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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Snowfire said:
And above that hack @Crake too! :V
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Coming from @Goldfish? That's less of an accolade given and more of a condemnation. That you're given in priority above me shows that Goldfish respects me more and you less, probably because I'm more homicidal than you are.

Edit: This is sarcasm. Please don't hit me.

Edit2: I-it's not that I like you or anything, b-baka.
 
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spiritualatheist said:
Been rereading the thread and I have a question: where does the idea that skill checks can crit come from? In the PHB, they don't autopass on a 20 nor fail on a one.
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Yes, on the other hand Viserys diplomacy ranks are +28 alone. Rolling a 1 gives a total of 29 while a twenty gives a total of 48, almost epic level skill result and the difference in skill quality shows when we interact with other people.
 
The stipulation is failure only if an unmodified skill check at base ranks wouldn't have passed the DC to begin with. Diplomacy is calculated differently than knowledge rolls to begin with, since all four social skills are used in modified format using opinion modifiers in our social combat system.
 
I'm pretty sure it's a rule here. Our latest example is Viserys getting a diplo crit with the Landwarden and handwaving even having to try to convince it to go along with the sacrifice.
 
ryuan said:
Yes, on the other hand Viserys diplomacy ranks are +28 alone. Rolling a 1 gives a total of 29 while a twenty gives a total of 48, almost epic level skill result and the difference in skill quality shows when we interact with other people.
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do you think if we roll high enough we could convince someone their a chicken?
 
Someone like Joffrey isn't even a blip on our radar. He would actually have to be given power and then have abused that power before he'd be anything more than a minor inconvenience to be swept under the rug somewhere inhospitable and prone to inclement weather.
 
Crake said:
Someone like Joffrey isn't even a blip on our radar. He would actually have to be given power and then have abused that power before he'd be anything more than a minor inconvenience to be swept under the rug somewhere inhospitable and prone to inclement weather.
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all true but isnt it fun to put a bitch like joffrey in their place.
 
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firefrog600 said:
all true but isnt it fun to put a bitch like joffrey in their place.
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Indeed, there is satisfaction in crushing our enemies, but mere torture is not enough. Far better to see your for humbled, to make him watch as all his grand plans come crashing down around him. When he is stripped of title, wealth and followers, forced to grovel at your feet naked and in chains as he watches you usurp his life's ambition: only then shall he be allowed the release he begs you for.
 
firefrog600 said:
fuck the lannisters I hope to someday torture joffrey. except tyrion hes cool.
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Joffrey is a child. A very young child.

BeepSmile said:
Yohn could say he has little faith that the man who crows about his cruelty and indiscriminate evil (rains of Castlemere) would not order some terrible price to be enacted to gain leverage if he went to the shield?

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Tywin has a dark reputation. Who knows what he is making the mages under him do.

I hear he has them bound like slaves in invisible chains of sorcery, even!*

*It's nice 'cuz it's true

The mages in the golden shield may be honerable men and women, or not, but Tywin is known to deal... Unfairly.
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This is not the reputation of the Lannisters in general nor Tywin himself.

The reputation is for ruthlessness, but specifically deserved ruthlessness.

"A Lannister always pays his debts".

The negative reputation you see (from the perspective of enemies at that) is not that his actions are wrong, the implication is that he takes joy in the orders etc. because his actions are entirely legal and similarly applied in the other 7 Kingdoms, they're trying to avoid hypocrisy which is why the closest you'll see someone come to denouncing the actions against the Castamere's as "ill done", Tywin was within his rights as Lord.

Tywin would certainly not be the go to for your problems but that's because of what he will do to abuse your default on the loan to the very limit should that occur.

The point being there is a limit, it's not indiscriminate cruelty, it's when you default etc.

Tywin is very careful about perception, rabidness reflects poorly and we won't win many arguments trying to paint him as he is not.
 
spiritualatheist said:
Indeed, there is satisfaction in crushing our enemies, but mere torture is not enough. Far better to see your for humbled, to make him watch as all his grand plans come crashing down around him. When he is stripped of title, wealth and followers, forced to grovel at your feet naked and in chains as he watches you usurp his life's ambition: only then shall he be allowed the release he begs you for.
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Wow.
Aren't you guys just edgiest of all edgelords.

For all he's an ass, he's of no real importance to us and as such, gets the same practical treatment everyone else does - we simply don't give a fuck about him as long as he doesn't start to actively inconvenience us.

We have a lot of stuff to do as is, no reason to sink time in insignificant asshats.
 
egoo said:
Wow.
Aren't you guys just edgiest of all edgelords.

For all he's an ass, he's of no real importance to us and as such, gets the same practical treatment everyone else does - we simply don't give a fuck about him as long as he doesn't start to actively inconvenience us.

We have a lot of stuff to do as is, no reason to sink time in insignificant asshats.
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I was kidding. Sorry I did not make that clear in the post.
 
@DragonParadox, consensus.
Adhoc vote count started by Azel on Mar 19, 2018 at 3:32 AM, finished with 166630 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Since the Royces would have to agree to the story, you would prefer that they choose which story is the least onerous for them.
    -[X] The simplest and most straightforward would be to fake Ysilla's death. A disease caught from foreign merchants, or an accident or something similar could be faked with magic, and then she be simply whisked away to SD. However, this would burden the Royces with having to pretend to mourn her, and would make her reintroduction more difficult, though not impossible. However, it should best shield from drawing suspicion to the House as a whole.
    -[X] An alternative would be to have found that Ysilla was cursed, and sent to Braavos for curse breaking with a relative, like Robar. The Braavosi would "fail" and then Robar, rather than return home having failed, would leave Braavos last seen traveling further "East" in search of further solutions, but in truth being brought to SD to study magic for a year or two. This would allow for Ysilla's return, but would be likelier to draw suspicion. It would be easily explained as preferring the word of family, that is Waymar's, in recommending a curse-breaker in Braavos over rumor, but suspicious minds might wonder. The seeming failure of the recommended curse-breaker might deflect said suspicion, but you cannot say what other Lords might think.
    -[X] If Lord Royce (or our companions) can think of an alternative that better provides a reason for Ysilla to leave home and travel outside the seven kingdoms, you'd welcome it, of course. You have been a bit removed from what is considered "normal" in Westeros, so you could be overlooking something.
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