Meh, marriage prospects. If she can manage to learn magic, marriage prospects become a far distant concern. They shouldn't even be mentioned to Yohn at this juncture.

It's demonstrating we care about Ysilla and her future as Yohn understands it, thus showing to Lord Royce that his decision for her to learn magic with us is both correct (in that he can trust us with her because we're the king who gives a shit), and that we are a Lord who is attentive to the burdens he asks of his vassals. That her learning magic will empower her beyond needing to worry about marriage prospects is an unimportant detail in the context of this conversation.
 
The main problem with the easy plan is that the family will have to mourn (how good actors are the Royces?), she will have to be under glamour for at least a year at the Stepstones (because her showing up when she is supposed to be dead would be bad, and the Stepstones are full of spies), and well, her being dead and coming back might put off some (a lot of) people. She would also have to sell the ruse at the Stepstones, which would be hard, because not every young girl is Dany.

Everyone mourns differently. I'm sure they could pull that off more easily than pretending they had exiled their seven year old daughter for dealing with a wildling or contact her brother. Or honestly convince anyone she was sent East as part of some arranged marriage. Or that she had been stolen by wildlings. Or whatever other wild plan people keep tossing into the hat.
 
A reminder that we don't have to fix on a single plan. We can present a few decent options and let Yohn (well, DP really) to choose between them depending on their current political situation, morals or whatever else, which he will know better than Viserys.

[X] Diomedon
 
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The downside is we are known to have strong contacts with Braavos, and sending his daughter there implies the reason for it is recommendation from Waymar...which makes it look, to a suspicious mind, that he decided to trust Viserys aligned contacts over the crown in the matter of his daughter's safety.
We have her travel to Volantis to have her curse broken, only for her ship to be captured.
 
Are we volunteering Diomedon again? i'm game.
[X] Diomedon

Bleh. I obviously need to stop having ideas.

I've only gotten home recently, so gimme a few minutes and I'll have some options for Yohn to choose from. I'm currently thinking faking her death vs go to Braavos to cure a curse, the Braavosi fail -> Travel further East but actually be transported to SD for a year or two of education before she returns (and likely have Robar accompany her, since he seemed interested).

We have her travel to Volantis to have her curse broken, only for her ship to be captured.

That's returned us to the kidnapping plot, but slightly worse since it's confirmed that we have Ysilla, instead of "unknown parties" (Also takes longer).
 
Bleh. I obviously need to stop having ideas.

I've only gotten home recently, so gimme a few minutes and I'll have some options for Yohn to choose from. I'm currently thinking faking her death vs go to Braavos to cure a curse, the Braavosi fail -> Travel further East but actually be transported to SD for a year or two of education before she returns (and likely have Robar accompany her, since he seemed interested).



That's returned us to the kidnapping plot, but slightly worse since it's confirmed that we have Ysilla, instead of "unknown parties" (Also takes longer).
In my defense, I'm about to go to sleep and wanted to delegate to someone who seems to think along the same lines as I do.
 
[X] Diomedon

I like the idea of a two-for-one combo and grabbing Robar. He was allegedly Kingsguard material. I would at least assume that puts him on par with someone like Oakheart or Moore in terms of skill. Maybe better.
 
I won't vote for someone without seeing their vote (except sometimes Azel when his blood is up as I trust his skill and the utility of his evil. Well, that one time with Harlan's mob), but the thought of making Diomedon do it is funny*. So:

[ ] Diomedon

:p, *to be fair, s/he does come up with insightful votes.

One thing I would like to do: Take the Royces to SD soon, then to one of the many deserted islands. Show them wall of fire. Then add control winds. Then transform into HHD. Say to Robar: "You asked me to 'do my worst', apologies for not filling your request properly eirler, but I did not wish to damage such a beautiful place. Or, you know, kill you. Which, interestingly enough, is far from the worst that can be done to a person in this new age".

Edit: @Diomedon ... Azel just called you evil, similarly evil to him, the Devil. And you appear to be ok with that. WTF chap!?... Though to be fair, he (it?) did mean it as a complement :D.
 
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[X] Since the Royces would have to agree to the story, you would prefer that they choose which story is the least onerous for them.
-[X] The simplest and most straightforward would be to fake Ysilla's death. A disease caught from foreign merchants, or an accident or something similar could be faked with magic, and then she be simply whisked away to SD. However, this would burden the Royces with having to pretend to mourn her, and would make her reintroduction more difficult, though not impossible. However, it should best shield from drawing suspicion to the House as a whole.
-[X] An alternative would be to have found that Ysilla was cursed, and sent to Braavos for curse breaking with a relative, like Robar. The Braavosi would "fail" and then Robar, rather than return home having failed, would leave Braavos last seen traveling further "East" in search of further solutions, but in truth being brought to SD to study magic for a year or two. This would allow for Ysilla's return, but would be likelier to draw suspicion. It would be easily explained as preferring the word of family, that is Waymar's, in recommending a curse-breaker in Braavos over rumor, but suspicious minds might wonder. The seeming failure of the recommended curse-breaker might deflect said suspicion, but you cannot say what other Lords might think.
-[X] If Lord Royce (or our companions) can think of an alternative that better provides a reason for Ysilla to leave home and travel outside the seven kingdoms, you'd welcome it, of course. You have been a bit removed from what is considered "normal" in Westeros, so you could be overlooking something.
 
