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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Approval voting. I don't want to run a college chapterhouse.

[x] Third Person Report A

[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[x] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.
[x] Seeking knowledge by investigating the phenomena and manifestations of Sylvania.
[X] Seeking adventure as the second coming of Nagash, searching for ways to overcome the final enemy of life. (you won't actually write this on the paper, but choose it if this is what you want Mathilde to do)

[x] Interrogation
[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
[X] Taking on Apprentices
 
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.

[x] Interrogation
[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
[X] Taking on Apprentices
[X] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)

Aaah, do I love the smell of Irondrakes in the morning.
 
[X] Plan Collegiate Loyalties
Sure, why not.

[X] Seeking employ as an advisor to an Elector of the Empire.
[X] Seeking employ as an advisor in one of the Dwarfholds.
I greatly enjoyed Advisor Quest and would gladly play again.

[X] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.
[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Azul.
Sounds like fun.

[] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College on your estate in Stirland.
...it does have the advantage of Royally Pissing Off the arsehole of an EC that threw our life down the drain. But I really don't want to stay in Stirland.

[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
Having looked at the convoluted mess that is the Vote Tally this looks like the only option likely to get us out of this Ranald forsaken province.

[X] Enchantment Commissions (payment in cash)
[X] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
Enchanting, research and Quest hooks. What is not to like?
 
BoneyM said:
In what you're desperately hoping is unrelated news, Altdorf is in mourning; the Empress and her unborn son have died.
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Thus continuing the Quest's tradition of critfails insta-killing minor characters.

[X] Plan Third Person Report A
-[X] Evidence suggests that Journeywoman Mathilde Weber has an exceptionally high level of dedication to the Empire foremost. Beyond the ties and duties mandated by the Articles of Magic, there is also her dutiful work in the service of Stirland, the Knighthood that she requested from the Elector Count thereof and received with due affirmation, and upon the death of said Elector Count, both her decision to continue and her thorough execution of his crusade against the vile undead. Weber has also built a good rapport with the Dwarfs, closest allies of the Empire, and shown a willingness to overcome personal prejudices in appealing to the Light College for aid against enemies of the Empire. Her contacts in Altdorf and Stirland provide further motivation for her to wish the continued health of the Empire, above and beyond the the normal ties of a human citizen that would naturally hope to live in a country populated by fellow humans speaking the same language. However, it must be noted that Weber is a worshipper of Ranald rather than Sigmar.
-[X] Weber's dedication to the Grey College is also solidly loyal but not as personally zealous. It took prodding from her Master to get her to return to the College from journeying, but when she did, she demonstrated high aptitude and appetite for learning. Weber also has the gratitude that might be expected of a Wizard towards her College: for tutoring, for safety, for social and legal protection, for credit, for other services provided.
-[X] Weber's dedication to humanity is as high as might reasonably be expected from a wizard of low birth. Despite near execution by paranoid peasants in her childhood, her battles in Sylvania speak of a woman willing to fight for the living against the dead. As with most humans, she is less than entirely self-sufficient and therefore to an extent dependent on the existence of a human society to acquire goods and services.

[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.

I am less than enthused by the branch campus option. It's a good option, yes, but I think some time away from management activities would be much more interesting. Plus, the tooless enchantment trait is absolutley perfect for adventuring, but useless when we have ready access to an enchanting lab.

[X] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Research and Cataloguing (biological)
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed

[X] Plan Adventure
 
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[X] Seeking adventure as the second coming of Nagash, searching for ways to overcome the final enemy of life. (you won't actually write this on the paper, but choose it if this is what you want Mathilde to do)
Oh hey, better make sure my vote will show up properly.
 
[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[x] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.
[x] Seeking knowledge by investigating the phenomena and manifestations of Sylvania.
[x] Interrogation
[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
[X] Taking on Apprentices
 
[X] Seeking adventure as the second coming of Nagash, searching for ways to overcome the final enemy of life. (you won't actually write this on the paper, but choose it if this is what you want Mathilde to do)

Was going to make a joke about Femgash but then I read the name back...
 
Angelform said:
[X] Plan Collegiate Loyalties
Sure, why not.
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Well, I don't know what you might think about this in particular, but I think one reason why not Collegiate Loyalties might be its "Belief in the ideal of Mankind United under the Empire for the betterment of all" entry. I've seen little sign of this ideal to date. It does not seem to be an accurate assessment of Mathilde's past dedication and I don't like it as a spur-of-the-moment innovation.
 
Sinsystems said:
So anyone able to tell how the votes are going at the moment because I can't figure out what is winning?
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Going 'By Line'… it is still a convoluted mess but I think:
Karak Eight Peaks has 14, including the Plan votes.
Branch Campus has 13, split in two when the GM edited the option.
Investigating Sylvania has 12.
Karak Varn has 10, split in two (due to spelling?)

