Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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[X] [WAIFU] Van Hall
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
That is what is being asked of you, yes. 'When Stirland sallies' is a point you could use to justify not acting immediately, though - Van Hal's trip to Leicheberg is him exploring whether it is even necessary to sally, and from there preparations will begin if he decides that a sally is required, but considering how much Van Hal wants that road up and running it's questionable whether it's a good idea to not begin working now if you're going to fulfil those orders.
However, depending exactly where it's hooked in to the framework of Stirland's administration, it could be trivial to have the information the military gathers regarding the undead they find during the sally fed through to you.
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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To anyone concerned that Broken Heart plan was not doing mandated stuff, this is false. See the highlight parts (3) that lists the actions taken for mandate. This plan is my view on well-rounded plan covering most areas. Delegation will be done next turn once we have cemented derp's hold over the watch and information network.
Chipping in on this, why not have the membership open to both witch hunter and Grey College? It's a mix of field experience and academy knowledge. How testy is the relationship between Witch hunters and MAGIC?
Chipping in on this, why not have the membership open to both witch hunter and Grey College? It's a mix of field experience and academy knowledge. How testy is the relationship between Witch hunters and MAGIC?
Though the military would be mostly good at counting and positioning, but not a lot of the specifics, so we likely still want the unit(which also helpfully centralizes the information for us to look at).
Also to be clear, theres no implicit punishment for not doing live captures right? The minimum expected(rather than the technical minimum) is a headcount and analysis of whatever undead we can find, nail down and carve apart?
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I feel like adding the reasoning you had for the mages as part of the vote (mages would be very useful but cost political capital) would make the proposal sound better. Also maybe adding a clause that even if we don't command the agency that we remain in the loop so that we can fulfill our mission would be a good idea?
[X][Organisational] Plan The Best and Most Not-Being-Paid-By-Me Police
-[X] Special Branch: Pull some financial trickery to get the information network classified as part of the Watch, so that their costs are covered by the Stirlandian treasury.
-[X] Improve the training of the Watch, hiring trainers and dedicating paid time each week to sharpening skills.
-[X] Network name: No name. It's a secret network of informants, why would you give it a name?
A successful Special Branch action allows us to cut way back on our Discretionary spending and we need to either do that or ask for an increase in our budget there, opening us up to scrutiny -- I don't want to do that before we stop embezzling, and it's clear that most other people want to keep diverting funds to cover our loans until they're paid off.
I was also tempted to vote [ ] Expand the administration instead of [ ] Improve the training, since spreading them down the Old Dwarf Road is the job we were assigned this turn, but I figure that if we're expanding the administration this turn, they're not going to be able to actually expand coverage until next turn. Plus, the best time to institute training is before we start expanding heavily, either in numbers or in area.
[X][Personal] Plan When Do I Get To Do Magic
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Formal Proposal: Your idea for an undead research team intrigues Van Hal, but he wants more information. Write up a full proposal, including where it will fit in the existing hierarchy, and spend some time sourcing the equipment it would require.
--[X] Name: Institute for the Study of the Undead Menace as it pertains to the Defence of Stirland, or Stirland Institute for short.
--[X] Parent Organisation: Independent
--[X] Reports to: A group of stakeholders (hah) representing the province of Stirland, the military of Stirland, the Witch Hunters, and the Colleges of Magic, all appointed by the Elector-Count of Stirland. In practice, these positions will be filled initially by Van Hal (for both Stirland and the Witch Hunters), Gustav, and Mathilde.
--[X] Mandate: To gain new insights into the nature of the undead threat and thereby better defend against and destroy it, and to provide a hub for collaboration between various existing Imperial organizations, most notably the Witch Hunters and Colleges, such that they can share their existing knowledge and leverage the force of Stirland's military in mutual pursuit of said goal.
-[X] Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Can I Come Too?: Everyone seems to be riding off to Leicheberg lately. Tag along and see what's going on with these Haunted Hills.
-[X] Free Time: Gustav von Jungfreud
Finishing the job from last turn and expanding the Watch to where we were told to are sort of a given. I don't want to give it any more actions than that, because that's already the equivalent of half our time.
