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Renegade has had lots of development, and the increase of lies is part of that. He is getting more and more lost and confused. This is intentional.
Personally, the anti-disability button idea only somewhat works, and there are some disabilities that don't work like that. Think Bashir, and how he felt that his parents killed the person he used to be who had an undefined developmental disorder. Some disabilities are very much about the kind of person you are. Some wouldn't even be a problem if everyone had them. *Shrug*
It seems that his vision is that the darkstars would be a group that would be loosely affiliated with, or be the broader organization of whic hthere would be an 'orange lantern department' or a lantern department with subsections.
 
...stem cell research never slaughtered infants to get research material. That's literally impossible. You can't get stem cells from infants by killing them.

Yes, apparently I forgot to add a word in there. Embryonic stem cell research source of research material is at a high proportion, from slaughtered babies. So, yes they do.

As another atheist I will tell you that...I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. That's not even remotely how it works.

See above.

Source: journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2001/02/jdsc1-0102.html
 
Because heat is invisible and thus blue beam of heat are as believable as red ones?
Actually a beam of intense heat would be visible as either a line of intense heat shimmer, or as white flickering line as the air in the beam is ionized into plasma. The latter is what a strong enough infrared laser looks like as I recall, and that's as close to a "heat ray" as you'll get in real life.

I think it's a bit of a lost opportunity, actually. If you aren't going to just use the classic red beam, then a line of heat shimmer would be instantly recognizable as "heat" to people, easy to special-effect, and cool looking.
 
Actually a beam of intense heat would be visible as either a line of intense heat shimmer, or as white flickering line as the air in the beam is ionized into plasma. The latter is what a strong enough infrared laser looks like as I recall, and that's as close to a "heat ray" as you'll get in real life.

I think it's a bit of a lost opportunity, actually. If you aren't going to just use the classic red beam, then a line of heat shimmer would be instantly recognizable as "heat" to people, easy to special-effect, and cool looking.

Problem is, they did that in Smallville, so it would no longer be "original".
 
Yes, apparently I forgot to add a word in there. Embryonic stem cell research source of research material is at a high proportion, from slaughtered babies. So, yes they do.



See above.

Source: journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2001/02/jdsc1-0102.html


Are you one of those nutards that thinks women are sining whenever they 'fail' to get pregnant during their periods?

At what point an embryo becomes a 'person' is still hotly debated to this day, some retards go with 'at conception', some claim its when the brain is formed, others go at birth and others go with months after birth.

We need to know at what point you think an embryo gains personhood to properly debate you, and to know if there is a point in even debating you.


Edit: Then again this is a huge derail... Anyone has a link to the dumpster fire thread we are meant to use whenever something like this happens?
 
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Probably "three involved in", given it's OL speaking? Not entirely sure on how I'm parsing that.
third or fourth
Either "his" or "her", can't tell which. Unless you're doing something very strange with the pronouns, in which case I'd like you to telegraph that fact a bit more.
Thank you, corrected.
So if I'm following that correctly, England (1) is a subset of Britain, which is a governmental unit; and (2) is located on Great Britain, which is a landmass. Yes?
More or less.
Because heat is invisible and thus blue beam of heat are as believable as red ones?
Invisible is fine. Superman Animated did it like that half the time. And if I remember correctly, New Adventures often used the red lines as a way of showing the audience where Superman was heat-visioning, with the beam itself being treated as invisible by the other characters.

Personally, I tend to assume that Kryptonians fire infrared lasers from their eyes, and the red we see is small amounts of that either burning particles in the air or dropping in frequency to show light from the red end of the spectrum. But why ever it started, red has been the heat vision colour for a very long time and is the heat vision colour.
 
Personally, I tend to assume that Kryptonians fire infrared lasers from their eyes, and the red we see is small amounts of that either burning particles in the air or dropping in frequency to show light from the red end of the spectrum. But why ever it started, red has been the heat vision colour for a very long time and is the heat vision colour.
And the "heat ray" color in general. Martian heat ray. In all sorts of settings, when someone wants to portray a heat ray they usually make it red. Probably in analogy with fire and red-hot metal.
 
But for me, with my ADHD, or my brand of it, it makes it so so damn hard for me to sit down and LEARN it. When I was on Focalin CR I was blitzing through a Python MOOC it wasn't even funny. But then I hit a wall--loss of perscription and Python's shitty shitty refrence organization so I couldn't teach myself more.
Funny, I historically found Python's documentation to be among the better of what I'd used. Maybe it's gotten worse over time, or maybe its organization just happens to work well for my particular style. (For me, organization is less important than searchability; I don't care WHERE it is as long as I can find it on demand.)

