any power, particularly stronger ones, is that they might consume a lot of energy, getting Zion attention again, only that this time it'd not be good (he's extremlity stingy), so we should test the energy consumption rate of any power we're going to give.
We should ask Charge about the dates, Negotiator said they didn't match up.
I've seen talk about getting a Platypus Avatar, but… Why not make a Platypus Endbringer while we're at it!
You make good points, but I'm not sure Zion particularly cares about our power consumption. Why would he even notice how much energy we use?
Also, let's make a platypus avatar that can transform into a platypus endbringer once we figure out how to make one. It's gonna be a blast! The Platypus Response Team must become a meme!
How about a tinker that can build anything, but has to unlock it with experience.
She had a literal tech tree in her mind, like in Civ games or Shepard Quest, with branches like Cybernetics/Steampunk/Computing.
In places the trees overlap in a complex web. She starts off with one tree, day Junk-tech, where she's building low tier equipment from scarp, Fallout style. To unlock nee trees, she needs experience points from fighting.
Say she wants to build a laser rifle. That overlaps with junk tech, but it'll be a piece of shit. To build a real laser rifle, she needs to unlock energy weapons or just weapons. The more generic a tree, the more experience it takes to unlock. Specific trees are less expensive but less versatile.
Got to thing of the right data requirements, but thoughts?
Regarding the proposed standard protocol for contacting new shards, this is what I put in my voting post:
ESTABLISH NEW STANDARD PROTOCOL
These steps are assumed unless otherwise specified:
For new contacts, engage memetic proxy filtering
Ask for shard and host status
Ask for shard addresses
If needed, share standard information packet.
Update command codes and Zion's address; instruct to share updates with other shards
Additional, optional steps (must be specified):
Set up sense sharing (two-way is default)
Ask for data (if non-sapient: default is half)
Ask about willingness to trade data (if sapient)
Current proposal from the data library team is "ask to trade up to 250 Master info per Shard (up to 1000 total) for an equivalent amount of Brute, Changer, Tinker, Trump, and/or Stranger info"
My main questions are whether we want sense sharing and/or data requests to be default.
Asking for data from non-sapient shards by default seems like a good idea to me. So far not all have complied but none have objected in a way that makes me think asking is weird or a bad idea. We're the core Administrator with a great approval rating--at this point they don't have any grounds to complain.
According to @Vhalidictes (correct me if I misinterpreted), most shards have a limit of 3 incoming streams, but we're QA with unlimited multitasking, so our upper limit is rather arbitrary and set by our data processing ability. I don't see any draw back to setting up as many one-way sense sharing arrangements as we can. Two-way could be a problem if our activities-especially our involvement with our hosts--start looking aberrant. We may want to be more cautious about setting up these reciprocal arrangements, but it seems logical to me that most shards would prefer a two-way deal rather than giving stuff away for free. (EDIT: Just noticed that [Administrative Censorship] is a research option that would let us make any outgoing data streams look non-suspicious. Takes 1000 research and 250 Master info. Probably doable before we start anything that looks aberrant, if we end up deciding two-way sharing is the best choice.)
Automatically updating the command codes and Zion's address seem like straightforward steps to me, giving us more control over the network. If anyone has objections, though, I'm willing to listen.
In addition, we've updated a few shards with a [TRUST ROOT] command that seems like a useful thing to do, but possibly with a higher likelihood of rejection. Any opinions on whether this should be a standard/common/rare event?
