- Location
- Germany
Okay, I have removed that part, we can still pay off the remaining debt from our wealth over time.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
- Fantasy Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
DarkLight140
Credit to Team
- Location
- Lost in my thoughts
Eh?
What was this, if not spending personal time together and/or working with her? We took this action Turn 7.
No, sorry about the confusion - I've edited that to be clearer. Control over the Watch is technically costing you an action but the choices listed under it in Organizational Actions don't cost additional actions.
I somehow completely forgot about that. Fair enough, editing her into the list of options.
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Ah, very good.
That this even needs asking is pretty indicative that things are getting either worryingly complex or poorly explained.
You currently have five actions - was one action of overwork intended?
I've rearranged the order section to hopefully be a bit clearer about things, and added a note at the bottom to highlight the new action limit and it's cause.
You currently have five actions - was one action of overwork intended?
I've rearranged the order section to hopefully be a bit clearer about things, and added a note at the bottom to highlight the new action limit and it's cause.
Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
- Location
- Following the wind
[X] [WAIFU]None, period: Mathilde is not for romance.
Normally, I'm a lurker here(Great quest by the way!), but when this popped up, I knew I had to head off any possible romance right now.
1) All the options besides Van Hal haven't really have any in-depth characterization/interaction with Mathilde, and Van Hal has thanks to the private meetings which kinda gives Van Hal a leg up.
2) I don't want Van Hal to win for several reasons: 2a) He's our goddamn boss(Not including our secret employer). Never get mixed up with the boss. This isn't a goddamn Harlequin novel. 2b) He's a Witch Hunter. Granted, an unconventional one, but I seriously doubt he's that unconventional to date a witch, let alone marry one. 2c) Goddamn politics. There's already an Elector's Meet coming up, and we don't want Van Hal walking in there with a potential disadvantage: dating us*. Not every Elector Count is going to 'like' Magic/Magic users and even the few who do would see such a thing as a bridge too far and hold it against Van Hal. 2d) No one else has had meaningful enough interactions with Mathilde like I've said above and I'd like them to be given a chance before Mathilde actually tries the romance thing. 2e) I haven't actually seen any possible attractions beyond the maybe one to Van Hal in this update and OP said that he wrote that ambiguously.
3) No actual sexuality has been established in-story/in-quest events and making a vote over it now seems a little crass/weird since it feels like a reallly belated part of CharGen. I don't know, it might be just me, but that's how I feel about it.
Tl;dr: No romance until we actually have meaningful interactions with the others beyond Van Hal. Or if we can't, no romance ever.
*Granted, this requires us to successfully romance him before the Elector's Meet, but the latter half of what I said still rings true for future EMs.
Normally, I'm a lurker here(Great quest by the way!), but when this popped up, I knew I had to head off any possible romance right now.
1) All the options besides Van Hal haven't really have any in-depth characterization/interaction with Mathilde, and Van Hal has thanks to the private meetings which kinda gives Van Hal a leg up.
2) I don't want Van Hal to win for several reasons: 2a) He's our goddamn boss(Not including our secret employer). Never get mixed up with the boss. This isn't a goddamn Harlequin novel. 2b) He's a Witch Hunter. Granted, an unconventional one, but I seriously doubt he's that unconventional to date a witch, let alone marry one. 2c) Goddamn politics. There's already an Elector's Meet coming up, and we don't want Van Hal walking in there with a potential disadvantage: dating us*. Not every Elector Count is going to 'like' Magic/Magic users and even the few who do would see such a thing as a bridge too far and hold it against Van Hal. 2d) No one else has had meaningful enough interactions with Mathilde like I've said above and I'd like them to be given a chance before Mathilde actually tries the romance thing. 2e) I haven't actually seen any possible attractions beyond the maybe one to Van Hal in this update and OP said that he wrote that ambiguously.
3) No actual sexuality has been established in-story/in-quest events and making a vote over it now seems a little crass/weird since it feels like a reallly belated part of CharGen. I don't know, it might be just me, but that's how I feel about it.
Tl;dr: No romance until we actually have meaningful interactions with the others beyond Van Hal. Or if we can't, no romance ever.
