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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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gourdcaptain said:
...*sweatdrop*

Queen Bee, you're two for two on timelines involving a very stupid death. Once is misfortune, twice is carelessness.
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Well, we don't know that she's dead. Plus, this is a comics universe. She could very well turn up next week as a mecha-drider.

... Note to self, Mecha-Drider Queen Bee. I must use this somewhere.

EDIT: Aaaaaaaaand I have been ninja'd by the author. Whoops.
 
Paul Mentions that Queen Bee is a metahuman

If this wording is intentional on Mr. Zoats part and not just a slip then that means she is still alive
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
Can't be seen to be influencing the proceedings. Besides, this gives them a reasoning to use further sanctions.
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Yeah, no.

He can make the aura virtually invisible with the only downside being that it can't stop bullets (or anything lethal).

This was a complete and utter defeat for the good guys, they lost thousands of civilians lives, fucked up the PR of Adom (My SOD ends if any government actually trust him for anything ever), fucked up the PR of heroes, fucked up international relations, and they lost their only lead as to WHO could have been responsible for the attack.

Paul rolled a Natural 1 and went full speed retard.
 
This interview will probably negate most of any sympathy that QB had about her sudden death.

I mean, it is now publicly known that she tried to brainwash her opponent, who knows how many other times she has done this and not been caught?

A lot of the representatives of other countries are going to be investigating their reps that met QB after this.
 
Chaoswind said:
Yeah, no.

He can make the aura virtually invisible with the only downside being that it can't stop bullets (or anything lethal).

This was a complete and utter defeat for the good guys, they lost thousands of civilians lives, fucked up the PR of Adom (My SOD ends if any government actually trust him for anything ever), fucked up the PR of heroes, fucked up international relations, and they lost their only lead as to WHO could have been responsible for the attack.

Paul rolled a Natural 1 and went full speed retard.
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Yeah, in light of the WoZ, I just have to throw my hands up. I'm willing to give Zoat the benefit of the doubt, but unless Adom tore her apart at the skull, I'm just sort of like..:jackiechan:.
 
Avernus said:
That would depend on her religion, if any. Although she strikes me as the sort too egoistical to favor any religion that doesn't feature her as its deity.
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She is likely in Heaven.

She considered herself a good person and her motives while extremely selfish, WHERE indeed born of altruism and making life better for her subjects (and herself).

Remember Paul said the biggest problem with Hell and Heaven is that you HAVE to live up to your own standards, and she certainly lived up to hers.
 
PostwarGryphon said:
This interview will probably negate most of any sympathy that QB had about her sudden death.

I mean, it is now publicly known that she tried to brainwash her opponent, who knows how many other times she has done this and not been caught?

A lot of the representatives of other countries are going to be investigating their reps that met QB after this.
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But Paul already explained that her powers just make you like her and listen to her, is not brainwashing until she gives you an order.
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
Yeah, in light of the WoZ, I just have to throw my hands up. I'm willing to give Zoat the benefit of the doubt, but unless Adom tore her apart at the skull, I'm just sort of like..:jackiechan:.
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Why would Paul want her alive? Roanoke and the aftermath shows that desire is still a factor in his ability to use his ring, even with enlightenment.
 
Chaoswind said:
She is likely in Heaven.

She considered herself a good person and her motives while extremely selfish, WHERE indeed born of altruism and making life better for her subjects (and herself).

Remember Paul said the biggest problem with Hell and Heaven is that you HAVE to live up to your own standards, and she certainly lived up to hers.
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But isn't that a good thing?

I would hate to have a Heaven where society decides what makes me eligible to go to either. (example: real life)

Whether I go to heaven or hell, I don't want other humans to decide for me, the bastards.
 
igfry said:
But isn't that a good thing?

I would hate to have a Heaven where society decides what makes me eligible to go to either. (example: real life)

Whether I go to heaven or hell, I don't want other humans to decide for me, the bastards.
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I think the problem arises when person A is a right prick (Sunday morning consists of blending puppies to grease the stairwell at the local Mosque) but he thinks he's an alright bloke cause he makes it to church on time and says his prayers. Yay them.
Person B is a saintly chap, food drives for the elderly and highly vocal against the Bottletops in Blowholes pandemic but he's too hard on himself and always believes he could've done more/better.
Which of the two met their own standard?
Which "deserves" to go to Heaven?
 
kingpico said:
That escalated really quickly. Yet I'm not surprised. Goddammit Queen Bee.
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There really wasn't anything quick about this escalation. Hell, he even told her envoy that he'd make her into confetti if she did anything like that.

And then, of course, she did something like that :(

Dammit, Adom. Way to ruin a reputation.
 
So are going back to when politions killed each other over things like honor and grievances because at least then most of them would learn to shut their pie whole.

Also who wants to place bets on when queen bee is resurrected or at least cloned because her power could be somewhat useful? 6 week? 5 months? A year?
 
Sceptic said:
Called it. So who else has died in Paragon and not yet in Renegade, or vice verse?
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Renegade side Klarion is dead, as are the other wizards involved in the Roanoke incident.

The four wizards -Wotan, Faust, Zard and Thorn- are chained unmoving to gurneys with the arcane suppression chain I provided to them.
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Ra's al Ghul is probably dead Paragon-side, not Renegade side. Prince Orm/Ocean Master was dead both sides, is likely resurrected Paragonside, no idea Renegade side.

IIRC Red Torpedo was destroyed Renegade side and human-Morrow is just dead, not assimilated. Red Inferno/Firebrand is functional Renegade side but her nascent soul appears to be gone, which may count as dead.

The Burning Martian died Renegade-side.

Teekl is dead Renegade side, assimilated Paragon side.

The First of the Fallen is alive Renegade side, dead-ish Paragon side.

Various demons may be dead Paragon-side, depending on what the Ace of Winchesters actually does to them.
 
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