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Don't ask me, all these plans are partially likeable; also hard to find.
Why shouldn't I ask you? You voted for it! It's nothing personal, but mass-pinging voters is discouraged so I asked the most recent one while it was fresh. The question stands to various voters at large.

Seriously. The Articles of Magic are all Sigmar's Holy Empire this and Sigmar's Holy Empire that and Emperor of Sigmar's Holy Empire this and Electors of Sigmar's Holy Empire that. It's one thing to give an assessment that Mathilde has been a dutiful servant of the Empire so far. It's quite another to assert that the Empire should rule everyone, as the leading assessment apparently does.
 
In other words, we're spending the next five years as a crappy warrior.

I'm going to state I believe that this is wrong. Mathilde is a good warrior and more than capable of holding her own on the battlefield. It might not be the best use of her talents, but she certainly isn't a terrible warrior.
 
[X] Third Person Report A

[X] Enchantment Commissions
[X] Enchantment Services
[X] Lectures and Demonstrations
[X] Taking on Apprentices
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed

[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.
 
Personally I don't get why everyone suppost Plan Colegiate Loyalties when it's a dry, emotionless checklist similar to those over-planning horror votes that were shown earlier as examples of bad over-specific voting done in some quests. Then again, we've had a grand total of only two plans for the vote, so I suspect most all of us were unprepared to try to answer the question BoneyM asked of us.
 
[X] Plan Collegiate Loyalties
-[X] Grey College - High
--[X] Debt of gratitude for retaining sanity and health through being born with magic.
--[X] Familial loyalty to Master
--[X] Academic interest in the preservation and perpetuation of discoveries
--[X] Self preservation in maintaining Wizard status within Empire for safety reasons.
--[X] Ambition in maintaining access to College resources and knowledge for the purpose of self improvement in the field of magic. It is very unlikely to obtain knowledge of similar depth in any one area, and impossible to do so for broader areas.
-[X] Empire - High
--[X] Belief in the ideal of Mankind United under the Empire for the betterment of all.
--[X] Obedience to the Laws of the Empire as the premier force for Order in the world.
--[X] Oath to the Articles of Magic, to act in the interests of the Empire.
--[X] Duty as a Wizard of the Grey College to obey the Grey College, transferred from duty of the Grey College to follow the lead of the collective Colleges, transfered from the collective Colleges loyalty to the Empire.
--[X] Duty as a Knight of Stirland to the Elector Count of Stirland, transferred from the duty of the duty of the Elector Count to the Empire
--[X] Self preservation from the Enemies of Man, Undead, Orc and Chaos would be free to wreak havoc without the intact Empire to protect its people from those.
--[X] Practical utility in acquiring assets, equipment and common services requires the continuance of civilization.
-[X] Humanity - Modest
--[X] Religious beliefs mandate the protection and furtherance of humanity.
--[X] Personal ethics seeks to minimize unnecessary harm to humanity in general.

[X] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College on your estate in Stirland.

[X] Enchantment Commissions
[X] Enchantment Services
[X] Lectures and Demonstrations
[X] Taking on Apprentices
[X] Interrogation
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
[] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College on your estate in Stirland.

I very, very much don't like that. Don't get me wrong, please. It's not by itself - it's great choice, and it does allow us to add more characters and make our life more interesting.

But security.

Branch of Gray College will be next door to Mathilde. Or even within Mathilde's house - after all it's not like she'll have all that much room in close future. So she won't get much of magical privacy. Any hint of Dhar? Even by accident? People notice. Any questionable experiment with Ulgu? People notice.

Mathilde wanting to make some private research and tests? She needs to go to separate, secret place. And preople notices that.

Any other order I would be less worried about, but we are speaking about Gray Wizards. Sneaks and spies a lot of them. So yes, it is very interesting option, but I thing we should steer clear of it for now. I do not want to put a group of curious mages in close vicinity of secrets that can get Mathilde hanged. We do know that s**t happens in a quest, and Randal is a bastard at times. And I do not want Mathilde to have to flee the Empire.


Barring building a branch:

[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] Seeking knowledge by investigating the phenomena and manifestations of Sylvania.

[X] Enchantment Commissions (payment in cash)
[X] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[X] Interrogation
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Research and Cataloguing (biological)
[X] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
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Why shouldn't I ask you? You voted for it! It's nothing personal, but mass-pinging voters is discouraged so I asked the most recent one while it was fresh. The question stands to various voters at large.

Seriously. The Articles of Magic are all Sigmar's Holy Empire this and Sigmar's Holy Empire that and Emperor of Sigmar's Holy Empire this and Electors of Sigmar's Holy Empire that. It's one thing to give an assessment that Mathilde has been a dutiful servant of the Empire so far. It's quite another to assert that the Empire should rule everyone, as the leading assessment apparently does.

While I have no love for Sigmar, the empire, or any combination thereof; the empire is the biggest umbrella with most resources Mathilde have access to. The decentralized feudal empire setup would serverly weaken Sigmar cult's control and influence when there are more or bigger provinces each fighting for their own interest as well. And if Mathilde's distaste of Sigmar extended to hatred of empire, then we are better off getting a helicopter ride to nearest port and get a ride to lizard land.
 
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.

[X] Enchantment Commissions (payment in cash)
[X] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[X] Interrogation
[X] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
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@Exmoorri it's probably too late now, but because your vote is titled "[] Third Person Report A" instead of "[] Plan Third Person Report A", the vote tracker doesn't count it as a plan and your vote is by default tallied seperately from everyone else's.

