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- Germany
I'm just kinda sick of spending vast fortunes on +1 Something.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- Australia
It's just so boring.
@Goldfish People do realise that horses are less than optimised but it's more interesting and it's our way of worldbuilding, +1 has no impact on our realm, herd of super horses does.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I think that you can buy an aprricable amount of gold before hitting the cap, but it is definitely something we should ask about.
Edit: caught up, forgot to refresh. Maybe we'll find some cool magic items for sale. Damn, Lya should be there. I hope there's a diplomacy interrupt so we can get max earth genie leverage so we do that and head back to SD.
Or Tyene suggests the idea to Viserys and they do it in a few lines of text.
[X] Buy Nothing
-[X] Quietly to Waymar with a grin, when out of there (so that people nearby don't hear it and take it as insult) "You already know how amazing flying is"
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Like I said, there are all sorts of interesting things we might find that aren't necessarily for a party member to use in combat.
Maybe a Golem Manual?
Or how about a Lord's Banner of Victory?
A Treasurer's Seal?
What about a set of Dragonbane Divination Sticks to further augment Vee's Augury spell when used in conjunction with Hallucinogenic Smoke? At level 15, she would have 95% accuracy.
A Mallet of Building would be a very neat item for our construction efforts.
Etc.
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- United States
The horses are cool, but only to a certain extent. We can probably negotiate with House Ajhar to arrange the purchase of a small herd of Istaheq without us being completely fleeced, and in the meantime we can spend our money elsewhere. And quite frankly Waymar can wait for that griffin. I'm much more interested in walking around and finding interesting things in the Noble's Quarter, and getting a large chunk of adamantium to play with.
But horses? Horses we have to spend a year breeding when the game more or less moves at the pace of real life? Yeah, no thanks.
But horses? Horses we have to spend a year breeding when the game more or less moves at the pace of real life? Yeah, no thanks.
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- Australia
When exactly have we gotten/followed up on the same opportunity twice?
I don't disagree I just believe the combination of PC time and Update Screen Time and our own attention span will make it so we never see horses again.
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- United States
That's where house Ajhad comes in. IC there's no way their connections wouldn't be able to find horses at market price rather than the ripoff we're being presented. All we have to do is come forward on our next trip to the Opaline Vault and ask if they'd buy the horses for us in exchange for whatever trade goods we bring them. They have no reason to say no, and we don't have to rely on the encounter table, and we get more horses overall.
- Location
- Argentina
I love this even if it is marginally useful to us.
We need to cheat more with Minor and Major Creation. Those spells are too cool to let them slip by.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
I'm kind of partial to the Lord's Banner of Victory. Virtually useless to us given our buffing scheme, but it could affect an entire army all at once, so long as the banner is within line of sight. That's amazing.
A flying Arcanum or someone with a flying mount could hover above the battlefield and all of our troops would benefit from a +2 Morale bonus to attacks, saving throws, and skill checks.
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- Chile
True enough, ultimately Screentime is our most valued ressource, so I wouldn't want to leave empty handed. At the same time, as a general rule of thumb, in house crafted everything is better than loot and off the shelf gear. I guarantee we can have better mounts of we just give the money to TNE or somesuch and let them design a mount.
Only problem is they can't reproduce (without Flesh Forge, which... bleh), so that's why a single horse should be optimal. Gives our dothraki something to do while they wait in the disputed lands, and in a year we have a few nice horses we can use to diplomance Westerosi lords.
Swords and Horses, that's how you win Westerosi Lords. Its like giving candy to a child, or cocaine to a stock broker.
Only problem is they can't reproduce (without Flesh Forge, which... bleh), so that's why a single horse should be optimal. Gives our dothraki something to do while they wait in the disputed lands, and in a year we have a few nice horses we can use to diplomance Westerosi lords.
Swords and Horses, that's how you win Westerosi Lords. Its like giving candy to a child, or cocaine to a stock broker.
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- Germany
This is pretty much the only thing that really excites me. Though you almost sound as if the best place for it would be trailing behind Richard, mounted on a three-headed dragon.
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- Australia
Assuming we remember, assuming we don't face some token based system to represent how much time they're willing to spend looking for us etc.
I don't have your confidence that we can "just" ask next time.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
This is pretty much the only thing that really excites me. Though you almost sound as if the best place for it would be trailing behind Richard, mounted on a three-headed dragon.
