That's what the King/Queen is for.
One-off situations, he/she intervenes.
When it begins to seem systemic, he can call another ConCon.
Paths of Civilization II: Paths of Industrialization
One-off situations, he/she intervenes.
When it begins to seem systemic, he can call another ConCon.
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has literally nothing to do with giving the Lower House the power of the purse in some future ConCon, which will happen anyway, nor does it bear any relevance to the equaling of powers between the houses. In a constitutional monarchy, the King retains a veto.
You're debating in bad faith, and I really don't appreciate that.
Right. Either the disagreements between the two houses will need a constitutional convention to resolve, or they won't. Since we need to have a Modern Democracy to do well, and since to give the LH power of the purse we need to first give the UH the power of purse...
To give the LH the power of the purse IN THIS CON requires giving it to the UH first.
That will not necessarily be true in a later ConCon.
Furthermore, I will note that a Modern Democracy is not incompatible with a constitutional monarchy.
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Says the person who was stating he was only talking about giving both houses minor law making yet 6 posts up was talking about giving the upper house purse.
Which when you asked what we get out of it, well compared to the sketch who have we managed to keep ourselves and our allies out of economic collapse, while they didn't.
My question to marlin was about potential goodies of keeping both of the houses at minor lawmaking.
You conflating that with the sketch and our current situation comes completely out of the blue, and frankly, bears no relevance to the conversation I was having. The Sketch have laissez faire capitalism, which meant they were heavily affected by the economic crash. Laissez faire capitalism is not a system of governance, and the two are completely separate issues.
Once again, debating in bad faith. Really pissing me off.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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That has nothing to do with their government and everything to do with their economics. Like the fact they didn't have a central bank, or really any kind of regulations on their economy, whereas we had the Crown Bank to tank the damage from the crash
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
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I mean. That doesn't spell the end of the monarchy, just its absolute power and ability to disregard the will of large portions of the population.
Who knows, maybe a idealism/romanticism and archeology combo will unlock some interesting gimmicks.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Sketch didn't suffer market crash because they empowered their Parliament, they suffered it because they had unregulated maximum capitalism. Correlation does not equate to causation.
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[X] Plan And Lawmaking for All
-[X] [UH] +1 PW - Minor lawmaking
-[X] [LH] 4 PW - Minor lawmaking (+1 Temp Happiness)
-[X] [Assembly] 2 PW - Broad (+1 Happiness, Min. Consciousness from Education Increased by 1)
-[X] [Press] 2 PW - Free press (-1 Temp Happiness, Min. Consciousness from Education Increased by 1, Academic Freedom Provides Half Consciousness to Innovation)
-[X] [UH] +1 PW - Minor lawmaking
-[X] [LH] 4 PW - Minor lawmaking (+1 Temp Happiness)
-[X] [Assembly] 2 PW - Broad (+1 Happiness, Min. Consciousness from Education Increased by 1)
-[X] [Press] 2 PW - Free press (-1 Temp Happiness, Min. Consciousness from Education Increased by 1, Academic Freedom Provides Half Consciousness to Innovation)
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When the Parliament members are the ones running the economy via mostly governmental means (which everyone wants to copy) Then yes it is.
HanEmpire
Delicious
What are you talking about? The quote you're using says that the businesses operate independently from government control, and that the use of public funds is a form of tolerated abuse. Nowhere does it say that the Sketch operate on State Capitalism. Their Parliament does not control the economy.
He is saying that the Sketch business elite control Parliament, and are thus able to leverage government assets in the military and diplomatic service to private ends. Nothing about government money, and everything about government clout.
It's not State Capitalism.
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The nation of business men are ran by business men, with all parts of the government (Including the fucking military) is thus useable by said business men without complaint and without oversight from other parts of said business man ran government.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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Are you being obtuse on purpose? We're the ones people currently want to copy because we tanked the collapse, not the sketch
HanEmpire
Delicious
This is a meaningless concern for the Dual Crown because its Liberal Businessmen are all in the Lower House.
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Yah, we really need to catch up with the rest of the world.
Yah, we really need to catch up with the rest of the world.
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