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Detailed here in The Viserys Parliament.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Also, this is John, nice chap, just starting out as a mage. He'll be the one getting your special pay* for you.
*Bear asses, the special pay is bear asses.
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Off the top of my head, semi-urgent things that need to be crafted in the coming months
Crafting Arcanum + Equipment + Dedicated Wright
Bard Arcanum + Equipment + Lyre of Building
Infrastructure stuff like waterworks and whispering braziers
Mass-produced constructs for the Legions (wyrmlings, mainly)
Boots of the Wide Earth (Teleport Boots) for Dany, Malarys, Tyene, and Rina
Greater Ribbons of Disguise for everyone important (CL 3, can be crafted by Leila)
Glamered Enchantments on the fullplates of Dany, Tyene, Vee, and Rina
Amulet of Tears effects on everyone's PfE Amulets (CL 4, can be crafted by Leila)
Gloves of Dexterity for Viserys
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Crafting Arcanum + Equipment + Dedicated Wright
Bard Arcanum + Equipment + Lyre of Building
Infrastructure stuff like waterworks and whispering braziers
Mass-produced constructs for the Legions (wyrmlings, mainly)
Boots of the Wide Earth (Teleport Boots) for Dany, Malarys, Tyene, and Rina
Greater Ribbons of Disguise for everyone important (CL 3, can be crafted by Leila)
Glamered Enchantments on the fullplates of Dany, Tyene, Vee, and Rina
Amulet of Tears effects on everyone's PfE Amulets (CL 4, can be crafted by Leila)
Gloves of Dexterity for Viserys
Sacrifice Spear
iggyfan
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You forget making Rina's armor in the first place.
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That's already being taken care of. She's not going into battle with no armor. Enchant the armor? Yes, that needs to be done. But it'll be made.
Goldfish
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Valeria can craft all of her own equipment, though she will need some collaboration from others in order to craft her Grimoire. Once that's complete, though, she'll be able to do all the crafting on her own.
She'll be able to do the Greater Ribbons of Disguise, the Glamer enchantments, etc.
We'll need to see if Lya can craft Valeria her own Dedicated Wright, though. That would be a huge help.
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Along with that I want to see if Lya can craft a Dedicated Wright for Leila.
Goldfish
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That would be nice, but it'll be a tough sell, too. The only reason I even suggested it for Valeria is because she and Lya are so closely related, considering one created the other from magic and a piece of her own soul.
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I actually asked DP about it a while ago and he said to try it out and see if it works. 25 IM's not a huge sacrifice for an experiment like this, especially if it's successful.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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I wonder how DP is going to write the invasion? I know that Viserys and the various Companion groups will get a lot of screen time, but various interludes from different PoVs (Legion soldier, Tyroshi Magister, Tyroshi slave, etc) would be so awesome.
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DP had it that Lelia could not get a homocolus (DW) from lya as lelia does not have the feat, I think, even if the arcanum can't cast fabricate, craft construct will suffice for that.
Also, are you talking about homocouli actually, because I thought they were 400 gold worth of mats each?
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I asked DP much later on if we could do a research action to see if we could give Leila her own wright, and he told me we were free to test it out instead of a blanket "no, you can't do that." So I'm pretty hopeful, especially since we've gotten quite a bit better at pulling off rituals.
As for the wrights, you've got the price slightly mixed up.
25 IM is the original price. If you want to make it stronger, for each extra Hit Die it costs 400 IM.
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Awesomeeeee
Yeah, cool about the Lelia thing, tbh, would prefer a DW to the blink dog and get her to have one sooner, but the arcanum should not need one I think (unless it's not got craft construct).
Also, I am 100% in favour of having the crafter be earth aligned so it won't be as bored.
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I don't think the DW takes up any familiar slots, so we should be fine getting Leila both the DW and the Blink Dog. As for the Arcanum, we're going to be giving her one because she's not just going to be crafting, she's also going to do research and teach in the Scholarum. Also... I don't think she's going to be earth-aligned. We can't really wait that long, especially since Sothoryos apparently won't happen next turn, and I doubt Lya will get enough XP from Tyrosh. Crafting Arcanum needs to be made ASAP, and we just can't afford to postpone her creation to wait for our favored lore.
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I just wanted Lelia to have gotten a DW sooner than now tbh. Oh! We should ask if we want to check if her torturer is in the city a day or two after we take it. She just needs to use the wayfinder for a moment.
Regarding Arcanum: *Glares*
All good points, can't disagree, still want earth lore despite the numbers. Sigh.
I wonder how many life or death situations we can throw Lya into asap, with not too many party memebers with her in the near future.
