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Cold guns guys. Not freeze rays.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Ranx shows an interesting degree of forbearance...which I guess makes sense for a mostly-neutral host.
impeller systems stabilise it
Sound echoes suggest
ready but not aimed
less skilled than
This isn't necessarily wrong, but you probably meant "breathe out"?
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so abin sur planning a coup then? plus evil guardians wasnt the only reason he did it IIRC
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When the ophidian was merged, they knew where the indigo tribe had been a few million or so years ago. Not completely sure on the number. That implies they predate abin sur.
I suppose we'll find out in a bit, but I wonder if the indigo tribe's rings are still mind-control rings in this continuity?
I suppose we'll find out in a bit, but I wonder if the indigo tribe's rings are still mind-control rings in this continuity?
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To be fair, they were about to suffer a catastrophic containment breach due to the reach as a unit/ an entire fleet accidentally committing suicide by attempting (and failing) to rob larfleeze in the origional pre-Ol insertion timeline (a.k the apocalypse kadabra is terrified of), if I remember correctly, and the guardians being too obsessed with being lawful-stupid over a peace treaty the Reach had already broken within a year of signing to intervene directly?
That's the most-likely scenario I'm projecting from what I know about the woz- they went in fat, dumb and happy assuming they're just be dealing with another, extra stupid greenie,pointedly ignoring the frenzied,panicked screaming from their researchers...
As a memory check, what is Rhanx's core greviance with the GLC?
"Just" being forcibly decrewed and shoved into a no-fly zone alone (knowing the guardians, literally for eternity), or did things escalate even more?
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I think there was also a giant city ship equivalent of being hit by a bowel disruptor.
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Thank you, corrected.
That hasn't happened yet.
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Electro-magnetic pulses are not usually a sensory technique, and are anything but passive. Did you mean "EMF scan?" That's the ghostbusters thing and what's usually used to detect active current in wires and the like. And it is passive.
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Orange light by the dozens rings.
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Yeah, I somewhat expected that DC wouldn't have ships that take heat dissipation into account. A brief look at the YJ wiki says that the War World has a laser capable of destroying the Earth in seconds. Even if it just means the surface of the Earth, that's a ludicrous amount of heat to shunt away from the laser and away from the ship.
Nope, freeze rays. Ice guns are guns that coat the target in ice, freeze rays drop the target's temperature directly, and cold guns are Snart's blend of the two. Freeze rays are the relevant type here.
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Something the size of war world can manage heat dissipation across its own mass. It would be large enough to support an atmosphere, I think, which could absorb a LOT of heat.
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But the thing about war world, is it's not just some machinery around a core of inert mass. The entire volume is filled with an even distribution of heat-producing machinery.
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No, I did. The idea is that you would watch the orange filaments that would come off of him. Obviously easier to see then a story OL's filament. I managed to get plenty of fair frames for balanced play...UNLESS the A.I was controlling him. I have NO idea why but...EVERYTHING would come out as fast as his Jab. Even during a mirror test. A.I OL would just blitz right over the controlled tester. Granted, I only had a few actual moves programed, and watching his rail gun go off faster than a damn machine gun was funny....at first. *sigh* That was like four months of work.
Then my computer crashed...and everything was gone. I don't even remotely know what happened.
Don't even get me started on the god damn teleport glitch or his throw spam. Everything should have worked....it just...didn't.
I don't get it. I mean I know the arc you're talking about, but I don't get it.
>.> Was just pointing out that OL uses Cold guns. He even gushed all over their superiority to Freeze rays waaaaaaaay back when to Zatanna.
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Eh, not really? I mean, the whole thing's a machine, but, consider this: your car is a machine, but it doesn't uniformly produce heat. Furthermore, it's strongly implied that War World has internal power; it doesn't draw in fuel in a particular form (though likely, like most planets, it ultimately benefits from its massive surface area to harvest starlight from whatever system it's in). While I don't deny that it will produce a lot of heat, that heat won't be entirely uniform, and it DOES have a massive surface area and tons and tons of atmosphere in and around itself to circulate to distribute and even aid in radiating it.