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Her whip is currently a Toxic and Virulent Keen Ghost-Strike Whip of Wounding +4.

BAB is in fact +9 due to fractional BAB (making it so unbroken 3/4ths progression is the same as single-classed, in her case). Wis is +5.

Her to-hit is 9+5+4 = +18/+13
Her damage is: [2d4+9 +1d4 (Dessication) (15-20/x4)] + 1 CON damage - Bonus 3d8 Dessication dmg (total 9d4+ 3d8 + 36) and 1d6+2 STR damage on crit.
@DragonParadox

Also, Mislead should be colored yellow on her spell list.
 
can we use a ribbon to have another kid or drawf or gremlin pretend to be her

Not for any length of time, I think. Servants gossip, and they would notice.

I'm liking "Volantis/Random slaver city-state cursed her (selling cursed goods), send to Braavos for curse breaking" but I would like to learn what the perception westorsi lords have with regard to temperature of the relationship between Bravvos and Viserys.

Edit, we came in on a "Tyroshi" ship, I think. Blame them?

[X] Diomedon

Maybe add that many of the limitations of magic are conceptual, and of any 20 given things that were once impossible, a fair few are entirely practically achivable, now, so he should present ideas even if he thinks they are silly? Or something like that.
He does not yet have the context to know what can and can not be done.
 
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[X] Diomedon

I don't know if the curse option is one we should even present to Yohn. If he chooses that one, and we agree, it opens up a line of possible interference from the Lannisters, who might attempt to gain influence over the Royces by offering to break Ysilla's "curse".
 
[X] Diomedon

I don't know if the curse option is one we should even present to Yohn. If he chooses that one, and we agree, it opens up a line of possible interference from the Lannisters, who might attempt to gain influence over the Royces by offering to break Ysilla's "curse".

Well, it would let us ambush and kill teleport capable Lannister mages, since they'd need to hear about it and immediately teleport to Braavos to provide their offer, since by the time news should reach them, Ysilla would be on a ship headed East already.
 
[X] Diomedon

I don't know if the curse option is one we should even present to Yohn. If he chooses that one, and we agree, it opens up a line of possible interference from the Lannisters, who might attempt to gain influence over the Royces by offering to break Ysilla's "curse".
He can announce it after he's sent Ysilla away. By then Ysilla will be in our hands and the Lannisters will have nothing.

Freaking Lannisters... I'm more than a little tempted to make this a trap for them if they do try anything. Maybe we can Smoky Confinement Ysilla for the operation and have Dany pose as her to keep up the ruse.
 
[X] Diomedon

I don't know if the curse option is one we should even present to Yohn. If he chooses that one, and we agree, it opens up a line of possible interference from the Lannisters, who might attempt to gain influence over the Royces by offering to break Ysilla's "curse".

Yohn could say he has little faith that the man who crows about his cruelty and indiscriminate evil (rains of Castlemere) would not order some terrible price to be enacted to gain leverage if he went to the shield? An outside consultant seems less likely to profit in a way that would be unwholesome, and magic for coin is at least a bit more reassuring than whatever Tywin would try to get. Coin is clear, Tywin has a dark reputation. Who knows what he is making the mages under him do.

I hear he has them bound like slaves in invisible chains of sorcery, even!*

*It's nice 'cuz it's true

The mages in the golden shield may be honerable men and women, or not, but Tywin is known to deal... Unfairly.
 
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[X] Diomedon

Hinky ass Devil shit in the Westerlands is more than enough reason to not want to reach out to them; could also potentially be framed as the Royces not wanting to impose.
 
Well, it would let us ambush and kill teleport capable Lannister mages, since they'd need to hear about it and immediately teleport to Braavos to provide their offer, since by the time news should reach them, Ysilla would be on a ship headed East already.

Yohn could say he has little faith that the man who crows about his cruelty and indiscriminate evil (rains of Castlemere) would not order some terrible price to be enacted to gain leverage if he went to the shield? An outside consultant seems less likely to profit in a way that would be unwholesome, and magic for coin is at least a bit more reassuring than whatever Tywin would try to get. Coin is clear, Tywin has a dark reputation. Who knows what he is making the mages under him do.

I hear he has them bound like slaves in invisible chains of sorcery, even!*

*It's nice 'cuz it's true

The mages in the golden shield may be honerable men and women, or not, but Tywin is known to deal... Unfairly.

It's not that I expect them to be able to Teleport to Ysilla to offer a cure, or even make a serious offer. Simply making it known that there is a "curse", whose cure could be used as leverage, is enough to turn Tywin's eyes toward Runestone. There already must exist some level of suspicion considering Waymar's association with us. Drawing more attention, even what might seem benign at first glance, isn't in the Royces' best interest.

No matter, though. It's a secondary concern for me.
 
@Goldfish I would give more than a passing glance at that possibility if it weren't for the fact that the Lannisters will have other priorities pretty soon.
 
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