Then again, I'm not sure most voters have even noticed there's an alternate to Veekie's plan in the first place.
Adhoc vote count started by Derpmind on Mar 23, 2018 at 2:24 PM, finished with 12079 posts and 66 votes.
 
Why don't we just hold off on something 110% full-time like opening a college branch until we've adventured a bit and have gotten to Battle Wizard? We can do it at literally any other time, but Karak Eight Peaks can only be done right now.
Because trying to wrest a dwarfhold back from Greenskins or whatever is likely to kill us, while opening a branch college is only damaging to mind and soul?

We're not a Battle Wizard, I have my doubts about how useful we'll be on a dwarven battlefield; we weren't exactly getting stuck in on the assault on Castle Drakenhof.
Those shyish-kebabs really should be turned over to the Amethyst Order.
I'm sure Mathilde is feeling reeeaal kindly towards the Amethyst Order huh
 
[x] Third Person Report A
-[x] Evidence suggests that Journeywoman Mathilde Weber has an exceptionally high level of dedication to the Empire foremost. Beyond the ties and duties mandated by the Articles of Magic, there is also her dutiful work in the service of Stirland, the Knighthood that she requested from the Elector Count thereof and received with due affirmation, and upon the death of said Elector Count, both her decision to continue and her thorough execution of his crusade against the vile undead. Weber has also built a good rapport with the Dwarfs, closest allies of the Empire, and shown a willingness to overcome personal prejudices in appealing to the Light College for aid against enemies of the Empire. Her contacts in Altdorf and Stirland provide further motivation for her to wish the continued health of the Empire, above and beyond the the normal ties of a human citizen that would naturally hope to live in a country populated by fellow humans speaking the same language. However, it must be noted that Weber is a worshipper of Ranald rather than Sigmar.
-[x] Weber's dedication to the Grey College is also solidly loyal but not as personally zealous. It took prodding from her Master to get her to return to the College from journeying, but when she did, she demonstrated high aptitude and appetite for learning. Weber also has the gratitude that might be expected of a Wizard towards her College: for tutoring, for safety, for social and legal protection, for credit, for other services provided.
-[x] Weber's dedication to humanity is as high as might reasonably be expected from a wizard of low birth. Despite near execution by paranoid peasants in her childhood, her battles in Sylvania speak of a woman willing to fight for the living against the dead. As with most humans, she is less than entirely self-sufficient and therefore to an extent dependent on the existence of a human society to acquire goods and services.
I like the approach and revelation of a few flaws, and think it will get a better reaction than the other one. This is a job interview, of sorts. This plan doesn't include rote-sounding, unverifiable statements about our motivations. And isn't lying through our teeth about believing that everyone belongs in Sigmars Holy Empire.

[x] Third Person Report A

[x] Plan Third Person Report A

(Edit: @VoidZero see above)
 
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We would be a good help to dwarfs because we can dispel that alone is a good reason to have us around in a fight.
Runepriests can Dispel. We'd be of minor value unless and until we're a Battle Wizard.

Just like the Purge, vote to go if you want Mathilde to go for personal reasons (and maybe get killed). Not because we'll be the difference between success and failure. Without Batlle Magic, we won't.
 
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Runepriests can Dispel. We'd be of minor value unless and until we're a Battle Wizard.
We are an incredibly sneaky scout thanks to our magic and training. We are an extremely skilled and trustworthy warrior, who's proven herself in the battlefield. We're also a wizard, who can cast spells and dispel even when we aren't able to directly fight in melee.

We are an extremely useful swiss army knife. We aren't going to be single-handedly deciding the course of the battle, but any commander we work with would be glad to have us by his side.
 
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Thank you~

@Exmorri

I do not agree with the reporting structure of "Third person" plan, it seems like self-incriminating or self-reporting to the college/spy agency for no good reason. The thing about nondescript slogans is its difficulty to disprove and ease to prove. The college will be vetting Mathilde regardless, so there really isn't a need to write much on a paper with unknown destination.
 
Thank you~

@Exmorri

I do not agree with the reporting structure of "Third person" plan, it seems like self-incriminating or self-reporting to the college/spy agency for no good reason. The thing about nondescript slogans is its difficulty to disprove and ease to prove. The college will be vetting Mathilde regardless, so there really isn't a need to write much on a paper with unknown destination.
The point on self-reporting is- when they do investigate and if they find something noteworthy that we didn't mention, it will be worse than if we self-declare.
 
I like the third person Report A,except for the part where we talk about our Ranald worship. Who we worship isn't important (besides the Chaos Four), and one of the major tenants of Ranald worship is not talking about Ranald.
 
The point on self-reporting is- when they do investigate and if they find something noteworthy that we didn't mention, it will be worse than if we self-declare.

Paranoid people will suspect declared stuff and think there are more serious stuff to dig up. And if they did find something we are boned. Damn book or perpetual rainbow juice generator aren't something journeyman or young magister gets to keep. So say nothing that is incriminating and let public achievements express itself.
 
[] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College on your estate in Stirland.
It's worth noting that, in spite of the incessant copy/pasting of the original option, the one currently presented in the update (since a very short while after it went up) actually reads like this:
[ ] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College in Stirland, possibly on your estate.
Which is to say, we could put the Grey College branch into any place in Stirland that we can swing politically, and our estate is only one possibility. We aren't necessarily having everyone move into Mathilde's house.

That said, the overall thrust of your argument seems more focused on the idea that having too many Grey Wizards around is bad in general, because they're nosy and Mathilde has secrets worth keeping, and that remains true no matter where we build it.
 
[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.

We are Mathilde the Grey.

Also, just re-read our character sheet and I have to say, we've grown pretty awesome. Except for diplomacy.:p
 
[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
 
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