Not that I really expect this was thought of in detail by the writers, who just wanted a planet-scale super-spaceship.
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Was there some sort of internal cool down not tied to animation length that defaults to the length of a jab?
I'm fairly sure he primarily uses freeze rays, because he doesn't care about the ice. Cold guns are superior to freeze rays as firefighting equipment, specifically because they don't kill what you're pointing at. This is what he was talking to Zatanna about. The SI does generally want to kill what he's pointing at.
The War World does have a huge surface area, but like I mentioned in my original post surface area doesn't increase as fast as volume. Even with an atmosphere, which it doesn't have enough mass to support, the War World has significantly less surface area to radiate heat away compared to its volume than normal sized ships. It's also a sphere, the worst shape for radiating heat.
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I have no idea. Again, I'm barely a beginner. What made no sense is that in the mirror match, A.I OL would be at warp speed, but the Controlled OL would not be. Same code doing two difference things at the same time. The animation frames were fine....just sped up for no reason that I could see. I don't even think you could push a button that fast.
But the narration always says Cold gun construct. I'm fairly certain of that.
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I'm pretty sure it's been said that cold guns are infinitely superior to Freeze Rays, like...Cold Guns are incredibly bullshit to the rest of the universe.
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Okay...what is a meow rating and why don't I have that button?
Also, this video is no longer available. If that's a thing to be concerned about.
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Thank you, corrected.
Since I can't remember what it used to lead to, no. But thank you for noticing.
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I'm going to assume it was Speedy's entrance to tell them about the Nano-fog mission. Though I have a weird memory of when Canary and GA confronted the strung out looking Speedy on the rooftops as well.
I'm bored and have nothing to read. So...rereading some arcs.
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You have to pledge money to SV in order to get the Meow rating.
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From what we've seen of it in YJ, there isn't much "useless" mass there. Most of its volume is either active machinery, inactive machinery, or rooms which exist for a reason but aren't actively doing anything. But even rooms that aren't doing something still produce some amount of heat - at minimum, from door control circuitry. Probably also some sort of internal monitoring, standby atmospheric regulation, etc. Inactive machinery probably still produces a little heat unless it is completely de-powered.
So, it probably doesn't add up to a lot. But lets look at the sun:
The sun has a volume of 1.41*10^27 square meters. It outputs 3.828*10^26 watts, probably ignoring the small fraction of energy released as neutrinos. Thus, it produces about 0.27 watts per square meter. And its rather hot[citation needed]. For comparison, the power density of the human body is several thousand times larger, depending on what source you use.
For a literal war world, designed to be a self-sustaining, self-repairing monstrosity, patrolled by countless security drones, fielding weaponry capable of glassing a planet, constantly manufacturing replacement parts and ammunition, and sporting engines capable of moving the damned thing, it probably produces more than 0.27 watts per meter.
I suppose I can go further. According to the... uh... Stefan-Boltzmann law, you can calculate the power radiated from a object at a given temperature, and thus also the maximum energy produced without increasing the temperature. Lets pretend it's a perfect black body, aka emissivity of 1. I don't actually know how large warworld is... lets say 1/2 the diameter of the moon, about 1700km. So, a surface area of 9*10^6 or so, round it to 10^7. A comfortable but warm temperature (400k, bit above room temp), and we get 1.45*10^10 watts. Volume would be 2.57*10^9, so, about 0.18 watts per square meter. That figure would be even lower for many kinds of metal, which can have emissivities lower than 0.1 in some cases.
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Ah. Thank you.
Rereading these old parts, I'm somewhat surprised that Paul hasn't considered Kon for Lanternship more seriously. Kon wants to be more on Superman's level? A power ring would fix that up nicely.
Also, kicking around an Anti-Green Paul omake idea in my head. But...not sure what tense to use. Zoat obviously goes first person, but...it feels really awkward to do that. Thoughts fellow ring watchers?
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3rd person seems to make the most sense. Alternatively, 3rd person from the perspective of people affected by Anti-Green?
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