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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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aetherialDawn said:
Remember that the Corpse uses Compassion-purple energy to kill. It's not called 'indigo' but I took a look at some of the art, and... it sure looks like the Guardians have their assassins framing pacifist healers for murder.
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First of all, on the doylist level, the Corpse predates the Indigo Tribe by over a year, so the idea that the writers made the Corpse with the specific intention of setting up the existence of the Indigo Tribe seems unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.

Especially since Corpse members don't act like they are being affected by the light of compassion, which by its placement in the spectrum, has as much effect on people as orange does on the psyche of its users.

On the Watsonian level, the Indigo Tribe were made by Abin Sur as a secret anti-guardian weapon, so how exactly would the Guardians be framing people whose entire point is that the Guardians don't know they exist?
 
stsword said:
First of all, on the doylist level, the Corpse predates the Indigo Tribe by over a year, so the idea that the writers made the Corpse with the specific intention of setting up the existence of the Indigo Tribe seems unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.

Especially since Corpse members don't act like they are being affected by the light of compassion, which by its placement in the spectrum, has as much effect on people as orange does on the psyche of its users.

On the Watsonian level, the Indigo Tribe were made by Abin Sur as a secret anti-guardian weapon, so how exactly would the Guardians be framing people whose entire point is that the Guardians don't know they exist?
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Theoretically, they might be framing indigo without knowing there actually is an indigo to frame. "Hey, which light is nobody using? Let's pretend there's a corps using that color."

Which may in turn mean that Abin Sur was inspired to make an ACTUAL Indigo Tribe by Guardian dickery. After all, if the Guardians are actively creating rumors about an indigo corps, they're that much less likely to believe anything they hear about the Indigo Tribe.
 
Bailey Matutine said:
Theoretically, they might be framing indigo without knowing there actually is an indigo to frame. "Hey, which light is nobody using? Let's pretend there's a corps using that color."
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Except the Corpse doesn't even use rings, nor wear a uniform.

People who don't use rings just aren't a good frame up for a lantern corps.

Now if the Corpse used fake rings while being powered by their ingested disks, that would be one thing.

But someone with internal energy power suggest metahuman, aliens with the innate power to manipulate energy, or the alien equivalent of metahumans.

So people would be looking up species that can manipulate purple energy, not an indigo corps.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Without a greater purpose to work towards I'd get bored before long, and I can't use these things for things that bore me. It doesn't work.
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I wasn't sure if you meant to use "rings" here.

Geminii said:
In summary, a lot of industries are going to collapse or be severely reduced, because they've been relying on point-to-point transport being a significant barrier. There will be a lot of unemployment from a lot of sectors until people start working out how to make money under the new infrastructure; it won't just be BR employees. On top of that, there's going to be a lot more international tension between countries and governments who are now linked far more tightly than under air/sea/rail/road travel. Tricky to close your borders when teleportation is available to everyone. All your enemies (and all your allies) are now effectively sitting at the bottom of your garden. Isolationism is pretty much dead. Every protest about everything can now be held in your national capital outside your government buildings in front of all the media. All the world's problems, including those which had previously been ignored because they were 'too far away', are now on your doorstep.
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To summarize, the world becomes smaller. Businesses and technologies that civilization has taken for granted will become obsolete or marginalized. Citizens will be next-Gate neighbors with people they hate and people less fortunate than they are. End summary.

And after the novelty wears off, the average citizen will continue where they left off—ignoring people in need outside their personal sphere. When has anyone needed an excuse to ignore problems that either don't affect their lives or merely... make them feel uncomfortable?
 
Has Paul figured out why advance technology hasn't spread in use across earth?

Usually in comics there really isn't a good answer except to keep the world grounded and comparable to our own.

But in an SI case I'm curious if he ever wondered why the world looks so similar to ours despite having thousands of factors hat should have created a radically different society.
 
Mizu said:
can anything on Earth do what

Humans any longer.
Go figure using teleport gates instead of railways caused issues. Neat to see Paul handle it well regardless, though - I expect we'd face similar situations IRL with self-driving cars and other automated vehicle transport systems, but... somehow handling is unlikely to be quite as smooth.
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yeah, actually ...

Mr Zoat said:
We're already seeing it with Uber.
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err, what he said (Author-Ninja'd) :p

Geminii said:
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keep in mind, the Dolmen Gates are dial-able. If you want to be able to go from point A to points B, C, and D, then you need 3 gates at point A, each linked to one of the other locations.

I'm also unsure how size affects the cost/power requirements for a Gate. Is a big Gate more expensive in power or construction costs than a small Gate? If so then large, bulky shipments may still go by slower methods.
Nations are still going to want to have border control, so international gates for both people and cargoes are likely to congregate in certain locations, at which point congestion becomes an issue. If there's a limited number of gates going from say, China to the USA, then there could be a lot of competition for access.
 
Deliste said:
Where do you people live?

This is not specific to London, trains suck the donger everywhere but Japan, and there you're sucking the donger because you're packed in like sardines so you'll cop a crotch to the face sooner or later.
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Los Angeles. The rail system we have isn't that bad. The problem here is that they don't go enough places.

As for Japan, girls have been known to carry needles with them so they can jab anyone who tries to get grabby.
 
Deliste said:
Where do you people live?

This is not specific to London, trains suck the donger everywhere but Japan, and there you're sucking the donger because you're packed in like sardines so you'll cop a crotch to the face sooner or later.
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I don't know how bad it gets everywhere else, but when SEPTA went on its...tenth? strike in South Penn last year, public transportation—trains, buses, etc.—halted for a whole week, just before Election Day. Philadelphia was not amused.
 
query said:
Has Paul figured out why advance technology hasn't spread in use across earth?

Usually in comics there really isn't a good answer except to keep the world grounded and comparable to our own.

But in an SI case I'm curious if he ever wondered why the world looks so similar to ours despite having thousands of factors hat should have created a radically different society.
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For the same reason that technology barely changes in real life, money and ego. Real life technology is a couple centuries behind what it could be.
 
DS27 said:
For the same reason that technology barely changes in real life, money and ego. Real life technology is a couple centuries behind what it could be.
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And safety. Don't forget safety. We've seen plenty of examples of the problems technology can cause when it is if adopted faster than it can be managed -- the smog that used to choke London during the industrial revolution is an example -- and especially when it comes to medical technology the number of treatments that we've discovered do more long-term harm than good is staggering.

Running ahead full-bore with a new technology BEFORE doing proper long-term research on it is reckless.
 
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Pfft. We've got massive sustainability problems due to overpopulation anyway. The long term benefits to scientific progress your so-called "recklessly" pursued research projects afford certainly outweigh the costs in human collateral damage, when we've already got far, far more humans than we reasonably should in the first place :)

Sacrifice some lives now to ensure everyone has a higher quality of life later. Seems reasonable to me!
 
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EnygmaSoul said:
Pfft. We've got massive sustainability problems due to overpopulation anyway. The long term benefits of scientific progress your so-called "recklessly" pursued research projects afford certainly outweigh the costs in human collateral damage, when we've already got far, far more humans than we reasonably should in the first place :)
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I disagree that overpopulation is a problem so much as inadequate evenness in distribution of resources. But then again, you're Jamie Roberts' clone or something, so why am I trying to reason with you anyway? :V
 
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