Sure it's not comorbidity with autisim?
In my own case, I'm pretty sure it isn't. It IS a developmental delay of sorts, and autism's symptoms are marked by developmental delays, but it's caused by a different root. I don't have the other textbook markers of autism.

My son has more of the markers, but apparently not enough for a diagnosis. I've asked his psychiatrist about this in his case a couple times and he reassures me that it isn't.

Oh god yes I remember those feels. There are two solutions I ran into, reading a shitton of novels, and actually taking a class. I was going into massage therapy and there was a class on, well, deportment and how to deal with things if a client goes emotional vomit on you. Spelling out "This is how you behave because of X" was amazeballs, my manners improved noticeably and consistantly after one damn day.
My son is still too young for that to work. We tried it and all that happened was that he started using it as an excuse for everything instead of actually changing his behavior. He's only 10; I assume it'll be more effective in ~3 years.

Are you one of those nutards that thinks women are sining whenever they 'fail' to get pregnant during their periods?
Oi, don't get personal, that's crossing the line. You're acting just as knee-jerk and opinionated about it as the argument you're criticizing.

At what point an embryo becomes a 'person' is still hotly debated to this day, some retards go with 'at conception', some claim its when the brain is formed, others go at birth and others go with months after birth.

We need to know at what point you think an embryo gains personhood to properly debate you, and to know if there is a point in even debating you.
Personhood has nothing to do with it. Definitionally, an embryo is Homo sapiens sapiens and is a living being. Whether or not the embryo is a person doesn't change that it IS a baby. So from a strict definitional statement, it is a true statement that stem cells are collected from aborted humans. You can argue the morality and ethics of the act until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't change the fundamental validity of the claim.
 


Its woefully incapable of being a 'living being' on its own so i strongly dispute that assessment. Thus defining WHEN the parasite that grows inside a womans body becomes a living being with a right to life is extremely important. A fertilized bird egg has more of a right of being called a living being than the embryo being gestated inside any mammal.

EDIT: Still waiting for that link because don't think most people appreciate this derail.
 
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Happy to explain. The full name of my country is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island. On a map 'Great Britain' is the island on the right and 'Northern Ireland' is the bit on top of the island on the left. The full name is usually abbreviated to 'Britain', which is a bit less of a mouth full. Britain is (for most purposes) the name of the country. England is one of its constituent... Well, it's sort of a country as well, except it isn't. Same with Wales and Scotland, except that they get national assemblies/parliaments and England doesn't. Wales is the knob on the left of the island of Great Britain and Scotland is the top bit, England being the rest. It's called Great Britain not because it's wonderful but because it is bigger than the other island in the area.
So if I'm following that correctly, England (1) is a subset of Britain, which is a governmental unit; and (2) is located on Great Britain, which is a landmass. Yes?
Here it is in video format:
 
Warning: Keep This Thread On Topic and Off the Abortion Debate
this is not an abortion debate thread The Derail ends now. @Narutosramen, looking at you in particular. No specific warnings to hand out, but consider this a general line in the sand.

Talking about stem cell research and such within the context of With This Ring is fine. But if the thread turns into the Baby War to end all Baby Wars, then infractions will be handed out.
 
Renegade has had lots of development, and the increase of lies is part of that. He is getting more and more lost and confused. This is intentional.
Yes; he's been all about going for what is advantageous or amusing right now, and not worrying about the consequences. But the consequences have begun catching up with him for a while now; more, he's actually realizing that the consequences are catching up with him. And that he's put himself in a bad position in all sorts of ways.
 
It's called Great Britain not because it's wonderful but because it is bigger than the other island in the area.

also it contrasts lesser Britain or, if you prefer, Brittany. this is most likely connected to the 4th century immigration of Britons from cornwall and wales. this led to one one of them becoming known as "king of the britons"
 
Going by history I'm rather worried about how any real world government would implement such a mandatory genetic treatment plan.

In the context of this story, I wouldn't trust an Earth government in a DC or Marvel setting for one moment with something like that. They'd either botch it horribly or use it for some kind of crazed super soldier program. Or a horribly botched super soldier program.
I'd say the latter is more likely. They'd probably horribly botch something as simple as 'inject volunteer pregnant women with the Danner Formula.'

