It's a trivial amount of money, but if ya'll don't think it will offend Amrelath, I don't mind just telling him to destroy them.

I really don't care how much it costs, I won't be extorted for this nonsense.

He agreed to destroy our enemies, we already have a deal, this is within the bounds of it.

And to be quite frank, that was bullshit too, was he not to serve us in exchange for life?
Not life and gold and magic items.
Life.
 
You know what I'd like to have? The true names of all the Thanadaemons that fled.

I wanna summon them to our gardening party
 
@Goldfish, as helpful as Amrelath has been, he's still a Red Dragon. You need to pay him to destroy the Bonestorms as per our deal him or he'll get mad. It doesn't matter that he can't hold them forever, it was still the deal we made. Anything that he claims in battle, undead or otherwise, is his, and if we want it we need to buy it. We cannot tell him to destroy the Bonestorms and expect him to comply with no complaint.
 
Goldfish, that's moronic.

Cool. What are you going to pay him, then?

I disagree. I think it's actually quite possible, but I don't care enough to make an issue of it. I've updated my plan to tell him to destroy them once they escape his control.

At that point, they are no longer his, but are instead enemies of all living things. To not destroy them would be violating our agreement.
 
Goldfish, that's moronic.

Cool. What are you going to pay him, then?

At this point we need a post stickied for "Deals and Arrangements" because I don't even know who promised what at this stage.

I never understood why he was getting paid to attack Tyrosh when we already had a deal for service in exchange for Life.

You know, that thing he's been craving for literal millennium.
 
Also you're all getting too fixated on the idea of us "paying for the Bonestorms". We're not paying for them.

We're paying for Amrelath's contribution to the battle... which was significant.

Mentally reframe the terms to what it ultimately comes out to: "Paying for services rendered". If Dany used Dragon Ally at any point in this battle we'd probably be paying more than we would Amrelath on discounted CR.
Adhoc vote count started by Crake on May 4, 2018 at 8:40 PM, finished with 186442 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Plan Focus
    -[X] Let Amrealth keep them.
    -[X] Go speak with the Red Priests.
    --[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
    [X] Plan Thanks, but no thanks.
    -[X] Tell Amrelath to destroy the Bonestorms once they escape his control.
    -[X] Speak to the Red Priests
    --[X] Thank the priests for offering to help, but order them to keep their forces contained in their temple. We have kept the city from descending into an orgy of chaos and death through meticulous planning and well established lines of communication. The Fiery Hand would not be briefed on our plans, nor have access to our methods of communication, and we do not wish for them to be set upon by any of our forces who might mistake them for enemies. They can rest assured that the institution of slavery will be abolished in Tyrosh within hours.
    -[X] Go help one of the other groups after speaking to the Red Priests.
    --[X] Group 2 (Garin, Wyla, Maelor, Vee, Spyglass Archon)
    [X] Let Amrelath continue
    [X] Speak to the Red Priests
    -[X] Tell them that their aid is unnecesary to secure the city and that you already plan on freeing the slaves, that much should be clear.
    -[X] Ask if his men know of any places that requieres particular protection, or if he has any advice on how to proceed so that more lives can be saved, we could use his local knowledge.
 
There's two ways this goes down:
1) Let him keep them for all of fifteen minutes. It's night, it's raining, 99.9999% of people won't even notice something amiss, much less suspect what it is.
2) Pay him something to relinquish control early,
 
[X] TotallyNotEvil

Honestly, while I expect some rumors I would be incredibly shocked if people could actually clearly figure out what's going with the giant mass of bones and trash in the whole 15 minutes Amraleth can control them considering everything fucking else that's going on.
 
"That mass of monsters is killing that other mass of monsters... and now that mass of monster is killing that previous mass of monsters."

"And that monster mass follows the King of Monsters."

"That is a good title."

"Innit though?"
 
@Azel, @Diomedon, @TotallyNotEvil

We should have service ribbons for our Legionnaires made. One for those who served in the conquest and another for those who fought Daemons.

I wonder how many soldiers we lost? Considering their extremely high pay, it wouldn't be unreasonable to Reincarnate them, if the numbers are reasonable, and dock their pay by half until the cost of the spell's material components are covered.
 
I wonder how many soldiers we lost? Considering their extremely high pay, it wouldn't be unreasonable to Reincarnate them, if the numbers are reasonable, and dock their pay by half until the cost of the spell's material components are covered.

It would set an unreasonable precedent.
 
@Azel, @Diomedon, @TotallyNotEvil

We should have service ribbons for our Legionnaires made. One for those who served in the conquest and another for those who fought Daemons.

Perhaps one for this particular Invasion, do not give one for facing Daemons.

Let everyone be proud of saving the city, whether they did or did not end up facing Daemons every single one of them was ready and willing to do so and they're efforts should not be diminished or lauded for pure luck.

Overall I'd rather avoid the concept entirely.

The Legion is Many and One.

The Legion took Tyrosh, the Legion fought Daemons, the Legion will protect the innocent from Deep Ones.

Tie the glory to the greater whole, increases bond between our Legionnaires whereas service ribbons could in theory fracture them.

"You don't know what we've been through, you fought Unsullied? Be glad" etc.
 
I wonder how many soldiers we lost? Considering their extremely high pay, it wouldn't be unreasonable to Reincarnate them, if the numbers are reasonable, and dock their pay by half until the cost of the spell's material components are covered.
We're still keeping our ability to bring back the dead a secret. In the far future, maybe. A couple volunteers who'd like to be kobolds, sure. But not now.

The secret aside, the thread was raising a huge fuss about how Tyrosh was going to cost a crap-ton in infrastructure and feeding the city. Even you were adamantly against buying the Dornish Sand Steeds, citing that we'd need the money for Tyrosh.
I'm not opposed to acquiring more of Doran's horses in a couple months, but right now I would rather not make any exorbitantly large purchases prior to the invasion of Tyrosh.
And now you're proposing to reincarnate the fallen legionnaires when each reincarnation drains us of 200 IM?
 
It would set an unreasonable precedent.

Not really? The spell is only effective if someone has been dead for no longer than one week. At the absolute most, if Vee dedicated all of her relevant spell slots to casting Reincarnate, she could cast the spell 18 times per day. If cast every day for a week, that's 126 Reincarnations, at a cost of 25,000 IM.

It would be a heavy up front cost, but would eventually pay for itself in the reduced salaries of those Reincarnated.

Or we could set up some sort of lottery, Reincarnating random Legion soldiers? Maybe just do ten Reincarnations a day.

And there would be the issue of soldiers returning as numerous non-human species, but it's better than being dead, right? That has to be good for morale in a way that great equipment and stupidly high pay just can't engender.
 
We're still keeping our ability to bring back the dead a secret. In the far future, maybe. A couple volunteers who'd like to be kobolds, sure. But not now.

The secret aside, the thread was raising a huge fuss about how Tyrosh was going to cost a crap-ton in infrastructure and feeding the city. Even you were adamantly against buying the Dornish Sand Steeds, citing that we'd need the money for Tyrosh.

And now you're proposing to reincarnate the fallen legionnaires when each reincarnation drains us of 200 IM?

That was before the financial system got a huge overhaul, thanks to @Azel. We are going to start having a significantly higher income next turn, due in part to Tyrosh and from our raiding effort moving away from merely capturing slaver vessels, to enforcing the Stepstones toll. Plus our business ventures are going to start paying dividends in a major way.
 
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