As much as I want to spend the rest of our actions on setting up for our ever-growing pile of enchanting projects, @DarkLight140 is right: We need to work on our secret orders. That means Formal Proposal and Undead Research at the least so that we have the people and knowledge in place, while Can I Come Too? just fits thematically.
Free Time is going to Gustav because we're going to have to work with him to get the Stirland Institute off the ground. I'm open to changing it to anyone else heading on the Leicheberg trip, though.
[X][Waifu] None of the above, yet: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her yet.
Just leaving my options open.
EDIT: And I'm only realising now that I've used a completely different vote structure to everyone else. Oh well, it's not like anyone's going to vote for me anyway.
-[X] Special Branch: Pull some financial trickery to get the information network classified as part of the Watch, so that their costs are covered by the Stirlandian treasury.
-[X] Improve the training of the Watch, hiring trainers and dedicating paid time each week to sharpening skills.
-[X] Network name: No name. It's a secret network of informants, why would you give it a name?
A successful Special Branch action allows us to cut way back on our Discretionary spending and we need to either do that or ask for an increase in our budget there, opening us up to scrutiny -- I don't want to do that before we stop embezzling, and it's clear that most other people want to keep diverting funds to cover our loans until they're paid off.
I was also tempted to vote [ ] Expand the administration instead of [ ] Improve the training, since spreading them down the Old Dwarf Road is the job we were assigned this turn, but I figure that if we're expanding the administration this turn, they're not going to be able to actually expand coverage until next turn. Plus, the best time to institute training is before we start expanding heavily, either in numbers or in area.
[X][Personal] Plan When Do I Get To Do Magic
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Formal Proposal: Your idea for an undead research team intrigues Van Hal, but he wants more information. Write up a full proposal, including where it will fit in the existing hierarchy, and spend some time sourcing the equipment it would require.
--[X] Name: Institute for the Study of the Undead Menace as it pertains to the Defence of Stirland, or Stirland Institute for short.
--[X] Parent Organisation: Independent
--[X] Reports to: A group of stakeholders (hah) representing the province of Stirland, the military of Stirland, the Witch Hunters, and the Colleges of Magic, all appointed by the Elector-Count of Stirland. In practice, these positions will be filled initially by Van Hal (for both Stirland and the Witch Hunters), Gustav, and Mathilde.
--[X] Mandate: To gain new insights into the nature of the undead threat and thereby better defend against and destroy it, and to provide a hub for collaboration between various existing Imperial organizations, most notably the Witch Hunters and Colleges, such that they can share their existing knowledge and leverage the force of Stirland's military in mutual pursuit of said goal.
-[X] Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Can I Come Too?: Everyone seems to be riding off to Leicheberg lately. Tag along and see what's going on with these Haunted Hills.
-[X] Free Time: Gustav von Jungfreud
Finishing the job from last turn and expanding the Watch to where we were told to are sort of a given. I don't want to give it any more actions than that, because that's already the equivalent of half our time.
As much as I want to spend the rest of our actions on setting up for our ever-growing pile of enchanting projects, @DarkLight140 is right: We need to work on our secret orders. That means Formal Proposal and Undead Research at the least so that we have the people and knowledge in place, while Can I Come Too? just fits thematically.
Free Time is going to Gustav because we're going to have to work with him to get the Stirland Institute off the ground. I'm open to changing it to anyone else heading on the Leicheberg trip, though.
[X][Waifu] None of the above, yet: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her yet.
Just leaving my options open.
EDIT: And I'm only realising now that I've used a completely different vote structure to everyone else. Oh well, it's not like anyone's going to vote for me anyway.
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Witch Hunters are the ones typically raising lynch mobs on wizards, and hedge mages of all sorts. Antagonistic to say the least.
Most Witch Hunters don't have a lot of experience with the undead either. Van Hal's former associates aside.
I figure we could get most of those if Van Hal personally takes charge of recruiting.