Well, I can't remember the build off the top of my head, but I just hope that the craft bot dosen't have air in it.
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It's probably not going to happen.I just wanted Lelia to have gotten a DW sooner than now tbh. Oh!
Regarding Arcanum: *Glares*
All good points, can't disagree, still want earth lore despite the numbers. Sigh.
I wonder how many life or death situations we can throw Lya into asap, with not too many party memebers with her in the near future.
Well, I can't remember the build off the top of my head, but I just hope that the craft bot dosen't have air in it.
Lya has 7298 XP to gain before level 14, and even then she'd need to go beyond that since the Arcanums eat XP for the crafting process. I have high hopes for Tyrosh, but I know full well there's no way she gets enough XP out of this. That was a big reason I wanted to go to Sothoryos before it ended up getting pushed back.That aside, here's Valeria's build:
Crafting Arcanum
She's a Water-Law Arcanum. If we wanted to we could sneak in Positive as well, that might make her a better teacher since she'd more easily relate to her students. I'd deem that worth the extra costs and crafting times.
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It's probably not going to happen.
That aside, here's Valeria's build:
Crafting Arcanum
She's a Water-Law Arcanum. If we wanted to we could sneak in Positive as well, that might make her a better teacher since she'd more easily relate to her students. I'd deem that worth the extra costs and crafting times.
A positive arcanum is a healer also, and a 3 element aracnum is the next step to Lya's FINAL FORM that she can start working towards at level 10.
Gonna be so awesome
Healing from negative and positive energy, lots of bonuses to stats, Su abilities.
Hmm, one big thing I dislike is the penalty to Int from the earth lore. I wonder if jigging those stat modifiers would be possible/reasonable/a good idea.
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"STR +4, CON +6, -2 INT, -2 WIS, -2 CHA, burrow speed equal to 1/2 of base land speed, +4 natural armor, DR 1/- per 2 HD"
Drop the Str by 2 to balance out the int, and possibly the Con by two for the wis (earth things tend to be "wise" imo). Sorted, no casting stat loss.
But on a second look, a negative energy infusion into lya's battle body gives tomb tainted soul, but the positive lore says nothing about balance if both are in one person. Hopefully we can work how that might work with DP, or if it needs IC work, just throw money and time at it
Drop the Str by 2 to balance out the int, and possibly the Con by two for the wis (earth things tend to be "wise" imo). Sorted, no casting stat loss
.But on a second look, a negative energy infusion into lya's battle body gives tomb tainted soul, but the positive lore says nothing about balance if both are in one person. Hopefully we can work how that might work with DP, or if it needs IC work, just throw money and time at it
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Ultimately our answer is subversion, full-stop, either with his complicity or forced by enchantment.
There's some added benefit to trying to go out of our way to convince him to help us, for one thing long-term, resorting to enchantment is sort of a desperation measure by virtue of how clumsily it always plays out, as evidenced by our numerous enemies or circumstantial foes. It is rarely a good strategy to employ for any plan that takes more than 24 hours to pan out.
For him to disappear/be "killed" in some unfortunate dust-up in the invasion makes such a tactic viable, but having the willing and able support of the good captain will probably be more useful in the aftermath. In addition, we would have had to deal with Mero no matter what, since he's a needless complication to an already byzantine battle plan.
There's some added benefit to trying to go out of our way to convince him to help us, for one thing long-term, resorting to enchantment is sort of a desperation measure by virtue of how clumsily it always plays out, as evidenced by our numerous enemies or circumstantial foes. It is rarely a good strategy to employ for any plan that takes more than 24 hours to pan out.
For him to disappear/be "killed" in some unfortunate dust-up in the invasion makes such a tactic viable, but having the willing and able support of the good captain will probably be more useful in the aftermath. In addition, we would have had to deal with Mero no matter what, since he's a needless complication to an already byzantine battle plan.
Consensus?
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I was hoping that no-one would mention that...
As a French person, I want to remind people that even in France that part of the French Revolution isn't exactly remembered with pride. We call it "the Terror" in history books. Indeed, a great many people think that it was all-around a bad decision that tainted the memory of the start of the revolution, and that led to the eventual return of dictatorship and even ******* monarchy. Getting rid of an absolute monarchy was pretty much the entire point of the Revolution! And this made absolute rulers return!
@tarrangar:
Do we want slavery to eventually return, or to return in a form like the "bondsmen" of Pentos? Do we want chaos, massacres and horrible consequences in our legal traditions for decades to come? Because all that happened in France, you know.
No, "retroactive slave justice" isn't actually justice, nor is it feasible. The old laws were wrong and unjust, but retroactive legislation is never just or convenient.
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