Qurac, too.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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Biyala as well. She was a bitch to her subject
He's the first polition in recent memory who promised something and then immediately did it without any bullshitting or time extensions.
Cornuthaum
Be kind to each other.
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When that politician has just come off a murderous rampage with dozens - if not hundreds - of fatalities, I'd much rather they step down from politics and join a monastery for a decade to find some inner peace.
That's the right of it.
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The_Letter_K
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It's one of my favorite things about this fic, that it considers and depicts the societal effects of superheroes, without becoming grimdark.
That might just be an accurate representation of daytime talk-show television, frankly.
Hooo boy. Imagine the turnover on THAT job.
"So you have a space station?"
"Yes."
"That's also a death laser?"
"...Yes."
"Good. Just being clear. I quit."
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Honestly figured that finding out more about the Apokoliptian weapons would rank higher, leading to healing to get that info.
Rossum
Not a Cyberman
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To be fair to Queen Bee, she could have done it unconsciously. I mean, she doesn't psychically emit telepathic instructions like "You are my slave now, Teth Adom. You want peace! PEACE!!" or say... fire 'emotion beams' that make people happy, sad, or suggestible or something like that.
She just emits pheromones... kind of like what you're probably doing right now and not realizing it.
You know that smell you can't consciously detect because your body has been subconsciously emitting it ever since you went through puberty and humans have a really crummy sense of smell even when they're not trying to describe their own odors? Yeah, that smell is probably pheromones. But you'll never know since... you know... humans have a crummy sense of smell.
Anyway, what I'm getting at is that Queen Bee's power seems to be "everyone who breathes air around her eventually gets mind-controlled if they are a heterosexual man or a homosexual woman". That's basically it. If these pheromones are emitted by her sweat or her skin then she's constantly emitting it to some extent and the best she can consciously control it would be to speed it up or slow it down... and that's assuming it doesn't naturally speed up if she gets hot... in an arid nation in big room full of people while a superpowered guy who can (and will) murder her at any time rants about how much he hates her and how he's certain she's guilty to an international press.
Queen Bee: Oh man, this the worst. *pulls out a handkerchief to mop her brow while looking over her cue cards once more*
Teth Adom: *sniffs the air and turns to her with murder in his eyes* You... Treacherous witch!
Queen Bee: What? OhshitnoIwasjust! *gets torn in half*
Keep in mind, all we know is that her pheremones make people suggestive. She has to actively command them to do stuff if she has anything in particular for them to do. She does that by talking. Though... I suppose the pheremones could have the side effect of them just liking her more in which case emitting the pheremones just make people stop being angry at her and start being friendly until she actively commands them to do something for her. In that case there's really no reason for her to not have it active 24/7.
Young Queen Bee: *sleeping in bed* Aw, yes Mrs. Buzzy, I will help you find your dandy lions!
Assassin: *Sneaking up on her with a knife in hand* Yess, once I kill the heir to the throne, Bialya will belong to the people and my Master will take control! *prepares to stab her*
Young Queen Bee's Pheromone Gland: Oh, no ya don't. *emits pheremones*
Assassin: ... daww... so cute. *drops the knife*
Bodyguard: *steps in through the door* Hey, what's with this... Assassin! *pulls a gun*
Assassin: *with a goofy grin on his face* Huh? BLAM! *gets shot*
Young Queen Bee: *still asleep* Yay... fireworks. *snore*
I mean, there's really no reason for her to not be using her pheromones 24/7 and no reason for the off switch to even be in her conscious control. She could have been sitting there hearing Adom rant about her and then her pheromone glands are all "Stress detected. Emitting 'friendliness pheromones' to ensure happiness." completely without her conscious input.
I guess what I'm saying is that Queen Bee probably just automatically uses her pheromones all the time, and expecting otherwise would be kind of naive. She was pretty much dead as soon as she agreed to meet him in person and if anything the fact that it took Adom 3 minutes to flip out means that she had probably taken a shower and gotten fresh clothes just before the meeting started and it took 3 minutes for her metahuman sweat glands to resume their automatic task of "make everyone obey us". If Adom or OL didn't want Queen Bee dead, they should have either had Adom wear nose plugs or put Queen Bee behind a TV screen or use some kind of magical air purification spell or xenotech on the room to ensure the pheremones weren't possible.
