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I'm pretty sure it's been said that cold guns are infinitely superior to Freeze Rays, like...Cold Guns are incredibly bullshit to the rest of the universe.

From what I understand, it's something like:

Freeze rays are a sort of non-lethal option with a lot of drawbacks that might end up lethal anyway.

Cold guns are an exotic defense bypassing weapon that's pretty much guaranteed to take off a limb at the minimum if it makes contact.
 
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I don't get it. I mean I know the arc you're talking about, but I don't get it.
Within this fandom there is the long running joke where people create an additional metanarrative where the story we are reading is merely one person's (Zoat's) playthrough.

Within that narrative there are people who talk about exploits or glitches, or game breaking, or DLCs...

Then you come along, talking about the troubles you've had modding a game with Orange Lantern in it, and everyone assumes you're just engaging in the meta level story where With This Ring is just a game, except it turns out you were being serious. It's life imitating art imitating a joke based on the art that took on a life if it's own.

A story shaped reality. Queen of Fables would be pleased.
 
From what we've seen of it in YJ, there isn't much "useless" mass there. Most of its volume is either active machinery, inactive machinery, or rooms which exist for a reason but aren't actively doing anything. But even rooms that aren't doing something still produce some amount of heat - at minimum, from door control circuitry. Probably also some sort of internal monitoring, standby atmospheric regulation, etc. Inactive machinery probably still produces a little heat unless it is completely de-powered.

So, it probably doesn't add up to a lot. But lets look at the sun:
The sun has a volume of 1.41*10^27 square meters. It outputs 3.828*10^26 watts, probably ignoring the small fraction of energy released as neutrinos. Thus, it produces about 0.27 watts per square meter. And its rather hot[citation needed]. For comparison, the power density of the human body is several thousand times larger, depending on what source you use.

For a literal war world, designed to be a self-sustaining, self-repairing monstrosity, patrolled by countless security drones, fielding weaponry capable of glassing a planet, constantly manufacturing replacement parts and ammunition, and sporting engines capable of moving the damned thing, it probably produces more than 0.27 watts per meter.


I suppose I can go further. According to the... uh... Stefan-Boltzmann law, you can calculate the power radiated from a object at a given temperature, and thus also the maximum energy produced without increasing the temperature. Lets pretend it's a perfect black body, aka emissivity of 1. I don't actually know how large warworld is... lets say 1/2 the diameter of the moon, about 1700km. So, a surface area of 9*10^6 or so, round it to 10^7. A comfortable but warm temperature (400k, bit above room temp), and we get 1.45*10^10 watts. Volume would be 2.57*10^9, so, about 0.18 watts per square meter. That figure would be even lower for many kinds of metal, which can have emissivities lower than 0.1 in some cases.
You used the wrong value for the heat flux, the 1.41 x 10^27 is the volume of the sun, the surface area of the sun is 6.09 x 10 ^18, making the heat flux of about 62.86 MW/m^2. While I've had bloopers like this before, you probably should have noticed something wrong when the perpetually exploding nuclear inferno put out less energy per surface area than a bowl of lukewarm soup.

EDIT: And I'm seriously wondering what species you are if you think that 400K is a comfortable temperature. That works out to 127 degrees Celsius, so at that temperature you would literally be cooked as the blood boiled out of your veins.
 
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You used the wrong value for the heat flux, the 1.41 x 10^27 is the volume of the sun, the surface area of the sun is 6.09 x 10 ^18, making the heat flux of about 62.86 MW/m^2. While I've had bloopers like this before, you probably should have noticed something wrong when the perpetually exploding nuclear inferno put out less energy per surface area than a bowl of lukewarm soup.
Whoops, meant to say 0.27 watts per cubic meter. Square vs cubic always trips me up. Every time I said "square" in that sentence, I meant to say "cubic".

EDIT: And I'm seriously wondering what species you are if you think that 400K is a comfortable temperature. That works out to 127 degrees Celsius, so at that temperature you would literally be cooked as the blood boiled out of your veins.

