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Speaking of Shadowsteeds why didn't Mathilde use hers in that charge? It would have been fun to run around with a greatsword and a steed made of mystical manifested shadow and a martial of 23.
 
I also can't wait to hear what tales will be told about Mathilde after this battle (especially if Van Hal survives). I mean, she basically pushed back enemy army single-handedly to protect Van Hal and not with spells, but with sword - a feat magnitude of which is much more understandable by common soldiers than using magic. That's how heroic tales usually look after they were exaggerated, not before.

Edit: forgot to say the obvious - magnificent update, @BoneyM!
 
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Speaking of Shadowsteeds why didn't Mathilde use hers in that charge? It would have been fun to run around with a greatsword and a steed made of mystical manifested shadow and a martial of 23.
Because then instead of Van Hal and Mathilde together being cut off from the rest of the army, they would've done so individually.

Everyone else were on foot, and Mathilde usually isn't badass enough to hold off an army on her own while they catch up.
 
Plus, they weren't supposed to actually outpace the army. If they were on horses then the fact that they pulled back after their morale-boosting stunt would have been much more obvious.
 
Plus, they weren't supposed to actually outpace the army. If they were on horses then the fact that they pulled back after their morale-boosting stunt would have been much more obvious.
Although it seems like everyone in that wave but Mathilde broke or went down hard, even before Van Hal fell, so something went badly wrong regardless.
 
Any mechanical effects we as players are aware of with that new trait?

Negatives to combat or other strenuous activity.

@BoneyM I suppose it's too much to hope Mathilde sees Orc Hewer lying around the tent?

It's powers do not extent to teleportation, sadly.

@BoneyM can we include a vote to call upon our Shadowhorse? I think riding it to Kasimir and scooping him up might be a bit quicker.

As others have said, this doesn't need micromanaging.

Speaking of Shadowsteeds why didn't Mathilde use hers in that charge? It would have been fun to run around with a greatsword and a steed made of mystical manifested shadow and a martial of 23.

Retreading covered ground, but because she and Van Hal were charging with the rank and file. To abandon them to charge around on horseback would run counter to the entire point of the exercise.

The nat 1 wasn't accounted for in the planning.
 
Retreading covered ground, but because she and Van Hal were charging with the rank and file. To abandon them to charge around on horseback would run counter to the entire point of the exercise.

The nat 1 wasn't accounted for in the planning.

And neither the followup 1 for Abelhelm: I mean it is a bit embaraasong for a Runefang-wielding Count Elector/Witch Hunter to be skewered by a lowly skeleton spearman...

What about my theory that they were left alone because the portcullis went down suddenly? Or do we have to assume that the whole greatswords detachment has been cut down?

What happened to the Knights of Morr and the first three waves of the attack? I suppose we will know in its own time, but this looks like we fell in a very ugly trap...
 
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What about my theory that they were left alone because the portcullis went down suddenly?

You left through the gate, so you can discount the possibility.

The original plan was for the faster-moving men to hold the gatehouse until the bulk of the infantry arrived to relieve them, since they wouldn't have enough endurance left for a prolonged battle. When the fourth wave lead by you and Van Hal arrived, the men holding the gate parted to let you through and then everything went to hell. There'll be a full post-mortem and recriminations all around when the smoke clears.
 
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and on a good day they could be expected to make fifteen miles. Fifteen miles.
Not too pathetic given the terrain. While a Roman Legion could force march 40 miles in a day they needed a good road to do it.

widens and flows no more than thigh-deep
Neck deep for the dwarves then. Worse for the halflings.

"Skeleton's broke again."
That whole scene was glorious.

[Charge of the Army of Stirland: 1]
[Van Hal surviving in the melee: 1]
[Is anyone coming to the rescue?: 8]
...seriously?

[Charge of Dame Mathilde Weber: Martial, 86+18=104]
[Fight on: 70+18-6(wounded)=82 vs 42]
[Fight on: 81+18-6(wounded)+3(Runefang)=96 vs 9]
Carrying like a boss.

Bit disappointing that the Runefang, one of the most potent weapons ever forged, is a measly +3.

Jade Wizards. Why hadn't you insisted on Jade Wizards?
What did I say? What did I say?
Cannons we had. Firepower we had. Healing? Not so much.

[ ] Dhar lies thick in the air. You just need a little. Just enough to give a Grey Wizard the power to heal...
Still a trap.

[X] By Van Hal's side. Whatever happens.
The Badly Wounded trait is not to be ignored. A messenger will be sent and it isn't like ruptured intestines kill quickly.
 
Since when can Dhar heal the living?
Isn't that stuff inherently corrosive and destructive?

Dhar and True Dhar are not the same things. Dhar means using multiple Winds at once in a single spell. True Dhar is a thing in itself created by forcing the Winds to recombine back into warpstuff.

It's very hard for humans to use True Dhar (as it doesn't occur naturally and they can't make it). They basically need warpstone or to be standing at a blocked waystone network nexus.

Regular Dhar can do anything that any wind can do, as it's using whatever wind is appropriate. It's just corrupting, mentally and physically, for humans. Basically, regular Dhar is High Magic done wrong. True Dhar is something else.
 
[X] By Van Hal's side. Whatever happens.

Is it usual part of command to charge before the army? It's like hubris of highest order to have the leader (hard to replace) going face first into enemies.
 
[X] By Van Hal's side. Whatever happens.

Is it usual part of command to charge before the army? It's like hubris of highest order to have the leader (hard to replace) going face first into enemies.
It was a moral trick, the intent was that we were seen charging forward with the troops following behind us. Then we were supposed to slow down a bit and let the troops overtake us.
 
Bit disappointing that the Runefang, one of the most potent weapons ever forged, is a measly +3.

To put it another way, on it's own it's as big a difference as being completely untrained and being proficient.

And don't judge too much based on raw dice rolls. The damage done by a Runefang with a high roll is going to be more so than damage done by a mundane weapon.
 
Even as a stunt our charge should have included a flying wedge of greatswords.
The Dawi would not have left a runefang lying on on the floor.
It seems like we were the most forward Stirland element when we got isolated and we came back through the gate where the bulk of the army was - Kasimir and Gustav should already know the Van Hal is down.

Seems C&C is completely borked. Someone needs to re-establish runners to all our leadership elements. If anyone else had taken charge they'd have told us by now.

[X] The plan exists independently of Van Hal; if necessary, it will outlive him. Take command.

We can hand over to Gustav when he arrives but he'll need a picture of what's going on and the means to communicate his decisions. Let's organise.
 
[x] Somewhere in that town-turned-battlefield is Brother Kasmir. Leave Van Hal's side. Find him. Sigmar will heal Van Hal.

I remain easy to persuade.
 
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Silver lining to all this: standing over her fallen lord while fighting off wave after wave of enemies with no help in sight, being wounded and still fighting on anyway because there's no one else to do it and she was filled with desperate fury and conviction that she simply could not afford to lose, is perhaps the dwarfiest thing Mathilde has ever done. And the dwarves were the ones to show up and see it. She wasn't even using magic that they saw aside from the armor, just stabbing tons of things to re-death. So, probably rep++ there.
 
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