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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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mastigos said:
anyone else get the feeling that at least a good portion of that conversation was actually more testing and the multi-million year old was mentally saying the equivilents of "don't teach your grandfather how to suck eggs" and "I'm surprised you weren't rendered incapable of thinking that by the Orange Light"

I strongly doubt these guys haven't come up with a way to spoof orange active soul scan's.
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This is super arguable. Hinon at the very least wasn't aware of what enlightenment was, and indicated that it might be something unique to humans (and likely new gods). Ophidivision seems to be a direct result of enlightenment, and thus might be an ability that only select few beings can hope to achieve. Controllers might well be unaware of it. Also, I'm not sure if it's an active scan at all.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Now all I need to do is defeat Larfleeze. And how hard can that be?
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Depends on the version you're fighting really, though the best choice would probably be to start off with going full assassin mode, with the SotF and your tattoos/invisibility he should be very easy to kill even if he's extremely powerful, now if only you didn't have those silly scruples about killing the insane murderer.
 
GodKiller999 said:
Depends on the version you're fighting really, though the best choice would probably be to start off with going full assassin mode, with the SotF and your tattoos/invisibility he should be very easy to kill even if he's extremely powerful, now if only you didn't have those silly scruples about killing the insane murderer.
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As pointed out the insane murderer is insane meaning he isn't in his right mind to make decisions. If he was sane and still doing what he is doing it would be another matter.
 
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Yog said:
This is super arguable. Hinon at the very least wasn't aware of what enlightenment was, and indicated that it might be something unique to humans (and likely new gods). Ophidivision seems to be a direct result of enlightenment, and thus might be an ability that only select few beings can hope to achieve. Controllers might well be unaware of it. Also, I'm not sure if it's an active scan at all.
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Seeing desires/Ophidian's eyes is a property of the ring, not enlightenment. The SI showed this a few times before the Contingency episode. Grayven used the yellow ring's ability to see fear once. Enlightenment gave the SI the innate ability to see all nine emotional lights.
 
Having recently read some worm AU fanfic, I am now pondering the kind of effect dropping a power ring user of any color, assuming he could stay sane, into Earth Bet might have. Particularly on things like Contessa's plans or Dinah's probabilities.
 
Ganurath said:
So, anyone else think that the Guardians are going to be more opinionated on this matter once the OLC gets up and running properly?
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The reach is a galatic level threat, the OLC is a way to fight against said threat with out wasting resources needed to police the greater galaxy. Their not going to like it but it does make the universe a safer place to be.
 
Chaoswind said:
when Barda and Wonder Women where fighting Paul told them to stop and according to Scott and Barda also said "This is stupid" in god speech... But Paul didn't remember saying that.
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Can you help me find this by link or just by narrowing down in what chapter this happened? I have not had much luck in hunting.
 
Red Bovine said:
As pointed out the insane murderer is insane meaning he isn't in his right mind to make decisions. If he was sane and still doing what he is doing it would be another matter.
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So? He's been that way for so long that it's just who he is, you'd basically have to kill his self and replace it almost entirely for it to not be insane and what would that accomplish? At that point you could just a person wholesale and just call it a day with somehow similar results. I consider him being insane as being a moot point, same for people like the Joker, it's not like lots of not entirely sane people haven't been killed already, but for some reason we have to give a shit in his case cause he's over some imaginary line in the sand? Please.
 
Joebobjoe said:
Indeed, what could possibly go wrong. There's no way this can backfire. You just need to follow the plan.

I think I missed a few.
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... from looking at TVTropes "Tempting Fate" page, and a couple of stand-up routines:

"I'll be right back!" "Nothing can stop us now!" "It's quiet... too quiet." "I'm two days from retirement." "I AM INVINCIBLE!" "Y'all watch this!" "Hold my beer."

And, for Zoat's amusement, "This'll be the best Christmas Walford's ever had!"

