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*shrug* When Hell stuff has come up in the story I rarely get the feeling that they're including the dishonored dead of Hel or talking about the Ten Yama Kings.
I was referring to alien religions. Krypton's outpost of Hell was ruled by things called Glass Lords.
Just discovered today that canon Young Justice has (recently?) appeared on Netflix. Tempting, except, am I just going to constantly think, "This would go so much better with a competent Lantern on the team"?
Oh, you're making me blush.
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shakes it exactly
Don't need the hyphen for words ending in -ly.
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Why do you ask Paul questions like this?!
How soon they forget...
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sniffing them and then licking them
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Yeah, but DC is so way off from Mormon doctrine that it in no way offends me.
Look, you people already got South Park.
I think there's an extra hand here?
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I'm not sure what this refers to. Did they do repairs on the Ace or something?
No, but the metal is allegedly taken from Angel halos.
Oh and I know Supergirl is the hot topic for the thread right now, but I'd like to take this Kryptonian hype in another direction: Doomsday. Possibly Doomsday fighting The Main Man.
I was going to have Doomsday be the origin of the Genomorph's genetic material. But then I found out that someone else on the internet had done that, so I decided to change that.
 
I think both the comic and the show try to portray the fact the outside the general idea of who is 'good' and who is 'evil', it shows how us humans can be especially great or terrible beings due to our own free will, and is Lucifer 'evil' or immoral because he chooses to be or is it just his natural state and the same could be said about God.

Like how the human Paul can at times seem inhuman compared to his New God counterpart Grayven whose very nature has become Conquest itself.

It's like how in the show the journalist Reese couldn't get over the fact that Lucifer in no way shape or form affects the choices he makes, which leads to him getting an innocent girl killed and accidently hiting his soon to be ex-wife, because as everyone knows the Devil is 'Evil' but no he's just a shitty human being to ignorant or in denial to face the truth.

The part of JLAction I enjoyed was when Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes) and Batman go back in time when Batman started out as a vigilante and a callback to Batman The Animated Series.
 
I was referring to alien religions. Krypton's outpost of Hell was ruled by things called Glass Lords.

Ah, ok. Sorry if I'm annoying you with all this by the way. =/ I would say that making the Christian Hell interstellar is another example of Christianity's tendency to be singled out since I presume the Greek or Norse gods don't have a presence outside of the solar system. Mind, it would be amusing if Mars had some role in Martian society since, you know, humans named the planet after him.
 
(Which happened to the Lucifer TV-Series, i had so much hope...)
And God, the Devil and Bob.
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I'm sorry what show we're you watching?
Because I seem to remember quite a few happily mass-murdering angles traipsing through(ok only one confirmed mass-muderer) but we've only seen three angles so far and only had four even mentioned so far if you count Lucifer himself.
Mas murdering angles? And I though my proof reading was bud.
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I'm not sure how this sentence would continue... Unless it should be "interesting to hear"?
just to reiterate:
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Can't you tell?!
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Not necessarily wrong, but maybe "wrought iron handle"?
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Not necessarily wrong, but probably meant to be "cancerous"
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Ah, ok. Sorry if I'm annoying you with all this by the way.
It takes a lot more than this...
=/ I would say that making the Christian Hell interstellar is another example of Christianity's tendency to be singled out since I presume the Greek or Norse gods don't have a presence outside of the solar system. Mind, it would be amusing if Mars had some role in Martian society since, you know, humans named the planet after him.
"It's named after me. Does that mean it's mine, or do I have to build something on it first?"
 
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Ah, ok. Sorry if I'm annoying you with all this by the way. =/ I would say that making the Christian Hell interstellar is another example of Christianity's tendency to be singled out since I presume the Greek or Norse gods don't have a presence outside of the solar system. Mind, it would be amusing if Mars had some role in Martian society since, you know, humans named the planet after him.

That's what the writers thought, since precrisis Mars' minions were yellow martians.
 
