Whoa, what really. I hate to ask this but what state did you go to school in because literally none of that was covered except in the most general, this is a thing, terms.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
Oh, and on the revised instalment:
from a glass house
throw my arms up
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- Christchurch, NZ
Is Batman ok with you using his quote here?
RE: Philosophy, yeah, I've not been too impressed by most of the work I've seen. Far too many times modern stuff is someone is feeling very proud about pointing out that you can form contradictions in English, normally due to using very weak definitions, or ignoring that most words only have meaning with respect to a context. Even filtering to published, commonly cited work, Stugeon's Law is in full effect.
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- Sector 2814
In terms of education rankings, it was a very middle of the pack state. To be fair, honors programs accounted for a lot of the philosophy reading. But the practical skills training? Everyone got that. I don't know if it was part of the state curriculum (thinking back, those modules weren't taught from the actual textbook), but the school made it part of the basic economics curriculum. This was before Common Core was a thing, though...
torrmercury
Necromancer
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- Chicago
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- He/Him
Definitely not NY/NYC then, cause that's where I grew up/graduated from high school. It's mind boggling that that's not standard cause I was in a top tier school...
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- Somewhere out there
It should be noted that by Plato's standards nearly EVERYONE is a philosopher-king nowadays. Nearly everyone owns property (maybe not real estate, but property). Most people don't earn a living through hard manual labor. Everyone has to deal with diplomatic and political relationships on a regular basis. So the bulk of the population can, in classical terms, be considered to be a minor lord.
If you went to high school in the 90s then that makes perfect sense; when I was in high school we had an entire course on household duties -- learning how to cook, learning the basics of how to sew, learning how to sanitize a kitchen, etc. They didn't call it "home economics" anymore because of the housewife connotations but it was a valuable class and I think modern students are poorer for lacking it.
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- Oblivion
So you aren't going to add some lead up to the Garden of Eden?
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- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
Those are lexicographers. A noble profession to be sure, but not philosophers.
No more than already exists.So you aren't going to add some lead up to the Garden of Eden?
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- Oblivion
That's disappointing, I had rather hoped you would show Paul at least doing some research into the subject instead of him just handwaving away and assuming everything.
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- Hampden Park
What do you mean? He learned the location of Eden the previous year from John. It was specifically mentioned. The other further research he could do would be to talk to Angela Spatchcock, and she doesn't really know that much. After he got the fruit he handed it over to Sephtian for a while. He doesn't really have the ability to research its functionality himself.That's disappointing, I had rather hoped you would show Paul at least doing some research into the subject instead of him just handwaving away and assuming everything.
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- Oceanside
He also said that "Gaurdians should oppose that which is unfamiliar" and be "impressionable, noble puppies".
Without making my answer too long: I've lived around in the US, had secondary school in California, and personally, I learned little to nothing worth learning about taxation. I swear that there's a conspiracy to make the American public ignorant of the matter.
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Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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- Baton Rouge
Part of the more general problem is that you have a story that's measured in millions of words. People forget lots of those little details. I've read the entire story at least three times, and I briefly forgot during Demeanour that the SI can't say his own name. And have done the same a few times since then. In cases like this, you're expecting someone to remember what they probably considered fluff details from multiple years ago.
But you may not be able to see very far in the Kryptonite fog.
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- Hampden Park
I hadn't even remembered that until you mentioned it.
Obloquy
CrossMyHeart And HopeToDie, StickANeedleInMyEye
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- the Physical Realm
:lolDid you guys do that on purpose?
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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- Baton Rouge
I will admit to no such thing.:lolDid you guys do that on purpose?
Science
If you're reading this, omae wa mo shindeiru.
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- Killeen, TX
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- Somewhere out there
I know you meant that sarcastically, but if you look at what people do instead of just what they believe, it does look an awful lot like that.
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- Somewhere.
Yeah, uh, we pretty much...don't. Not to any significant degree...
TIL: Americans don't believe in volunteer work, or altruism.
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- Earth
TIL: Americans don't believe in volunteer work, or altruism.
I mean, looking at "americans" in general, yeah. There are plenty of exceptions, of course, but belief in capitalism is strong here, and if you believe capitalism can accomplish anything, why would you support volunteering or "handouts"?
Suffice to say I don't agree with this ideology at all, as I am a socialist, but I don't want to start a debate that gets the thread locked again. And Zoat seems to pretty clearly be a capitalist, going off of how he's written the story when capitalism is relevant.
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- Somewhere out there
It appears more that the Orange Light is inherently capitalist (expend personal power for personal gain) than any statement of the author's own opinions. In fact, the SI's inability to handle fiat currency early in the fic suggests that it's not "pretty clearly be a capitalist" at all.
(EDIT: Not to say that it's a sign that he's NOT capitalist, either, but rather that it's more nuanced than a simple label.)
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Science
If you're reading this, omae wa mo shindeiru.
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- Killeen, TX
Believing it's not the government's business is not believing it's nobody's business.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/volun.pdf
We pretty much do.
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Yay for philosophy discussions! I know it may not be to some people's taste, but I like seeing them in superhero stories.
You took the words right out of my mouth, I have the same issue.
It also makes sense, considering the planet they evolved on. Judging from what the comic I read showed of it, having a stupidity-inducing psychic field that doesn't affect your own species sounds like one of the most effective ways of surviving a single hour.
It also makes sense from OL's point of view, since his enlightenment means that doublethink is basically impossible for him. What he believes, he does.
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- Somewhere out there
So you're telling me less than 20% of Americans actually volunteer instead of just believing that volunteerism is a good thing... and that's support for your claim?
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