Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)

[X] Plan: POWER UP
[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

Knight-Radiant said:

We done wooed the Witchmon.

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Perfect.

Zavvnao said:

Was it her or someone else wearing a fake eyepatch? Does she know Verge's is for real and not show? (I think I read in this quest someone was doing that, unless I am mixing stuff up.)

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Yeah, she's wearing a fake eye-patch. She also has no idea that everything Verge does is for real, she thinks he's a chuuni like her.

[X] Plan Tank: Focus on Strength, Fortitude and just sparring in general

Verge is Perfect Tank material. Focus on his melee build would be ideal, with how his highest stats are all physical and frankly his magic stats are Trash.

Also It's better to improve what's already has a stable foundation to build upon instead of focusing on the worst attributes that would take a considerable time to be as good as the rest. It's okay to have a interest in magic, it's not however when it's at the cost of Verge's primary stats.

[X] Beat, only seems to want to spar with you for reason. Or rather from what you were able to tell from last night's spar he's focused on defeating you. Try to ask him why.

[X] Plan Agility : Focus on your Speed and reactiontime.
[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

Good justification in character for an Agility focus? Our first match with Beat. Too fast for us to hit.

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Actually, since we find the daily march easier than the other Rookies, could we grab some weights to carry during it?

[X] Plan Magic Fighter : Focus on studying the second spell, along with using your healing in combat.

I can see what the arguments for increasing our primary stats and becoming a true tank is going for. However, I actually think that versatility is more important for us at the current moment since we're essentially trash tier compared to any real front line combatants. So having options to heal, engage from a distance and have spells that inflict great damage to certain opponent will benifit us more in the short-medium term.

I agree that overall stat focus on what we excel at is generally a meritable idea, I just think that in our particular circumstance when we don't know what we're facing against versatility should win the day.

[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

I have a suspicion that its because we don't have a particularly desirable evolution chain, wheras Sparks can evolve into Sorcerymon eventually and Beat has an extremely variable set of useful evolutions he could have the potential for (given his current temperment even something like Flame Wizardmon may well be possible, if not Stingmon is still a versatile powerful champion). Meanwhile traditionally speaking, would be expected to only have the option of evolving into Drimogemon. A mon which is not particularly strong, is not particularly versatile and does not possess many, is any at all, what could be considered extremely useful abilities. Sergeant Scratch doesn't seem to have knowledge of our particularities as a mon (why should he? We look like a Drimogemon and we are indeed one), so he has likely brushed us over as something not worth training for what he'll get.

That being said, once he realises that we are quite likely not to follow into the most common form of digivolution he may pay more attention to us. While I'm not convinced that this will be the best idea necesarrily I'm interested to see what will happen. Maybe he'll actually include us into his training regime (although he wouldn't be able to try and plan our stats to encourage certain evolutions as he is almost certainly doing with Sparks and Beat).

Btw I didn't know this quest had a discord group, mind if I join?

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[X] Plan Agility : Focus on your Speed and reactiontime.
[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

Best get that agility up to par, I want a Lightning Bruiser, instead of a Mighty Glacier, no need to leave exploitable weaknesses in Verge.

My goal is to make Verge a Master of All type digimon.

Basically make Verge as good as specialist in everything.

Todorius said:

I have a suspicioun at its because we don't have a particularly desirable evolution chain, wheras Sparks can evolve into Sorcerymon eventually and Beat has an extremely variable set of useful evolutions he could have the potential for (given his current temperment even something like Flame Wizardmon may well be possible, if not Stingmon is still a versatile powerful champion).

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I think FlameWizardmon is more likely for Sparks than Sorcerymon. Remember that he is studying fire magic now.

Also, another possibility is that the reason he doesn't want us is because our mutation makes us take longer to reach Champion than it would for Sparks and Beat. We have higher soft and hard caps needed to reach Champion than a typical Rookie does without having bullshit high Talents to compensate like Flamemon did.

Expecting us to be deleted would then be because the squad would be going into battle as if everyone is a Champion even if Verge is still a Rookie.

[X] Plan Magic Fighter : Focus on studying the second spell, along with using your healing in combat.
-[X] Begin to carry stones or something that is heavy all the walking, its training the endurance of Sparks and Beat so you may spend your time increase it too... While also keep learning from High Programming from Ardat. Keep on mind the objetive is becoming a Champion before its too late.

We are with limited time so while we walk and learn how to do magic we need to at least try to train the body of Verge at least on a passive manner. Endurance is our third best trait and for hours Sparks and Beat are training it while we just do basically nothing until the march stops and we can do some training.

[X] Beat, only seems to want to spar with you for reason. Or rather from what you were able to tell from last night's spar he's focused on defeating you. Try to ask him why.

We need to keep polish our battle skills and getting experience against fast digimon can help him to use his Smite.

Todorius said:

So having options to heal, engage from a distance and have spells that inflict great damage to certain opponent will benifit us more in the short-medium term.

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No it isn't. All we know is a basic healing spell and we're not even half way to learn the first basic attack and we don't even have average magic stats! We'll barley heal any real damage and if we even get the spell before combat it's going to amount to nothing.

Not to mention that it's limit to how much mana we have which is basically nothing. At least we can hurt them wih melee.

To simplify my previous point, it seems easy to understand why Scratch wasn't interested in us if you think about things in SRPG terms.

Verge: High Stat Caps + Average Growth Rate
Sparks + Beat: Average Stat Caps + High Growth Rate
(Flamemon): Very High Stat Caps + Very High Growth Rate

Rank these in order of most to least time required to be prepared to fight Champions on a regular basis.