"It's named after me. Does that mean it's mine, or do I have to build something on it first?"


In short, most hells are just little fiefdoms inside the 'Warp' that grew around the first of the fallen when he told the source free will was a bad idea. Souls in hell mutate and become Demons because the warp is a soup of souls with different concepts of self image. In short 'Hell' is an universal plane of existence not unlike the Shadow Lands, IE they exist on a universal scale but most planets/religions only have limited access to parts of it.


So most Christian saints and stuff like Angels are just theurgys with a connection to the source aka one among many religious denominations with a real connection to the source instead of being the bearers of 'THE ONLY' connection.

@Mr Zoat a question.

If hell grew around the first of the fallen when the source casted him out, does this mean something similar happened to create the Shadow Lands and whatever the realm the king of tears and Nekrom rule are called?
 
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If hell grew around the first of the fallen when the source casted him out, does this mean something similar happened to create the Shadow Lands
Explicitly so.
and whatever the realm the king of tears
The King of Tears isn't actually a Demon. It's a weird thingy from a place with different physical laws.
and Nekrom rule are called?
Who?
 

So what did the great darkness do to get cast out by the source?


Anyways universal hell is pretty scary when we consider that Saturnus probably has access to the other fiefdoms now, the other big demons are unlikely to just let him walk around their place to do whatever, but he probably earned a certain level of respect because his plan (the backup, of the backup, of the backup) did result on the first of the fallen losing a significant amount of power.


Wait! Does Demon Constantine have the memories of when the first reincarnated as a human? Because i don't see Saturnus wasting time with little sister blaze when there is a reincarnated First of the fallen he can probably capture to get an even bigger power up and stronger access to the other fiefdoms of hell.
 
Wait! Does Demon Constantine have the memories of when the first reincarnated as a human? Because i don't see Saturnus wasting time with little sister blaze when there is a reincarnated First of the fallen he can probably capture to get an even bigger power up and stronger access to the other fiefdoms of hell.
No, he probably wouldn't.
 
I'm actually really happy he's back on earth, The space stuff was interesting but as I'm not a diehard DC fanboy I don't have the same attachment to the characters there compared to the young justice line-up who have had lots of character building to get me invested.

Also the thing with Jade was hilarious and so totally Paul that I spent a few minutes just cackling to myself about it.
 
I was going to have Doomsday be the origin of the Genomorph's genetic material. But then I found out that someone else on the internet had done that, so I decided to change that.
My headcanon in this story was that both the Genomorphs and the Trenchers are derived from the lost pre-Atlantean Rmoahal race. They were advanced, nonhuman and telepathic so seem to qualify for the backstories of both groups.

So what did the great darkness do to get cast out by the source?
Looking it up, the Great Darkness apparently retreated on its own.
 
Honestly it always bugs me a bit when Christian stuff is treated as more powerful than others.
You and me both. Honestly? Once something christian shows up in something supernatural/mythological I automatically tune out. I remember when it happened when I was a kid in Hercules and Xena, even then I was like "Seriously?"

My mother watches this show, I can't remember what it's called, It's got two brothers that are so emotionally incestual that it's actually kind of nauesiating. (and never ending yaoi fuel) But when my dad was in both of his two long chemical comas (heart surgery and broken neck if you're curious) I had to watch a LOT of this show with her while I was looking after her. It was almost interesting (though woefully without a budget) at first. But the second angels showed up I wanted to scream. Then Lucifer literally walked his way through just about EVERY other pantheon and I think the brothers killed Zeus or something. Ugh.

Christian hell is honestly just a default option.
Yeah, it's been said, but it's always a case of write what you know. Which is sad, because again, christian mythology is just so...boring.

Just discovered today that canon Young Justice has (recently?) appeared on Netflix. Tempting, except, am I just going to constantly think, "This would go so much better with a competent Lantern on the team"?
I know right? That's actually exactly why I haven't watched Young Justice proper. I was stuck at my parents house and saw it on netflix (I don't generally watch tv) and got kinda excited but then it hit me. Orange Lantern isn't on this show.