I have just seen the DC television Dominators.

Why? Why would you do that?

Also, why is Supergirl's heat vision blue?
Because they threw away the red with Superman's trunks.
 
When it comes to going all in on genetic screening and the like, of correcting genetic flaws, most people are fucking idiots.

If you can safely and reliably make it so that no one else ever has to be born with a flaw that, say, confines them to a wheelchair in early childhood? That's a good thing. Get things to the point that things like blindness or deafness are the result of accidents rather than something people can be born with? Also good.

When genetic engineering becomes a mature tech, it should be flat out mandatory.

Should point out that this is likely to lead to a number of issues. I imagine a lot of people would not be cool with the government forcing that down people throats.

then we run into the Seed Gundam issue
some moron won't like it and then it became racist issue all over again

While over simplified this is actually relevent to the genetic engineering issue. Mainly that it may lead to issues where the people who instead of getting GE to remove possible genetic issues get improved far beyond the norm. This issue is brought up in Gattaca where a major theme is how unmodifed people are looked down upon by those 'gifted' with GE or those looking for the best possible candidates for a job to the point that possible employers would strictly focus on applicants genetics. A doctor at the beginning of the film outright talks a couple out of any 'flaws' no matter how minor it would be reasoning that as parents they should want the best possible future for their child.

That then runs into the issue of where things should end or how much control officials should have over the genetic destiny of others people children. Someone could suggest doing something like giving everyone super human enhancements despite how the parents would feel. Problems start when people would likely be against something like that.

Remember hearing about OL mentioning that if he could he would give every mother the danner formula which was worrying even if he didn't mean for it to sound like it did. OL and the thread tend to talk about transhumanism from time to time while some readers complain about OL not going far enough and not accepting some solely because he wasn't comfortable with a lot of stuff yet strongly complain that he does this and practically calling him stupid for not getting them. Even if some people would be thrilled with having that many people would prefer 'vanilla' children. A lot of people would take offense to the idea that being 'vanilla' human is a bad thing.

So just making GE mandatory is likely to cause massive shit storms. So it might be best to stick to doing it to children that have a great chance of actually suffering from a disease or disability while having anything else optional and leave it at that.
 
Well, if you want to go with the idea that Superman's heat vision is actually eye lasers . . . Supergirl having blue beams would mean that her heat vision is stronger than Superman's.

And given the method Superman uses to shave, his heat vision probably is actually a kind of laser. It would have to be for him to be able to bounce it off a mirror the way he does.

It would also be significantly more dangerous to the eyes of people in her vicinity who aren't wearing safety goggles. People who are in close proximity to her and just look at her eye beams could be at risk of temporarily losing the ability to see the color green. (For up to 6 months.)

I'd talk about direct exposure flat out blinding people . . . But that's just blue laser pointers. Heat vision would mean your eyes aren't there anymore.

That said . . . In this case, you could just say Superman has better control. Sometimes Superman's heat vision is invisible, which would make that heat vision even stronger if you're still treating it as a laser.

The lasers that aren't in the visible light spectrum beat visible light lasers.
 
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While over simplified this is actually relevent to the genetic engineering issue. Mainly that it may lead to issues where the people who instead of getting GE to remove possible genetic issues get improved far beyond the norm. This issue is brought up in Gattaca where a major theme is how unmodifed people are looked down upon by those 'gifted' with GE or those looking for the best possible candidates for a job to the point that possible employers would strictly focus on applicants genetics. A doctor at the beginning of the film outright talks a couple out of any 'flaws' no matter how minor it would be reasoning that as parents they should want the best possible future for their child.
There wasn't any genetic modification in Gattaca. What they did was genetic screening. The doctor who did it specifically said that the resulting child would 'still be you, just.. the best of you'. If both parents had a gene which caused a particular adverse condition children born to them would still have it. That's why the main character's girlfriend and the company tester's son could have defects. And the test they used just tested to see whether the individual was the result of screening or not, not whether they were at Human peak or not. Gattaca actually was about prejudgement, as none of the elite had genes not also found within the general population.

One of the doctors the company employed actually said that 'You can't surpass your potential. If you appear to do so that merely means that we failed to measure your potential properly'. Yes. Yes you did. It's a shame that no one actually heard what you were saying.

And I should point out that the main character actually had a serious heart defect and was endangering everyone's lives by becoming a shuttle pilot.
 
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