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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Thinking about it, Kon's statement that his Helios brand heat vision "Doesn't really work well in enclosed spaces" implies that testing it for the first time must have been interesting.

"We all agreed that it was pretty impressive, once we'd replaced the target Kon vaporized. And the wall. And the other wall."
 
Mr Zoat said:
Mas murdering angles? And I though my proof reading was bud.
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It was a special crossover with HPL's Hounds of Tindalos.:V

More seriously, my auto-correct seems to have become possessed. I tried in this post to hit the auto-complete choice for "auto-correct" and it spit out this instead: "autocauto-co"
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ThrawnCA said:
Are you thinking of Jews? Even then, I don't think they're forbidden to use God's name, it's just that if they write it down, they can't just crumple the paper and throw it away. So they try to minimise that.

The only restriction on God's name in the Bible is "don't use in vain" ie don't say it unless you actually want to talk to/about Him.
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Tradition in both Judaism and most (but not all) denominations of Christianity admonish against using it at all in the interest of not accidentally using it in vain. It's not written in scripture directly but it's still there.

Lazy Coyote said:
You know, this is the only story I've ever found that lets me go "I watched a guy pleasure a giant spider" and be genuinely happy about it.
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To be fair, that might be because you didn't actually see it.
 
Coda said:
Tradition in both Judaism and most (but not all) denominations of Christianity admonish against using it at all in the interest of not accidentally using it in vain. It's not written in scripture directly but it's still there.
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I mean, isn't his name canonically Yahweh, though?
 
Actually, "Jehovah" is a gibberish attempt to say YHVH by using the voyels of another word (Adonis IIRC), according to Biblical matters expert Thomas Römer (if you speak French go check his College de France course).

Also, the whole "not saying God's name" thing came around 1000 BC when the religion became monotheistic - names are for things you need to distinguish from others similar, so a single god with a name would be a contradiction of a sort.

The correct way to say YHVH is subject to debate (probably because of regional accents), but according to Römer was likely something like Yahweh (which is the commonly accepted one). Fun fact : "yahoo" is another possible choice, and I'll let you guys speculate on that.
 
Crimson Doom said:
I mean, I personally blame the lack of vowels. How the hell does a language develop without a way to write vowels?!
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It HAS a way to write vowels. You're just allowed to leave them out if it's understood by both the writer and the reader what the word is supposed to be.

Sorry if you're coming back two thousand years later and don't remember what you meant the first time.
 
Coda said:
It HAS a way to write vowels. You're just allowed to leave them out if it's understood by both the writer and the reader what the word is supposed to be.

Sorry if you're coming back two thousand years later and don't remember what you meant the first time.
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On the one hand, that makes more sense than just not having any vowels. On the other hand, that's still really stupid. For the sake of clarity, the writer should always be including the vowels.
 
Crimson Doom said:
On the one hand, that makes more sense than just not having any vowels. On the other hand, that's still really stupid. For the sake of clarity, the writer should always be including the vowels.
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By that logic, you should never use pronouns.

Remember that this was an age where scribes manually copied every manuscript using ink on animal skins. The written language developed to keep things efficient and resistant to transcription errors. Leaving out things that aren't strictly necessary is a significant boon. Implied vowels is common to most Middle Eastern written languages, and it doesn't usually cause a loss of information because of the way vocabulary works in that language family -- the consonants define the root word, and the vowels just give grammatical detail. Older languages, such as Phoenician and Egyptian, didn't even HAVE symbols for vowels.

The Greeks added vowel symbols to the Phoenician alphabet because classical Greek is NOT structured like that. The vowel sounds are a critical part of distinguishing words from each other instead of just distinguishing grammatical variations of the same word.
 
Coda said:
By that logic, you should never use pronouns.

Remember that this was an age where scribes manually copied every manuscript using ink on animal skins. The written language developed to keep things efficient and resistant to transcription errors. Leaving out things that aren't strictly necessary is a significant boon. Implied vowels is common to most Middle Eastern written languages, and it doesn't usually cause a loss of information because of the way vocabulary works in that language family -- the consonants define the root word, and the vowels just give grammatical detail. Older languages, such as Phoenician and Egyptian, didn't even HAVE symbols for vowels.

The Greeks added vowel symbols to the Phoenician alphabet because classical Greek is NOT structured like that. The vowel sounds are a critical part of distinguishing words from each other instead of just distinguishing grammatical variations of the same word.
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Now, see, if you had opened with this, I'd not have made the arguments that I did.
 
Crimson Doom said:
On the one hand, that makes more sense than just not having any vowels. On the other hand, that's still really stupid. For the sake of clarity, the writer should always be including the vowels.
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Who says they're not making it as difficult as possible because ancient rabbis were snarky as fuck? My own Biblical history class taught Aaron made the golden calf in the Torah because he was the patriarchal figure of Northern Israel, while Southen Israel had Moses and wanted to make Aaron look bad.
 
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