Brain: "Lets see, people lived in warworld, comfortably, so it must be near room temperature, which is 300k ish I think. But room temperature is like, 60f or something isn't it? That's kinda cold, and we should give it some leeway anyway... fuck it, just increase it by 1/3rd it'll probably end up at like 90 c... or f, something like that."
 
Collegiality (part 19)
24th August
06:23 GMT


"Need to recharge already?" I cross the room, orange light strobing out as I scan the H'lvenian. "Or did the three of you have a… Falling out?"

Through the bone in places, but avoiding major veins and arteries…

"Oh?" He tilts his head up, burned out eye sockets staring blindly up at me. "You left me my ears and my tongue, is it too much to ask-."

"This shouldn't hurt."

"Who are-?"

Filaments of orange light connect me to the nails and the wounds surrounding them… And are repulsed. I try again a little more forcefully-.

"What are you trying to do?"

"I'm trying to heal you."

"With orange light? Even if that were possible-"

"I assure you, it is."

"-I'm afraid my status makes that quite impossible."

"Yes, you're an Indigo Lantern." I take my purple healing ray out of one of my armour's storage compartments. "Or Indigo Tribe, if you prefer. Nok."

"Ah. Yes, Nok. I'm sorry, I seem to be a little behind events."

"How well do you handle pain?"

"I don't feel pain at all. The Berrith have been really quite frustrated."

"Then this won't hurt." I take a lump of iron out of subspace and form it into tongs, then use a construct to grasp the first nail. "I'm going to pull out the nails and then heal the wounds."

"Please listen to me. I appreciate the effort, but that won't work."

I yank, then use a brief burst from the heal ray to repair the damage. Another seventeen to go. I stick a construct platform under his feet to take the weight off his injuries.

"Oh. Thank you."

"I'm sorry, but it won't restore your eyes. Why can't I do that?"

"My Penitent was consumed by avarice. If something went wrong, we wanted to be sure that he wouldn't be able to use it against me. Is he-?"

"Mekk? I overheard them saying that he was killed and eaten. Sorry." More nails come out, and he starts to look a little more like an intact person. "Your ring?"

"Destroyed, once they realised that they couldn't turn it orange or use it without feeling compassion."

"Can you contact the rest of your tribe? And do you have strong feelings against cybernetics? We don't have long until the three come here."

"I'm… I'm sorry, but I shouldn't say. And I don't have any problem with cybernetics, it's simply-"

I ring-forge a simple sensory band with a H'lvenian wireless interlink, then wrap it around his head.

"-that I'm more of a biotechagagagaggh." His head twitches back and forth as the interface connects to his visual cortex. "Uh." His hands free, he reaches up to touch it. "Ah, good choice. I'll change it out once I get somewhere safe." He jumps lightly from my construct platform onto the floor. "Situation?"

I look through Ranx's superstructure at the tangles of colour. "Berrith massing for an attack…" And if that bundle of colour isn't a Lantern I'm giving up my rings. "We're on Ranx. Lanterns Gardner and Ch'p are waiting out of Ranx's effective range."

"And you're freeing me because..?"

"Because you're small and furry, like my ancestors' children were. And because no one part of the whole is whole by itself." I turn towards the staff. "So am I in for a harder fight than I think I am? Is that staff actually helping-?"

"Yes. It was." He raises his right paw-. His right hand, his right hand, and lays it on the staff. "Tell Ch'p that Ub'x says 'hello'."

"Don't be so pessimis-." Indigo light flares as he vanishes. I stare for a moment. "You treacherous little Weasel Beav-!""

The floor around me explodes with orange light
! My construct armour abrades and the gravity nullifier construct collapses, then gravity returns with a vengeance and I'm pulled through the floor, pieces of Ranx's interior slamming off the remains of my construct armour until it gives way before being deflected by my armour's kinetic barrier! I shove, orange light blasting the area around me clear and bringing the gravity-.

"Raaagh!"