Exmorri said:
Well, I don't know what you might think about this in particular, but I think one reason why not Collegiate Loyalties might be its "Belief in the ideal of Mankind United under the Empire for the betterment of all" entry. I've seen little sign of this ideal to date. It does not seem to be an accurate assessment of Mathilde's past dedication and I don't like it as a spur-of-the-moment innovation.
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As the guy who wants to go conquer Tilea in for the Empire I'm all for it. :D
 
[X] Plan Collegiate Loyalties
-[X] Grey College - High
--[X] Debt of gratitude for retaining sanity and health through being born with magic.
--[X] Familial loyalty to Master
--[X] Academic interest in the preservation and perpetuation of discoveries
--[X] Self preservation in maintaining Wizard status within Empire for safety reasons.
--[X] Ambition in maintaining access to College resources and knowledge for the purpose of self improvement in the field of magic. It is very unlikely to obtain knowledge of similar depth in any one area, and impossible to do so for broader areas.
-[X] Empire - High
--[X] Belief in the ideal of Mankind United under the Empire for the betterment of all.
--[X] Obedience to the Laws of the Empire as the premier force for Order in the world.
--[X] Oath to the Articles of Magic, to act in the interests of the Empire.
--[X] Duty as a Wizard of the Grey College to obey the Grey College, transferred from duty of the Grey College to follow the lead of the collective Colleges, transfered from the collective Colleges loyalty to the Empire.
--[X] Duty as a Knight of Stirland to the Elector Count of Stirland, transferred from the duty of the duty of the Elector Count to the Empire
--[X] Self preservation from the Enemies of Man, Undead, Orc and Chaos would be free to wreak havoc without the intact Empire to protect its people from those.
--[X] Practical utility in acquiring assets, equipment and common services requires the continuance of civilization.
-[X] Humanity - Modest
--[X] Religious beliefs mandate the protection and furtherance of humanity.
--[X] Personal ethics seeks to minimize unnecessary harm to humanity in general.

[X] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College on your estate in Stirland.

[X] Enchantment Commissions
[X] Enchantment Services
[X] Lectures and Demonstrations
[X] Taking on Apprentices
[X] Interrogation
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
When assessing our own loyalty, I would be careful not to sing our own praises too highly, it makes us look dishonest. Pick out a few indiscretions here and there, like our embezzlement, to play devil's advocate with.
 
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[X] Seeking employ as an advisor to an Elector of the Empire.
[X] Seeking employ as an advisor in one of the Dwarfholds.
[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.
 
[X] Third Person Report A

[X] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] Seeking adventure as a mercenary, ideally with Asarnil the Dragonlord, and possibly build a Mercenary Company of your own.
[X] Seeking knowledge by investigating the phenomena and manifestations of Sylvania.

[X] Interrogation
[X] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[X] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
Imrix said:
When assessing our own loyalty, I would be careful not to sing our own praises lightly. Pick out a few indiscretions here and there, like our embezzlement, to play devil's advocate with.
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I would like to point out that the exam question is not to assess our own loyalty.

The exam question is: assess Journeywoman Mathilde Weber's level of dedication.

And while the two things overlap enough that "very loyal" could reasonably be given as an answer, I think some amount of fanon-drift and game of telephone is starting to set in to the point where it's worth a reminder of what the original said.

(also go update Ulthuan pls)
 
[x] Seeking employ as an advisor to an Elector of the Empire.
[x] Seeking employ as an advisor in one of the Dwarfholds.
[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[x] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.
[x] Seeking adventure as the second coming of Nagash, searching for ways to overcome the final enemy of life. (you won't actually write this on the paper, but choose it if this is what you want Mathilde to do)


And, finally, Should you reach Magisterial rank, you are expected to contribute to the wellbeing of the Grey College in the manner/s of your choosing. Select all of the below Collegiate Responsibilities that you are willing and able to perform.

(omitting those you're unable to do or are ill-suited to any of your future plans)
[x] Enchantment Commissions (payment in cash)
[x] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[x] Lectures and Demonstrations
[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
I'd quite like to continue backing the gong farmers so as to keep eyes under the the towns of Stirland. That fits best with the branch college and researcher combo. On the other hand, I also want a bit of freedom to go on adventures and I suspect crises will occasionally take us away anyway so getting a competent and trustworthy deputy would be a priority. It's something a journeyman could do perhaps.

We aren't going to crack all the possibilities of the juice and kebabs in a single season so we'll have business in Stirland for a while anyway - the kebabs are stable but the juice keeps accumulating so we want to do that research before we commit to years elsewhere.

Branch college isn't really compatible with long term service with an elector count or a dwarf hold but could fit with the other options once we're up and running.

We don't need to enchant for commissions - we already have an embarrassment of wealth - but favours are always useful.