Seriously, Cheshire and Sportsmaster as credible threats?
Oh and lets not forget when they had to do the "Puff up the normal" thing when Canary somehow managed to knock around and embarrass Kon because "She's so skilled" Her blows would bounce right off of him like steel and she's be lucky if she wasn't just breaking her own bones. Bullets bounce off of Kon...what the hell do you think human hands and feet would do?

As an actual Martial artist, I found that terribly offensive. But as 99.99999999% of writers, comic or otherwise, have never been in a real fight in their lives...I just have to live with it.

Jade was a threat, to Nabu
Incorrect. The gun firing raw chaos at Nabu's head was a threat to him.

You never did go look for Supergirl
Maybe he remembers that time Supergirl nearly beat Kon to death?

Oh sweet hammering Thor, not the generic Hulk rip off. ANYTHING but the generic Hulk rip off.

I wonder if Nightwing will show up as well
Dick Grayson has not yet grown into that sweet, perfect ass.

Or wanting to find pink K
Oh yeah...that one. >.>...Kon getting exposed to Pink K around Paul....mmmmm....Because fuck you M'gann.

the Christians that are going to complain will complain about using God's name in vain
American christians are something of incredibly whiny, shrieking martyrs who can never understand that their stupid mythological bullshit is only important to them yes.

Humorously, I've never met one who actually USED their god's name even once. Plus, last I knew, and I could be wrong, but "God" is an english translation of a proto-germanic word to describe Odin.
 
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Because i don't see Saturnus wasting time with little sister blaze when there is a reincarnated First of the fallen he can probably capture to get an even bigger power up and stronger access to the other fiefdoms of hell.

"Excuse me! The Twins work for the First and I killed him."

"Did you? Oh. Alright, but Satanus is still the one who's making sure the First stays dead.
If what Simpson says is the truth, Satanus already has the First. He just isn't stupid enough to break Rule 22.
 
Dick Grayson has not yet grown into that sweet, perfect ass.
Nightwing is one of the children of Rao, and a Kryptonian god. Superman told Dick about the legend of Flamebird and Nightwing (as mortals) when Dick had left Bruce and was trying to decide who to be, since he was no longer Robin. That's where Dick chose the name from.
 
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Oh sweet hammering Thor, not the generic Hulk rip off. ANYTHING but the generic Hulk rip off.
I don't think Doomsday needs to be used like a facepuncher. The heroes get Superman and lanterns while the bad guys get Darkseid and endless mooks, so why not give a neutral force like the Genomorphs a tool named Doomsday. They could mold it into the construction-focused role Superman never settled for. Clearly the Genomorphs aren't going to get magic. So what if the rest of the planet sees him as a time bomb? We already do that with every nuclear weapon. Batman does that with every metahuman.

Using him as a bargaining chip for the Genomorphs to build their own country and eventually their own planet sounds like a solid step to making this into a sci-fi story.
 
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They don't even know their gods name. The tetragrammaton used in place of it is a smartarse response to the question "Are you God?" where the smartarse never actually answered that question. My headcanon is that it's just a jumped up arrogant trickster personification without any redeeming features.

At least Lathander told us his name.
 
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My mother watches this show, I can't remember what it's called, It's got two brothers that are so emotionally incestual that it's actually kind of nauesiating. (and never ending yaoi fuel) But when my dad was in both of his two long chemical comas (heart surgery and broken neck if you're curious) I had to watch a LOT of this show with her while I was looking after her. It was almost interesting (though woefully without a budget) at first. But the second angels showed up I wanted to scream. Then Lucifer literally walked his way through just about EVERY other pantheon and I think the brothers killed Zeus or something. Ugh.
Supernatural, which is pretty excellently encompassed by the following image:
 
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