A Berrith Construct Lantern lunges through the debris, grabbing onto my armour and biting it! The teeth crunch through even as I draw the Sword of the Fallen and stab it through her forehead, causing her to dissolve into orange mist. Of course; I find the idea loathsome, Ragnar's people don't do slavery and Morrow was dying anyway. Why would I assume that a race of cannibals would feel the same way?

And then I hit the floor hard, environmental shield shuddering as it tries to reduce the damage. I create a bubble shield around me as I look around. Some sort of arena, inside Ranx. And three brightly glowing Berrith on the other side from me and a whole crowd in the stands.

Oh, that's how they're doing i-!

The three of them move as one, colossal beams of orange energy flying from their rings, merging into one and cannoning towards me. I dodge, and the beam dodges with me. I try to form a construct railgun and it melts, completely unable to remain coherent as it's torn apart from the intensity of their output. Brute force and ignorance; this is exactly why I didn't want to actually fight Larfleeze.

I bring my hands together, pulling at the desires for freedom and conquest in the beam. My rings glow as the beam weakens, but it hits my shield with incredible force anyway. I'm knocked back, the beam boring through the bubble and smashing into my newly recreated construct armour. Raw power fight, not something I've optimised for.

So don't.

The Berrith Alphas aren't anything special, not as far as the orange light is concerned. But they accept each other as equals and everyone else as followers, everyone desiring the same thing. Surprisingly communitarian. And since there's no real conflict between them, they aren't going crazy. Pack mentality at its finest. Ch'p mentioned that when he destroyed a ship attacking their original homeworld, the Berrith who saw it accepted his leadership immediately and without reservation. Of course, this particular arrangement is rather distinct.

I let the universe go, then move the bundle of orange that is me to just behind the bundle of orange that is them.

Railguns up and firing!
 
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I yank, then use a brief burst from the heal ray to repair the damage. Another seventeen to go. I stick a construct platform under his feet to take the weight off his injuries
Missing the dot.

Also Paul really dropped the ball trying to save Ub'x. Why not try to contain him first? Indigos mindrape people into compassion-bots.

I let the universe go, then move the bundle of orange that is me to just back the bundle of orange that is them.
What does this mean?
 
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Plot tumors aside, it's generally done to people who would fit the 'He Needed Killin'' clause in the law...
It's also apparently worse to experience than actually dying given Black Hand committed suicided rather than become an Indigo Lantern again.
And he'd suffered both fates by that point so he kind of had a good viewpoint on which was worse.

And I personally consider altering someone's personality worse than killing them.
 
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Thank you, corrected.
Also Paul really dropped the ball trying to save Ub'x. Why not try to contain him first? Indigos mindrape people into compassion-bots.
Neither the SI nor you know that is true of this setting.
What does this mean?
That I used the wrong word.
It's also apparently worse than actually dying given Black Hand committed suicide rather than become an Indigo Lantern again.
He's undead so I'm not sure that it's the same for him.
 
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It's also apparently worse to experience than actually dying given Black Hand committed suicided rather than become an Indigo Lantern again.
And he'd suffered both fates by that point so he kind of had a good viewpoint on which was worse.

And I personally consider altering someone's personality worse than killing them.

I mean, I generally agree with you, but Black Hand is explicitly a necrophiliac and the only person aside from Nekron himself who genuinely wanted to achieve Nekron's goal of killing everything. His perspective is that death is better than even a normal life, so he isn't exactly the best example of how horrific indigo-brainwashing is since he was definitely not even remotely close to the normal psychology of just about any other living thing in the multiverse.
 
Thank you, corrected.

Neither the SI not you know that is true of this setting.

That I used the wrong word.

He's undead so I'm not sure that it's the same for him.
Well, I think he was alive while he was an Indigo Lantern.

Admittedly he might have known he'd come back as a zombie if he died again but that seems like an unsafe bet to me. Although I don't share Black Hand's screwed-up perspective.
 
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ok so it looks like they had a possible recruit draw an orange ring, and then they just sort of went with it. I suspect that the braxian orange lantern wanted to redeem his people. then other alphas drew rings somehow and shit went sideways rapidly.
 
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