[X] Plan: POWER UP
[x] During the march, train your Str and End by adding weight to your back and walking on all fours. Add more weight when needed to keep the marches hard trying things.
[x] During the camp time, rest and recover for a short bit, before going back to training your str and start pushing yourself with digging and dragging weights.
-[x] Use healing when need to help your vigor and to train your magical reserves.
[x] Beat, only seems to want to spar with you for reason. Or rather from what you were able to tell from last night's spar he's focused on defeating you. Try to ask him why.

[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

[X] Plan Up To Par: Focus on increasing the lowest stats, and bringing them up towards his highest one.
[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

[X] Plan Tank: Focus on Strength, Fortitude and just sparring in general

To those of you who have been referring to Verge as a tank, it's time to put your money where your mouth is.

I'd be fine with anything besides Up To Par tho.

Todorius said:

Btw I didn't know this quest had a discord group, mind if I join?

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Not at all, the more the merrier!

no. said:

[X] Plan Tank: Focus on Strength, Fortitude and just sparring in general

To those of you who have been referring to Verge as a tank, it's time to put your money where your mouth is.

I'd be fine with anything besides Up To Par tho.

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I agree with being against Up To Par, but I also don't think Tank is a good idea either.

Right now the tank of the group is Scratch, who is also the strongest member of the group overall. Trying to copy him is not a route to being seen as useful.

I think we should focus on addressing the things that have been our weaknesses in previous fights. That is, that we can't hit hard enough to deal real damage to some enemies and that other enemies are too fast for us to be able to land hits on or effectively guard against the attacks of.

So that's a focus on Strength and Agility, which is quite different from Up To Par focusing on either Spirit/Special or Agility/Endurance (depending on whether or not esoteric stats count).

justinkal said:

I agree with being against Up To Par, but I also don't think Tank is a good idea either.

Right now the tank of the group is Scratch, who is also the strongest member of the group overall. Trying to copy him is not a route to being seen as useful.

I think we should focus on addressing the things that have been our weaknesses in previous fights. That is, that we can't hit hard enough to deal real damage to some enemies and that other enemies are too fast for us to be able to land hits on or effectively guard against the attacks of.

So that's a focus on Strength and Agility, which is quite different from Up To Par focusing on either Spirit/Special or Agility/Endurance (depending on whether or not esoteric stats count).

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Bold of you to call Scratch a tank when we haven't even seen him fight yet. By champion standards, Gladimon is very much focused on speed and skill.

And I wouldn't really call Strength a weakness when Verge has consistently been able to injure mon more powerful than him when using his drills, with the exception of Repulsa.

Furthermore, the Tank plan does improve Strength alongside Fortitude, so that's one half of your wishlist.

[X] Plan Magic Fighter : Focus on studying the second spell, along with using your healing in combat.
[X] Sergeant Scratch. You don't think he likes you, it's scary but...try to ask him why that is.

I am a simple man with simple wants.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaagic

no. said:

Bold of you to call Scratch a tank when we haven't even seen him fight yet. By champion standards, Gladimon is very much focused on speed and skill.

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Uhh, we already got told that out of Verge's potential Champion forms, Gladimon is the most resilient, and definitely does not have a high Speed requirement.

That implies being focused on Endurance + Fortitude.

[x] Plan Tank: Focus on Strength, Fortitude and just sparring in general
-[X] Begin to carry stones or something that is heavy all the walking, its training the endurance of Sparks and Beat so you may spend your time increase it too... While also keep learning from High Programming from Ardat. Keep on mind the objetive is becoming a Champion before its too late.

Going Tank just for the Sparring bit. Remember, Verge still isn't used to fighting with only one eye.

[x] Beat, only seems to want to spar with you for reason. Or rather from what you were able to tell from last night's spar he's focused on defeating you. Try to ask him why.

Sparring buddy!

justinkal said:

Uhh, we already got told that out of Verge's potential Champion forms, Gladimon is the most resilient, and definitely does not have a high Speed requirement.

That implies being focused on Endurance + Fortitude.

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All of those requirements are based on Demenos' conjecture rather than any kind of statement from Drexal. We can't take that and assume to know the capabilities of a character we've never seen fight. You wouldn't expect a Wormmon to be fast, right? Well, look at Beat.

no. said:

All of those requirements are based on Demenos' conjecture rather than any kind of statement from Drexal. We can't take that and assume to know the capabilities of a character we've never seen fight. You wouldn't expect a Wormmon to be fast, right? Well, look at Beat.

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Uhh, no. What I just referenced actually was a post from Drexal.

drexal15 said:

Er, Gladimon doesn't require high speed. It never has.

I'll also point out that it's the most survivable of the potential champ forms. With arguably the best utility because hands.

Other than that good post, you've earned yourself a bonus point.

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No matter what plan we use, we still loss time marching because we have better endurance than Beat and Spark so even if they get some points there Verge gets to do basically nothing while they train for some hours before they focussed training.

If someone has ideas of how change that say it and... Lets the grinding begin!

BlueArcher said:

If someone has ideas of how change that say it and... Lets the grinding begin!

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I did say it, and some people added it as a write in to their plans.

Carry weights while marching.

Also studying magic while marching.

[X] Plan Magic Fighter : Focus on studying the second spell, along with using your healing in combat.
[X] Beat, only seems to want to spar with you for reason. Or rather from what you were able to tell from last night's spar he's focused on defeating you. Try to ask him why.

justinkal said:

I did say it, and some people added it as a write in to their plans.

Carry weights while marching.

Also studying magic while marching.

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No many do add it so I am asking to having someone making something that its more popular and that a subvote is added to the update Drexal is benevolent and all but I want to be sure that the time isn't loss.