"Take heart, men! Swordman rides with us today!"
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- United States
They've got a capable majordomo, and we provide very exotic trade goods along with having good relations with them. I have a hunch they'll find the time.
I'm actually super annoyed that he wasn't willing to wait. I'll walk away happy if we don't buy anything. He's getting a griffin.
Also, this:
Tyene has a plan!
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- Australia
They've got a capable majordomo, and we provide very exotic trade goods along with having good relations with them. I have a hunch they'll find the time.
I'm actually super annoyed that he wasn't willing to wait. I'll walk away happy if we don't buy anything. He's getting a griffin.
Also, this:
Tyene has a plan!
I'm not saying they won't have any time, I'm saying they will tell us we have the time for Horses or X. So we may as well use the time we have now to get the horses and get X in the future instead of constantly shuffling which opportunity we want to miss out on. Gold is by far our least valuable resource.
It's got nothing to do with in character motivation and everything to do with DP game balancing.
He just finished describing a creature bizarre further than the eye can see and we got 3 options with a chance to look again tomorrow.
How exactly are you reconciling this with your assumption they will make time for us?
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- United States
Long term deals are a thing. Just like we have the Xorn gathering tons of iron for us over the course of months, House Ajhar could be paid to act as an intermediary to buy the horses over the course of a month or two. Those three options? That was what we found in a few hours. House Ajhar lives here. With their contacts they can definitely find more horses at a much better price, and we don't even have to be here when they find it.
EDIT: We're outsiders wandering blindly through the market. Do you really think game balance and encounter tables actually come into play when we're talking about House Ajhar who are not only natives but well-connected and wealthy nobles?
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- Australia
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- United States
I'm don't.
Thinking that a noble House of Shaitan somehow won't be able to find some genie-touched horses in the freaking Opaline City over the course of a month or more is ridiculous. There is a certain point where encounter tables just don't make sense in the face of the narrative. It makes zero sense IC that their connections wouldn't come into play.
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- United States
1. The argument of "I either have time for X or for horses" doesn't come into play over the course of several months
2. A token-based system would still probably be cheaper than the ripoff that's in front of us right now
@Deliste, more than the reasons I've already laid out I am completely and utterly disinterested in wasting this much money on horses. I'm willing to buy them at a more reasonable price in the future, but I absolutely don't want to do it now. I'd much rather save our spending cash for something interesting and more useful than a couple of horses.
2. A token-based system would still probably be cheaper than the ripoff that's in front of us right now
@Deliste, more than the reasons I've already laid out I am completely and utterly disinterested in wasting this much money on horses. I'm willing to buy them at a more reasonable price in the future, but I absolutely don't want to do it now. I'd much rather save our spending cash for something interesting and more useful than a couple of horses.
Bilestone is rotstone.
Paradosi
Myrddin
- Location
- VV Cephei
Narrative is the most rare of commodities for us, this is self-evident, especially now that DP has largely given up on trying to lock us to adventurer standards back when the whole deal with the Iron Bank was in the works. In that light, it is likely we'll soon enough have more funds than we'll ever have the time to spend, simply due to the constraints of how the system works.
In short, narrative is the true currency of this quest, and most quests, really. In that light,
[X] Plan Narrative
-[X] 1 Istaheq (Male) - 900 SC
-[X] 2 Ceru (Male, Female) - 1180 SC
-[X] 2 Ankheg (Male, Female) - 360 SC
--[X] Mention to Waymar that you've something else entirely in mind for him, a creature straight out of legends.
If Waymar doesn't read legends as GRIFFIN KING, I shall be disappoint, as I'd rather we gift the Istaheq to Rhango, so that he might breed the stallion with prize Dothraki mares for that sweet, sweet narrative.
In short, narrative is the true currency of this quest, and most quests, really. In that light,
[X] Plan Narrative
-[X] 1 Istaheq (Male) - 900 SC
-[X] 2 Ceru (Male, Female) - 1180 SC
-[X] 2 Ankheg (Male, Female) - 360 SC
--[X] Mention to Waymar that you've something else entirely in mind for him, a creature straight out of legends.
If Waymar doesn't read legends as GRIFFIN KING, I shall be disappoint, as I'd rather we gift the Istaheq to Rhango, so that he might breed the stallion with prize Dothraki mares for that sweet, sweet narrative.
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