Unless of course someone just synthesized Queen Bee's pheremones and sprayed it in the air to frame her.
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Thank you, corrected.
Think that's right.
Thank you, corrected.
Whelp that just happened. Queen Bee earning the winning a stupid award for dying in two universes. At least this time it was by an actual person and not some random turret.
I'm wondering where the point of separation was, horizontal, vertical, diagonally? did he use his fist to make a hole and rip from there?
I'm wondering where the point of separation was, horizontal, vertical, diagonally? did he use his fist to make a hole and rip from there?
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Of course he is a superhero. He has super powers, and he definitely heroic.
Being a statesman does not nullify that
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Rem
fite me
Vertically or horizontally?
I'd assume you mean horizontally, but with a sufficiently motivated Teth Adom who even knows?
I only got it when reading this story as well.I feel stupid that I only just got this.
If Queen Bee tried to use mind control on Adam, that's the ruler of one country directly attacking the ruler of another. Would that mean that the two countries are now at war? If so, the war may not necessarily end when the queen is killed, and Adam may have the right to dictate surrender terms up to and including surrendering the whole country to his control.
I vaguely recall reading that she was actually a relatively fair ruler to her subjects, and was generally liked by them.
It's just that her foreign policy was suicidally stupid. Also, evidently, stupidly suicidal.
Dammit Beena. Gods dammit Adom.
Can we be certain that Beena was releasing those pheromones, or someone else dumped a synthesized version into the throne room to elicit this very reaction?
What of an involuntary reaction? Does Beena have access to a Lazarus Pit?
Competent ruler, and more socially liberal than the local culture would suggest.
As long as you stayed out of politics most Bialyans would do rather well.
Can we be certain that Beena was releasing those pheromones, or someone else dumped a synthesized version into the throne room to elicit this very reaction?
What of an involuntary reaction? Does Beena have access to a Lazarus Pit?
This.
Competent ruler, and more socially liberal than the local culture would suggest.
As long as you stayed out of politics most Bialyans would do rather well.
The fact that there is a calm interview going on rather than an all out shitstorm makes me think OL was able to want her alive enough to at least sort of put her back together. Maybe sans powers though.
As far as whether or not she has conscious control of her pheromones, I checked and noticed she had a fairly long conversation with Grayven before the pheremones reached him.
Looking back at his assessment of her I think Grayven nailed it:
Either she consciously has to activate them or they are fairly slow; either explains why it took minutes for Adom to notice. And they apparently aren't "always on" or the air would have already been filled with them.
Looking back at his assessment of her I think Grayven nailed it:
It was trying to play at a level she couldn't that got her in the end. She tried to chemically manipulate Adom, and got splattered because she tried that while in the same room with a guy she knew had no problems killing, had already made it clear that treachery would be rewarded with death, and that she had no chance whatsoever against in a physical confrontation.
True. Especially since superheroes usually have powers that are not much good for anything on the "international events" scale but smashing things.
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She was ok to homosexuals because she could mind control lesbians.
But remember when she tried to conquer her neighboring country? she was claiming they were voting to join her but that was bunk because they all know she is really bad to her citizens, particularly on human rights, so they absolutely didn't want to be annexed
Adom was pretty justified there, she was trying to mind control him. that is the most reasonable response
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the ring could probably detect it, also she really was that stupid based on her death in the red options, also she had no choice if she was really involved in the attack (which is pretty obvious) adom made it clear he would kill her for it when wonder woman confirms her guilt, so it was mind control him or die
She consciously has to activate them, but adom is also highly resistant to them due to his gifts
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You're seriously reaching dude.
Could have been settled with a glass pane separating the two. Would have taken OL three seconds to make.
Stupid idea to meet him/her in the same room.
Stupid idea to meet him/her in the same room.
Maybe but it does create an interesting way to look at things.
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