*Granted, this requires us to successfully romance him before the Elector's Meet, but the latter half of what I said still rings true for future EMs.
You have six personal actions; you're allowed five before you hit Overwork.
Also, you want to name the network of informants "Grey Coats"? That would make sense as a nickname for the members of a military unit or the watch, but not a group of people who necessarily don't wear a uniform and especially not as an organisational name.
No actual sexuality will be established unless as a result of this vote - I've deliberately held off from any of such to keep from railroading the thread into anything. This wouldn't represent the beginning of a romance proper, this would be the start of oh gee I really like spending time with insert-name-here, I wonder if it means something?
If someone wins this vote, it doesn't mean a relationship will start or necessary will ever start or even be possible. Maybe they don't swing your way. Maybe events will get in the way. Maybe you just won't have the actions to ever do anything. Maybe a ghost is going to eat them this turn. This is entirely about how Mathilde feels.
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DarkLight140
Credit to Team
- Location
- Lost in my thoughts
@VoidZero, I am somewhat concerned that your Broken Heart plan doesn't make any motions toward completing our puppetmaster mission. To remind you of what we need to do:
No matter which way we go about it, however, we need to make sure that we have something done to fulfill this task. How does your plan do so?
There are a number of ways we could approach this. The new Formal Proposal action would be one way, since it would involve putting ourselves in on the ground floor of an organization devoted to tracking and studying undead. Another would be to have a social or co-op work action with Gustav, such that he agrees to have his forces forward us information on what they encounter. Or we could embed spies in the military and get that information without going through legitimate channels.
No matter which way we go about it, however, we need to make sure that we have something done to fulfill this task. How does your plan do so?
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Okay, guys, I think we need to spend some time with Wilhelmina this turn. That's because we have no idea of her motivation. Every other advisor in quest has some motivation out of chargen: professor had Avarice, Gustav has Vainglory, Anton has (probably) Nepotism, we and Schulz have Sleeper agent, Kasmir has Zealotry, Julia and engineer guy have Inspiration. But we have no idea about Wilhelmina's motivation. She may be an exception but she could also be, say, another agent or even chaos corrupted.
Anton was supposed to be incompetent, but he keeps rolling crits. He started with a 4 in diplomacy! I spent time worrying about whether I was unduly crippling Stirland by having a deadweight Chancellor that couldn't be axed without alienating vassals! This turn isn't even the first time he's rolled a natural 100.
Khona Moshr
Pink Flamingo Cabal Healer(they/them)
- Location
- Alabama
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] [WAIFU] Anton Kiesinger II
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Wait, what's his current Diplomacy? For the pure lulz.
Spend some time with him and you'll find out.
Khona Moshr
Pink Flamingo Cabal Healer(they/them)
- Location
- Alabama
- Pronouns
- They/Them
So how long till he convices a champion of chaos to betray chaos?
- Location
- Estonia
[X] Plan Broken Heart
-[X] Consolidation: You currently have a patchwork of useful contacts. Backfill so that you can rightfully claim to cover entire towns.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] [Network] Name: Grey Coats
-[X] Expand the ranks of the Watch, so that they're able to start covering even the poorer parts of their covered area.
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Integrate the rat catchers, sewer-jacks and gong farmers into the Watch, and begin having the rank-and-file of the Watch learn from them (Watch speciality action).
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Pretty Good Swords: You've struck up a friendship with the Champion of the Greatswords and have discovered a talent for wielding them. Continue to cultivate this.
-[X] Diggy Diggy Hole, Remixed: You're getting sick of having workmen tramping in and out of your abode. Recruit an entire team and personally oversee them to clear out all of the reachable portions of the Palace-Shrine and be done with it. (-personal gold)
-[X] Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Free Time: Now well-established in Wurtbad, you can spend some time in your scant off hours getting to know someone better. Pick one character. (no action required)
--[X] Julia
[X] [WAIFU] Anton Kiesinger II
-[X] Consolidation: You currently have a patchwork of useful contacts. Backfill so that you can rightfully claim to cover entire towns.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] [Network] Name: Grey Coats
-[X] Expand the ranks of the Watch, so that they're able to start covering even the poorer parts of their covered area.
