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Oh, my mistake.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Actually Troia was confirmed in story to be Christian, Hades asks if she's decided to give up on her carpenter.
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No one heard what they said in the sky.
Thank you, corrected.
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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So when Paul told the League the reasons for the meet up they likely told the UN and of course the details about Eden got out to public if not all the details.
Would explain the requests they are getting.
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Thank you, corrected.
Satannus is nothing like as powerful as Lucifer or the First. And you better believe that he's been busy since then.
Next two segments with Ms Grant.
No, absolutely not. Go away, you horrid scabby thing.
There aren't actually all that many Durlans, and the Chinese are going very 'there is no war in Ba Sing Se' about it.
It caused a bit of one, but an awful lot of people just decided that it wasn't a Titan, just a lump of water animated by Atlantean magic after an Atlantean supervillain got a boost from somewhere.
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The Source is the Source. The Elaine-Presence-Source trinity makes no more sense to me than the canonical one.
I've never been fishing anywhere, particularly not in the Northern Territory.
Nice try, but no. He actually trailed off to a stop before starting again, earning three dots.
"Batman." / "Diana-."
Riots don't just 'happen'. An angel appearing stirs a lot of things that might have stayed under the surface. Remember how Kahndaq rose up in revolt after Klarion split the world, despite not being affected much by it?
The worship a variety of deities. Poseidonis tends towards Roman ones. I should also point out that a large number of citizens share the 'jumped up elementals' viewpoint. Ahri'ahn was doing it before it was popular.
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Yes.
Only a few have met him, and as such there isn't anything like a unified view. He also hasn't made much impact on the more important ones. Darkseid made a note that the Ophidian had moved, but that was about it.
While Detective Chimp has featured, he isn't a detective at this point in his timeline. I will not be using The Phantom Stranger, because I dislike vaguely powerful mystics.
About a week. He gets Knockout a sidekick and adopts another daughter.
Okay, they don't know for sure that he's an angel, but there are a lot more telescopes around than directional microphones good enough to pick up what he and the Si were saying.
Go for it!
Buddhist.
Methodist-brand Christian, though in keeping with the spirit of his denomination is perfectly happy to go to another denomination's church if it's closer to where he's working.
Mildly guilty Christian, actually.
Church of England. He regards the Druidic elements of his training as a sort of folk-science.
Robin's episcopalian. It was mentioned once when he said that Batman switched church for his benefit after adopting him.
Well remembered.
Trunko
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Any question you ask on any topic will likely offend someone. So don't worry about it , just go ahead and ask.
Ok, here's my question: what would Scientology think about Paul's actions?
Zoat, that's how you make someone happy!
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well damn, I guess your right. I guess only batman, and most of the general public see the silver city as something to worship. the main point that he's not considering how batman or wonder woman see messing with Heaven as something that should not be done casually is utterly defatted because I somewhat overstated exactly how many of them where christen. curses, my entire argument that Paul is failing to understand why anyone would be uncomfortable attracting the attention of God or his agents has fallen apart.
Prince Charon
Just zis guy, you know?
I think they're both learning that they need to ask him how he's going to do something before confirming that he should do something long-term and unsupervised. At the very least, they're both intelligent enough to work that out.
Breadnaugt
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Save the JLU version of Ace from her Sad End?
"Congratulations sweetie, you're twins now!"
"... wait. What? Dad, did you clone me?"
Or maybe he found Cassandra Cain? He mentioned her a few episodes ago.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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In general? They're likely trying to work out how to recruit him. He has virtually unlimited money, after all.
You know, in a universe where multiple deities verifiably exist, I don't see any contradiction in worshipping multiple of them, so long as their philosophies are compatible. Hellenists worship/respect the entire pantheon, even if they usually only focus on a small number of gods. It's not really any different if you decide to include a few other deities into your worship list, even if a few of them stick out a bit from the rest.
The members of that religion may give you odd looks though.
Trunko
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Please somebody writes something with this as a concept! It's too funny to not be made!
NemiTheNen
Perpetual Phone Poster
NT is Neurotypical. I'm autistic with some other flavors of fun thrown in. Paul is perfectly reasonable and relatable to me 99% of the time. When he turned his attraction off? My reaction was "Ah yes, good,"/"Yes,
So when I read the thread and people go on about how he's unlikeable and doesn't make sense, I go ah ha, there's the NT.
Well, we know Elaine isn't necessary. I mean...you got matter and energy floating around even with there isn't a Presence, it's someone sitting on the primiam mobile that basically makes everything behave. Or so I reason it out.
So a lot of people got telephoto upskirt shots of a guy wearing a Thanagarian bird-helmet and there are riots around the world? Why does this not happen every time the Hawks go somewhere, then?
I'm starting to think the only way to make this make sense is to trade the bird-helmet for a halo.
