That's rude and unlikable. Like, he actually harassed them?
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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That's rude and unlikable. Like, he actually harassed them?
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- Oblivion
I kind of want him to do that... If only for the sheer amusement that would come from the high likelihood of it doing absolutely nothing.
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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- A Valid Location
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That's the sticky part. God said it can't be acquired. It's not allowed.
Thanatos757
Captain of the Four Knights
So, God is trying to get Paul back into Chaotic Good territory by giving him a literal Shoulder Angel. That's hilarious.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. He's not going to hurt someone who does him no harm, it violates his higher moralities/priorities. But he also really doesn't want the angel following him.
Blazinghand
O cursèd spite
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- California
surely this will end up with them being best buddies and teammates forever now pls
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- Ashtabula
Curious. That the Angel would refer to him as jesus christ when that certainly was not his name. Granted I assume that is just Zoat using the most well known name.
*headcanon* Must have been the ring translation.
Also, not going to leave his side until he repents? Hey Paul, anti-demon weapon.
*headcanon* Must have been the ring translation.
Also, not going to leave his side until he repents? Hey Paul, anti-demon weapon.
Heleor
^_^
It works on my computer, but not when I'm reading on mobile. I think it's using a font that has to be installed.
Lone Courier 6
Devilish Fool
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- United States of Quests
I like the Angel, Paul LITTERALY can't get rid of him without violence or changing his mind, sonweres stuck with Zauriel who's smart enough to not be the agressor.
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- Earth
Paul is already chaotic good, IMO... strongly chaotic, but still.
JoJa
So close to awesome, but only a bootleg
this should be following, yes?
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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- Baton Rouge
He could have just asked for the pomegranate. He specifically mentions that God's commadments don't apply to him, and the Angel doesn't contradict him when he confirms that he isn't lying. He isn't bound by the decree that no one take the fruit. So if he had simply asked the Angel for one fruit, offered his confirmation that he isn't banned from having it, and given some form of compensation, he had no preexisting knowledge that the Angel would definitely refuse. Especially when the fruit was going to be used explicitly to fight against demons, a better use than having it simply sit there.
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nmWarden
Webcomic Glutton
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I wonder what other actions one could commit to get an angel sicked on them. Maybe Grayven will commit them in the future.
Shouldn't Paul realize that in the DC universe anything that can be personified can be defeated by hitting it really, really hard? Paul is powerful, but he should know better than to try to change the rules a universe plays by for something as vain as personal preference.
As for his arguments here: I don't think he has much ground to stand on. He is making a single "weapon" out of this research. He isn't building tools fit for police or an army even though both of those are likely to contribute against demonic plots. He is already aware of the Ace of Winchesters and an order of Christian exorcists that are likely competent against demons. He knows the planet is not helpless. I suppose this research could lead to unrelated breakthroughs, but that is not certain.
Shouldn't Paul realize that in the DC universe anything that can be personified can be defeated by hitting it really, really hard? Paul is powerful, but he should know better than to try to change the rules a universe plays by for something as vain as personal preference.
As for his arguments here: I don't think he has much ground to stand on. He is making a single "weapon" out of this research. He isn't building tools fit for police or an army even though both of those are likely to contribute against demonic plots. He is already aware of the Ace of Winchesters and an order of Christian exorcists that are likely competent against demons. He knows the planet is not helpless. I suppose this research could lead to unrelated breakthroughs, but that is not certain.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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Well, that didn't go anywhere that you'd expect in a Comic Book Superhero Story. No gratuitous face punching, and one party has explicitly acknowledged (if only within his head) that fighting the other is not the right thing to do in order to avoid that sort of thing. It does say something about Paul's... I don't know if corruption is quite the right word for it, perhaps alienation of thought? Anyway, it says something about him that his immediate response was 'I can't be having with this fellow following me around all the time, I'm going to have to do something extreme like rip out his heart or damn him to Fall in contravention of his duty and stated wishes.'
Man though, given this is a Hellblazer Universe, Zauriel's existence as a Not Arse Angel is a bit of an issue...
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Well, that didn't go anywhere that you'd expect in a Comic Book Superhero Story. No gratuitous face punching, and one party has explicitly acknowledged (if only within his head) that fighting the other is not the right thing to do in order to avoid that sort of thing. It does say something about Paul's... I don't know if corruption is quite the right word for it, perhaps alienation of thought? Anyway, it says something about him that his immediate response was 'I can't be having with this fellow following me around all the time, I'm going to have to do something extreme like rip out his heart or damn him to Fall in contravention of his duty and stated wishes.'
Man though, given this is a Hellblazer Universe, Zauriel's existence as a Not Arse Angel is a bit of an issue...
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- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
That one is intentional.
He waited until they ground to a halt, and started lecturing them before the choir master could. Yes, it was rude, but they were really bad at it.
Chaoswind
Lord of nonsense
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- Latin America
That only applies to the descendants of Adam and Eve, so Paul could have easily argued he isn't in the list.
The problem is that the fruit isn't for Paul, Blaze ate the fruit and SHE IS in the prohibition list.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
Instructed by who? I though that God was out of contact.
No, god said that humans couldn't eat it. All the angel has to demonstrate would be one of the following:
1) That the commandment doesn't apply to non-humans. Records of interacting with various godly entities of different pantheons would work
2) Demonstrate that angels can exercise discretion and that he would be allowed to take the fruit for the greater good - this could probably be done by reminding Paul of Angel/Succubus lovestory, where angel didn't try to kill the succubus or some other such event
3) Demonstrate that the commandment is literal, and that taking the fruit isn't the same as eating it - records of rules lawyering would work.
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So our whole "must convert to repent" assumption was wrong. Darn.
15.17 "He made how much cake?"
23.2 "Who do these "New Gods" think they are?"
37.4 "Ah, John Constantine, we finally meet. I must admit I expected you to be taller."
So an angel gets assigned to Paul, who is fighting the forces of Hell, as a "punishment" that will end only when he repents. Which he is unlikely to do. In the meantime, the Angel will just hang around, and if he happens to encounter the forces of hell....
Folks, is it possible the Silver City is being very, very clever indeed? That they're working around some restriction we don't understand in order to smuggle an angel onto Earth when ordinarily they couldn't?
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