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Integrate the rat catchers, sewer-jacks and gong farmers into the Watch, and begin having the rank-and-file of the Watch learn from them (Watch speciality action).
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Pretty Good Swords: You've struck up a friendship with the Champion of the Greatswords and have discovered a talent for wielding them. Continue to cultivate this.
-[X] Diggy Diggy Hole, Remixed: You're getting sick of having workmen tramping in and out of your abode. Recruit an entire team and personally oversee them to clear out all of the reachable portions of the Palace-Shrine and be done with it. (-personal gold)
-[X] Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Free Time: Now well-established in Wurtbad, you can spend some time in your scant off hours getting to know someone better. Pick one character. (no action required)
--[X] Julia
[X] [WAIFU] Anton Kiesinger II
Wilhelmina is Nepotism. She mentions putting her sons in charge of things.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
I refuse to vote for any plan that does not spend time with Anton.
Oh yeah. Forgot about it, thanks.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Hopefully final change. Dropped great sword training and took personal visit to haunted hill for first hand information on dead people.
[X] Plan Broken Heart
-[X] Consolidation: You currently have a patchwork of useful contacts. Backfill so that you can rightfully claim to cover entire towns.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] [Network] Name: Grey Coats
-[X] Expand the ranks of the Watch, so that they're able to start covering even the poorer parts of their covered area.
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Integrate the rat catchers, sewer-jacks and gong farmers into the Watch, and begin having the rank-and-file of the Watch learn from them (Watch speciality action).
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Can I Come Too?: Everyone seems to be riding off to Leicheberg lately. Tag along and see what's going on with these Haunted Hills. (NEW)
-[X] Diggy Diggy Hole, Remixed: You're getting sick of having workmen tramping in and out of your abode. Recruit an entire team and personally oversee them to clear out all of the reachable portions of the Palace-Shrine and be done with it. (-personal gold)
-[X] [Additional] Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Free Time: Now well-established in Wurtbad, you can spend some time in your scant off hours getting to know someone better. Pick one character. (no action required)
--[X] Julia
-[X] These agents are getting expensive. Write up a proposal for your discretionary budget to be increased, instead of waiting for Van Hal to decide to increase it. (warning: attracts oversight to your current budget)
--[X] Budget increase dearly needed as the information network need huge expansion to refill the void left by the demise of the League, as well as watching the Watch to prevent corruption and hostile plants. Push for increase of 100 Gold at minimal, due to need to finding and keeping reliable officers.
[X] [WAIFU] Anton Kiesinger II
@BoneyM
Thanks
@DarkLight140
Haunted Hill must have some walking dead people for puppet mission?
[X] Plan Broken Heart
-[X] Consolidation: You currently have a patchwork of useful contacts. Backfill so that you can rightfully claim to cover entire towns.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] [Network] Name: Grey Coats
-[X] Expand the ranks of the Watch, so that they're able to start covering even the poorer parts of their covered area.
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Integrate the rat catchers, sewer-jacks and gong farmers into the Watch, and begin having the rank-and-file of the Watch learn from them (Watch speciality action).
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Can I Come Too?: Everyone seems to be riding off to Leicheberg lately. Tag along and see what's going on with these Haunted Hills. (NEW)
-[X] Diggy Diggy Hole, Remixed: You're getting sick of having workmen tramping in and out of your abode. Recruit an entire team and personally oversee them to clear out all of the reachable portions of the Palace-Shrine and be done with it. (-personal gold)
-[X] [Additional] Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Free Time: Now well-established in Wurtbad, you can spend some time in your scant off hours getting to know someone better. Pick one character. (no action required)
--[X] Julia
-[X] These agents are getting expensive. Write up a proposal for your discretionary budget to be increased, instead of waiting for Van Hal to decide to increase it. (warning: attracts oversight to your current budget)
--[X] Budget increase dearly needed as the information network need huge expansion to refill the void left by the demise of the League, as well as watching the Watch to prevent corruption and hostile plants. Push for increase of 100 Gold at minimal, due to need to finding and keeping reliable officers.
[X] [WAIFU] Anton Kiesinger II
@BoneyM
Thanks
@DarkLight140
Haunted Hill must have some walking dead people for puppet mission?
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