Thanks
Luc "Yes, It's A Bad Idea, But It's A Good Bad Idea!" French
 
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Red Bovine said:
As pointed out the insane murderer is insane meaning he isn't in his right mind to make decisions. If he was sane and still doing what he is doing it would be another matter.
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Caligula was insane. He believed himself to be a literal God among men, and that delusion resulted in possibly thousands of workers being driven to death constructing monuments to his glory. Now, if you were a Roman citizen during his reign, would you be worrying about capturing Caligula alive so that he could be put through some kind of therapy that might not even work? Would you delay moving against him as his insanity continues to kill more innocent people? Or would you just kill the bastard and end it already?
 
Mr Zoat said:
With you as head of the Orange Lantern Corps-."

I shake my head. "Ah, no. I don't have the administrative skills for that. I can teach other Lanterns and I can fight, but the job requires abilities I don't have. I was planning to recruit someone for that as well."
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This probably helps with your legitimacy a lot, showing them this isn't simply a power grab or egomania from you.

Xavier Bronze said:
Caligula was insane. He believed himself to be a literal God among men, and that delusion resulted in possibly thousands of workers being driven to death constructing monuments to his glory. Now, if you were a Roman citizen during his reign, would you be worrying about capturing Caligula alive so that he could be put through some kind of therapy that might not even work? Would you delay moving against him as his insanity continues to kill more innocent people? Or would you just kill the bastard and end it already?
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Larfleeze isn't currently killing anyone AFAIK, (except for Psions who don't count :p ).
 
Ganurath said:
"Meh, I can take him."

Zoat hasn't read Worm, he's counting on us to provide those lines.
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Segev said:
Having recently read some worm AU fanfic, I am now pondering the kind of effect dropping a power ring user of any color, assuming he could stay sane, into Earth Bet might have. Particularly on things like Contessa's plans or Dinah's probabilities.
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Goddamnit, now I'm imagining Raylor with an orange ring. And I am well and truly wary of the potential fallout of such a scenario.
 
Fireball900 said:
Larfleeze isn't currently killing anyone AFAIK, (except for Psions who don't count :p ).
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But the Reach are. And Paul can't meaningfully fight the Reach until he takes down Larfleeze. I'm not saying killing him is moral. But it practically means that many, many people will be saved that would be gotten to too late otherwise. If there are a dozen innocents held captive inside the Death Star, which is blowing up a planetary population every month, it is impractical to try and rescue those dozen people before you blow up the station. Sometimes the good thing to do isn't always the best thing to do.

...Hang on, I'll just let Meryl Streep explain this one for me.

 
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Empiricist2 said:
Enlightenment gave the SI the innate ability to see all nine emotional lights.
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I actually have a theory that it's not the alignment that does this.

It's the Ophidian's heart that does it, because he sees in both the Ophidian's natural method of seeing as well as his own.

Evidence of this is the lack of it being mentioned by anyone else being enlightened.
 
Empiricist2 said:
Seeing desires/Ophidian's eyes is a property of the ring, not enlightenment. The SI showed this a few times before the Contingency episode. Grayven used the yellow ring's ability to see fear once. Enlightenment gave the SI the innate ability to see all nine emotional lights.
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How do you sense...death? Isn't that just the absence of life? Or is their some sort of..."essence of death" in the DC universe?

(If death is the absence of life, this gives me a lovely mental image of him just seeing death everywhere and getting more depressed than Batman even at his most DARKNESS! NO PARENTS! level of brooding).
 
Yubel said:
How do you sense...death? Isn't that just the absence of life? Or is their some sort of..."essence of death" in the DC universe?
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Black light is not "Death" like you might expect. It's...corrupted. Decay and the horror of death. Remember, the spectrum is EMOTIONAL, Death and life aren't an emotion. White light is life, but only because the beauty of life is the entire spectrum in harmony.

The Black Light of death is more about all of the negative aspects of reality without emotion. All the unfathomable ugliness and yes, death, that comes with it.
 
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