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I expect this has been mentioned before, but...
Paul is heavily associated with a snake.
He convinced Blaze(i.e. Eve) to eat the Apple of Eden.
Then, using the example of Blaze, he convinced Zauriel (i.e. Adam) to also eat the apple, in order to disobey the orders of God.
In the bible, the snake was cursed for this act, and was forced to slither on the ground; Paul now has to interact directly with humanity for PR purposes. (Does this make Batman God, as the person who punished Paul?)
What's going to happen to Adam and Eve? In this metaphor, what's the garden of eden?
Edit: Zoat has rated this Funny. I guess it was just a coincidence?
Paul is heavily associated with a snake.
He convinced Blaze(i.e. Eve) to eat the Apple of Eden.
Then, using the example of Blaze, he convinced Zauriel (i.e. Adam) to also eat the apple, in order to disobey the orders of God.
In the bible, the snake was cursed for this act, and was forced to slither on the ground; Paul now has to interact directly with humanity for PR purposes. (Does this make Batman God, as the person who punished Paul?)
What's going to happen to Adam and Eve? In this metaphor, what's the garden of eden?
Edit: Zoat has rated this Funny. I guess it was just a coincidence?
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Wrong. DC has Atanteans worship Atlantean Gods, since you know, they are neither Greek nor Roman, but their own culture older than either.
Modern Atlanteans worship an elemental triumvirate. It was a freaking plot point when the Greek god Triton invaded Atlantis and executed the Atlantean Minister of Faith for not worshipping him as part of the temper tantrum that ended when Aquaman executed him.
Ancient Atlanteans worshipped the Weaver, Chaon, Gemimn, Tynan, and Deedra, who would be the depowered deities I mentioned living in modern day New York.
Now maybe post-flashpoint the Atlanteans worship Greek or Roman gods, I wouldn't know.
As for YJ Atlantis, sure it has plenty of nods to classical mythology- name of city states, the Trident of Neptune, but you know where the YJ writers got those elements of Atlantis? From the comics, in which Atlantis has its own deities.
You know what the YJ writers did add to Atlantis? A city state named after a Hawaiian deity ruled by a king who is named after said Hawaiian deity.
So if if the Atlanteans worship the Roman gods, it looks like that would be a surprise to the writers of Young Justice since their Atlantis has room for hawaiian shark people.
Or am I misremembering? Did an episode of YJ say they worship Roman deities? Which one, I'll refresh my memory? An issue of the tie in comic I didn't read? In which case, what number please? Or maybe word of god from the Ask Greg, in which case I'd appreciate the link.
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Zauriel does not wear a skirt.
Because the SI persuaded Hawkwoman to change her armour.
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and now we know why!
TheLurker
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...you realize that neither of those are any sort of actual reason for why this guy, who you literally said just kinda looks like a tattooed thanagarian, wearing a literal hawk helmet, with no halo, who nobody heard talking, is somehow automatically an angel, right? Hawkwoman and Hawkman went around for years in almost identical costumes, but this guy is suddenly an angel, and causes riots?
Like, it feels like you're just kinda tiptoing around this really quite valid point because it makes the story more difficult to have go the way you want.
Hell it's easy to solve too, just say that people from the lab leaked that it was an angel, or leaked an audio clip, or something. Not these half-assed excuses that don't actually excuse anything.
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"Uptabard" doesn't scan as well, but if you insist.
Ah, so the world instantly assumed this guy must be an Angel because his wedding tackle is just that awe-inspiring? Maybe Shannon won't turn him down, now that's hes been on prime time.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Actually the Universe started turning itself off after The Presence left. Micheal was able to slow/stop it, but it also left the universe open to being usurped, and caused/allowed a bunch of other problems from making the World Tree more vulnerable, to inviting the armies of uncreation of storm heaven now that they knew that the Throne of Heaven was vacant and so storming heaven became a meaningful move.
It caused like... four end of the world (The Fires of Creation fading, two denizens of the dreaming started usurping reality, Fenrir attacking the World Tree, and the armies of Lilith and uncreation storming heaven) events one after another, with no side of stopping until either someone took the throne or everything ended. And it's completely possible I've forgotten a fifth apocalypse in there. Note that they weren't all happening separately, it was getting the the point that the next apocalypse was starting before the last one was stopped.
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Nah, a few of the Atlanteans got drunk and talked about it.
Empiricist2
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He wasn't moving his wings, something the Hawks need to do.
Seeing a figure with wings, dressed in white robes, hovering unmoving in the sky while talking with someone? Being an Angel isn't the only possibility, it could be Superman in cosplay, but I think it's the most likely. Or at the least a pretty plausible hypothesis.
Also, there's no mention of a helmet when he talks to the SI, so his pure white eyes could have been visible while he was just hanging around downtown.
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