[X] Plan Collegiate Loyalties (non expansionist)
-[X] Grey College - High
--[X] Debt of gratitude for retaining sanity and health through being born with magic.
--[X] Familial loyalty to Master
--[X] Academic interest in the preservation and perpetuation of discoveries
--[X] Self preservation in maintaining Wizard status within Empire for safety reasons.
--[X] Ambition in maintaining access to College resources and knowledge for the purpose of self improvement in the field of magic. It is very unlikely to obtain knowledge of similar depth in any one area, and impossible to do so for broader areas.
-[X] Empire - High
--[X] Obedience to the Laws of the Empire as the premier force for Order in the world.
--[X] Oath to the Articles of Magic, to act in the interests of the Empire.
--[X] Duty as a Wizard of the Grey College to obey the Grey College, transferred from duty of the Grey College to follow the lead of the collective Colleges, transfered from the collective Colleges loyalty to the Empire.
--[X] Duty as a Knight of Stirland to the Elector Count of Stirland, transferred from the duty of the duty of the Elector Count to the Empire
--[X] Self preservation from the Enemies of Man, Undead, Orc and Chaos would be free to wreak havoc without the intact Empire to protect its people from those.
--[X] Practical utility in acquiring assets, equipment and common services requires the continuance of civilization.
-[X] Humanity - Modest
--[X] Religious beliefs mandate the protection and furtherance of humanity.
--[X] Personal ethics seeks to minimize unnecessary harm to humanity in general.


[x] Seeking knowledge by building a branch campus of the Grey College in Stirland, possibly on your estate.
-[x] Up for any of these if the commitment to the above permits.
--[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
--[x] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks
--[x] Seeking knowledge by investigating the phenomena and manifestations of Sylvania.

And, finally, Should you reach Magisterial rank, you are expected to contribute to the wellbeing of the Grey College in the manner/s of your choosing. Select all of the below Collegiate Responsibilities that you are willing and able to perform.

[x] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[x] Lectures and Demonstrations
[x] Tutoring
[x] Taking on Apprentices
[x] Interrogation
[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
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[x] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)
[x] Lectures and Demonstrations
[x] Tutoring
[x] Taking on Apprentices
[x] Interrogation
[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to investigate reports of unsanctioned magic-users.
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed
 
[x] Third Person Report A

[x] Seeking employ as an advisor to an Elector of the Empire.
[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.

[x] Enchantment Services (payment in College rep)

[x] Research and Development (thaumaturgical) (ie. stuff derived from Shyish-Kebabs and Qhaysh juice)
[x] Being available to intervene in matters of great import as needed

As far as investigating the unsanctioned goes - I never did like Nightmares of Futures Past.
 
Guys, guys, Karak Eight Peaks is happening right now.

Remember this is a five-year plan.

Why don't we just hold off on something 110% full-time like opening a college branch until we've adventured a bit and have gotten to Battle Wizard? We can do it at literally any other time, but Karak Eight Peaks can only be done right now.

The college, meanwhile, is essentially "this is what I will be doing for life". Maybe in twenty years we will have time to do anything else besides organizational actions.

[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.

Can't we please wait until Mathiled is 40-50 years old, and a Lord Wizard, to try and open an entire college of magic? We are currently accomplished in entirely different areas.

Hell, we just learned tool-less enchanting. Grab a nice, comfy wagon, but our snake-in-a-box in it, but the shysh-kebabs in it, and go Gandalf-ing it up with the dwarf bros.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Guys, guys, Karak Eight Peaks is happening right now.

Remember this is a five-year plan.

Why don't we just hold off on something 110% full-time like opening a college branch until we've adventured a bit and have gotten to Battle Wizard? We can do it at literally any other time, but Karak Eight Peaks can only be done right now.

The college, meanwhile, is essentially "this is what I will be doing for life". Maybe in twenty years we will have time to do anything else besides organizational actions.

[x] Seeking adventure in the Zhufbar expeditions into Karak Varn.
[X] Seeking adventure in Belegar Ironhammer's reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks.

Can't we please wait until Mathiled is 40-50 years old, and a Lord Wizard, to try and open an entire college of magic? We are currently accomplished in entirely different areas.
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Counter-point: If she is opening another branch, then she is sticking around enough to meet people, and start a family. It would be a terrible shame, and a dereliction of her duties if Mat allowed her house to die.

EDIT: The Liber Mortis will take generations to fully use.
 
vsh said:
We're good enough with a Shadow Steed to be able to take family vacations.
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Not if she's in the depths of a dwarven hold.
TotallyNotEvil said:
Van Hal died, what, two years ago? Less?

I have zero interest in playing Real Housewives of Wurtbad.
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You think Mat will be a stay at home mom? Or do you just not care about her having a family?

My understanding is that just by ticking "Call me for emergencies" Mat will see plenty of action. With her steed, she is fast. Only things faster are Flyers, space warpers(hi wood elves, Beastmen) and Teleporters.

A gallop is 40 to 48 km/h. And her mastery let's her ride something like 8, or if she is really pushing it 12 hours a day. With a horse that is sure footed enough to ride over hills and through forest. That put's her speed somewhere around 320 to 480 km a day. If there is an Emergency she can cross something like the width of the Empire in a week. Hell, she can "Walk on Air" across smaller rivers and chasms while she is at it.

Strategically, she is ridiculously mobile.
 
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