P.S. Undead Research doesn't actually do anything for the mandate. It's studying the literature rather than setting up the organization we'd need to meet the mandate.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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What undead knowledge does derp lack that she feels she had to brush upon? It will be really strange to setup a unit to hunt/study undead without actually knowing what undeads are. (Again, filmy knowledge on WHF; so if Grey wizard are really good with undead then let me know.)
[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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Dear god.
The Derp wizard and the Derplomat could get married and have children. I'm not sure if my brain could even deal with that but I'm eager to find out.
Sorry Van Hal. You were a cool dude but this is a golden opportunity and I can't pass this by. Those kids are going to bumble their way into saving the world.
[X] The Honourable Anton Kiesinger II
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Witches and Witch Hunters are not and will probably never be friends. But in recent years across the Empire in general, the relationship is more cautious distaste and less 'burn them if you think you can get away with it'.
As for membership, you can open recruitment to various parties at a later date. The current question is 'who should technically be in charge'. I say technically because whoever you choose, Mathilde would be in charge and Van Hal would back that. The trade-off is straightforward - it'd avoid problems down the road if the organization de jure reports to the Spymistress as part of their founding charter, rather than just out of inertia, but that would also mean that you don't get the benefits from latching on to whichever organization it latches onto. If it's technically part of the military, manpower would be easier; if it's part of the College, then research materials and magical assistance would be easier, and so on.
Correct, the 'order' part is for information only. It just offers nebulous rewards for live captures. Which not only gives you whatever those rewards would be, but would also tell you something about them - both from what it is they reward you with, and what happens to the live captures, since it's a lot easier to keep tabs on a zombie in a box than one guy on a horse with a letter tucked into his jerkin.
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Grey Wizards only know about Undead so much as they can sense the magic at work in them. You want Amethysts for specialist undead.
However, it's a good point. I'll add an Overwork to study up the literature on them.
Ah...good to know.
So the None option would be No Baggage(because god knows all of the rest will have baggage), but no support.
Colleges would make it easier to hire wizards for the job of dissecting gribblies.
Probably much easier to get some resident Amethysts coming down
*Wonders how we can dissect ghosts*
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[X] [WAIFU] Van Hall
[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
EDIT: Needed to read up on what current plans were around before picking one. I like this best.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
EDIT: Needed to read up on what current plans were around before picking one. I like this best.
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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Prime plucky teenager protagonist with clueless badass parents. We all seen them, but now we can make them!
Boil a bucket of pig bone in water and apply the residue to ghosts.
Volià! Ghost Jelly, great treat for summer times and family.
(After taste may vary, contact your local priests if anything out of the ordinary occurs.)
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Can we choose more than one person? After all, it's not who we are dating, it's who we like, and people like more than one person all the time.
Sure. Love triangles are a staple of the books she won't admit to reading.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
[X] [WAIFU] She likes both Van Hal and Anton. Van Hal is so cool and Bad Ass and handsome and he really seems to trust her, and Anton is so friendly and cute and charming and he's always so kind to her. How can a mysterious and beautiful wizard knight spy be expected to choose?
Even if the votes don't support it I think this should become reality just by virtue of being the best, most entertaining, and most true to character option I believe. As the GM you can make this happen.
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If the voting reflects that I'll go with it. For instance, if it ended now with 'no romance yet' in the lead but Van Hal and Anton taking second and third places with decent backing, there wouldn't be romance options in the coming few years but she'd have some thoughts in both their directions.
The heart of any proper operation security is compartmentalization. Mingling together two assets means that a) it is possible to compromize both in one go b) even if only one is compromised, it has fingers in the clean part of network c) it's fairly hard to play one part against another when we need it. I'm strongly against.
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] [WAIFU] Mathilde has a dark secret: she has a neck fetish and is romantically attracted to anyone with a long neck.
But she must keep this a secret, because that makes her a Neckromancer
] [WAIFU] Mathilde has a dark secret: she has a neck fetish and is romantically attracted to anyone with a long neck.But she must keep this a secret, because that makes her a Neckromancer
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[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority