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So I was looking up Green Lantern stuff.
I ran into this madness.

Thankfully it looks like it's in the future. Unfortunately I don't believe the Guardians remembered to retain enough mental agility to change their minds in response to external argument, so unless the Orange Lantern Corps manages to avert several interstellar wars... It may be coming, somewhere down the line.
On the plus side, the Guardians maintain their ritually-damaged cognition with a device on Maltus, so if the SI finds out about it he might be able to use it to return to them the capacity to feel shame, guilt, grief, and despair in response to their errors.

I think it is... more likely... that Zoat won't go that precise direction.
(Or perhaps the Orange Dawn is an attempt by the Orange Lanterns to try to assimilate the entire Guardian plague and halt its spread?)

It's all distant-future stuff anyway. There are more immediate galactic dooms - the Reach, Nekron, a failure to perfectly screen new Orange Lanterns...
And if we restrict our sphere to only Earth, we can add all sorts of fun stuff like the King of Tears, Apokalips, the Sheeda in force, the modernized Hell of Satanus, the Light getting the Star Conquerers back up to strength...
 
So I was looking up Green Lantern stuff.
I ran into this madness.

Thankfully it looks like it's in the future. Unfortunately I don't believe the Guardians remembered to retain enough mental agility to change their minds in response to external argument, so unless the Orange Lantern Corps manages to avert several interstellar wars... It may be coming, somewhere down the line.
On the plus side, the Guardians maintain their ritually-damaged cognition with a device on Maltus, so if the SI finds out about it he might be able to use it to return to them the capacity to feel shame, guilt, grief, and despair in response to their errors.

I think it is... more likely... that Zoat won't go that precise direction.
(Or perhaps the Orange Dawn is an attempt by the Orange Lanterns to try to assimilate the entire Guardian plague and halt its spread?)

It's all distant-future stuff anyway. There are more immediate galactic dooms - the Reach, Nekron, a failure to perfectly screen new Orange Lanterns...
And if we restrict our sphere to only Earth, we can add all sorts of fun stuff like the King of Tears, Apokalips, the Sheeda in force, the modernized Hell of Satanus, the Light getting the Star Conquerers back up to strength...
Why are you posting about plot points from the New 52? Zoat has repeatedly stated his distaste for it?
 
I personally suspect that galaxy line is the result of the writer not knowing the difference between 'galaxy' and 'solar system'.
Not to mention the fact writers only ever focus on the one galaxy and rarely the wider universe.

Guardians are so full of themselves having universe in their names when they really only have influence in one galaxy among much much more.
 
Seems like a good idea actually. Almost anyone getting an Orange Ring is a disaster waiting (briefly) to happen. Thus almost certain destruction is a decent screening process.
Surely there is a better selection process where the majority of applicants don't end up dead or worse. That's a terrible way to get people to join.
A single power ring + a lantern (that currently has Ophidian in it)? Quite a bit.

They might be able to create power rings, but they don't have access to the orange light. In fact, their mastery of the tech makes it even worse, because they know how to take full advantage of it.
Eh? I'm not sure I understand. I'm saying that they can make orange rings now, and simply choose not to, so giving them a ring won't matter. I'm not sure how they could use the orange light well enough to make rings, but not have access to it.

Also, the SI's lantern isn't in his subspace pocket. If the ring flies off somewhere because he dies, the Ophidian and her lantern don't move.
Personally I would assume 6 months/1 year of ringless training at whatever OLC headquarters ends up being and then another 6 months/1 year tag-along training with a veteran corpsman after the newbie gets a ring.
That seems a bit long, certainly too long for the first batch. At the earliest that would mean the first fully independent Lanterns would start in year 3. Looking it up, Marine Corps do a 3 month boot camp, and Lanterns don't need any physical training or really even aiming. I imagine it will be more like 1 month pre-ring, then 2-3 more under supervision depending on performance. Possibly longer, although I doubt the total process will last longer than 6 months.
They have made compromises - a near-absolute prohibition against killing (though they break it in secret,)
I wonder how the Greenies would react to a Reach ship that lined the hull with slaves. Any attack that might do anything to the ship would certainly kill at least a single slave.

It's like that one Spiderman comic where the guy ties a bunch of babies to himself then brags that Spiderman can't do anything to him without hurting an infant. But Greenies are forced not to kill by the programming in their rings, not just a moral code.
 
Why are you posting about plot points from the New 52? Zoat has repeatedly stated his distaste for it?
Oh, thank goodness.
That helps quite a lot.
I wonder how the Greenies would react to a Reach ship that lined the hull with slaves. Any attack that might do anything to the ship would certainly kill at least a single slave.

It's like that one Spiderman comic where the guy ties a bunch of babies to himself then brags that Spiderman can't do anything to him without hurting an infant. But Greenies are forced not to kill by the programming in their rings, not just a moral code.
Well, I imagine that the first and most important means of bypassing that is, "We all have Power Rings, allowing us to make precision constructs to disassemble your ship without harming anyone ourselves."
The rings don't let you kill, but Sinestro proved that they don't compel you to save anyone, either...
 
Oh, thank goodness.
That helps quite a lot.
I don't intend to do the 'the Guardians are evil and secretly always were' thing. Though far from perfect, the Guardians are essentially well intentioned and have managed to do a great deal of good. On the other hand, that scene where they travel to Zamaron and demand that the Star Sapphire Corps be dismantled is perfectly in character.
 
Last Supper (part 13)
3rd July
14:43 GMT


I stand on my newly built stage facing the relatively small crowd gathered to hear me speak. Quite a bit smaller than the number who gathered to watch me work, but I suppose that was the interesting bit.

"As you can see behind me, the Pitsea Waste Management Site… Or if we're a bit more honest with ourselves, the Pitsea Landfill Site… Is now clear not only of all waste material, but also of any toxic or poisonous chemicals that might have leached into the soil." A disgruntled looking Gull lands on the right edge of the stage and takes a look around. "Most of the site is going to be handled over to the RSPB for development as a bird sanctuary, and the rest will be used for housing."

I step aside from the podium for a moment, looking back at the piles of material which ring-sorting through the colossal piles of rubbish generated. Plenty of metal in rubbish, and recyclable plastic and any number of useful chemicals. It's just not efficient for them to be reclaimed at Earth's current level of technology. I've left them stored neatly by element and material and the site's employees are going to be occupying themselves selling it and transporting it to places that can use it. Recycling levels in London are… Okay, these days. Most of this mess is historical.

I return my attention to my audience. "The refined material will start being shipped out-" The ground rumbles as a large lorry drives past the stage. "-right now to its new homes. Now, I imagine a number of you are wondering why I'm doing this. Not exactly.. typical superhero work, is it?" I smile at a few faces I recognise from... Some of them from other parts of Boris' work program. A couple of others from the Dolmen Gate reveal. "One of the projects that I've been engaged in has been an attempt to increase the range of what can be done with technology Humans already possess. My friend Ted Kord is already mass producing arcanotechnological orbs which can control clouds. Most of the technology involved in that was taken from work done by Doctor Thomas Morrow… So we're only seventy years behind the times there."

"
I'll reiterate, for those of you who missed my last complaint about poor technology application regarding zeta tubes. We've had the technology to control hurricanes for seventy years, and it's only just now being applied to something that isn't a weapon."

"
But can anything on Earth do what I just did?" I shake my head. "Not just yet. But we're working on it. In the KordTech laboratories now is Earth's first nanotech disassembler. Its co-inventors are the nano-robotics expert Doctor Serling Roquette and cryogenicist and recovering theme criminal Leonard Snart. The current version could do what took me a couple of mornings in… About… Two months. Nothing like as fast, but controllable, reproducible and made entirely with Earth technology. That point cannot be made strongly enough. This is a world of technological wonders the likes of which.. just don't exist on other planets."

"
I didn't do this because I have some burning desire to work in waste disposal-." I cut myself off and half turn in the direction of the nearest group of orange-clad workers. "No offence, guys!" A couple of them look around, but they don't otherwise respond. I turn back to my audience. "I did it because I wanted to-" Take my mind off what I'm doing next week. "-demonstrate the capacity of super-advanced technology to change the world for the better.. in ways that directly and immediately affect people's quality of life for the better. It isn't all about… New ways to blow things up and… People in ridiculous costumes finding new ways to shoot at each other." I shift from my suit to one of my more garish armours. "And I know what I'm talking about on that last one."



No? No one?

I switch back to my suit.

"I mentioned in my last speech on this subject that Doctor Thaddeus Sivana's story made me the most angry. But it wasn't until I had the chance to see some of the things he's invented since then, and… Well, meet the man, that I discovered the full extent of humanity's loss. And that's why I'm announcing today that KordTech is opening a scholarship program for… Let's call them.. angry scientists. Had an idea of revolutionising a field of industry, but lackwits and fools-" I ham it up, clenching my fists and railing at the heavens. "-refuse to give you the time of day? We want to hear from you. We want to help you. Preferably before you feel the need to.. go on a rampage to.. prove how wrong they were to doubt you. You can't revolutionise anything from in prison."

I make a shrugging motion with both hands. "Alright, I'm done. Any questions?"

Several hands go up, but an angry-looking man with an RMT badge on pre-empts them. "Why do you hate the British railways?!"

"I used to go to work by Southern Rail. The management's incompetent and the employees think they belong to the National Graphical Association. The trains are a natural monopoly and the unions have taken full advantage, becoming so cocky that people are willing to use teleportation portals rather than put up with them any longer. We can replace a fifth of the network for less than the cost of High Speed Rail Two with a form of transport that's safer and quicker. So begone, all of them."

"You think it's okay to destroy workers' livelihoods?!"

"On the contrary, the Atlantean artificers who make the Dolmen Gates are extremely well paid. Next question." I point to a woman at random.

"Dominique Westlake, ITV London. Are you planning on clearing up any other landfill sites?"

"No. I did this to show that it can be done. I'm of the opinion that having superheroes clean up every social or economic problem is like a fit and healthy adult who still has someone to wipe his arse for him. I've only just been on this planet for a year, and already I've helped develop a technology that could do what I just did. You get one, you can do the rest yourself."

"So you're saying that you could?"

"Without a greater purpose to work towards I'd get bored before long, and I can't use these rings for things that bore me. It doesn't work. But no, I probably wouldn't be willing to even if I could do so reliably. Next."

"Nigel Smith, BBC. Isn't Doctor Sivana a wanted criminal?"

"Yes. We met under flag of truce at a family dinner and I'm a man of my word. If it makes you feel any better, he claims to be mustering resources to fight against future alien invasions because he doesn't think that superheroes offer enough of a challenge."

"That doesn't sound reassuring."

"I find it reassuring that the greatest scientist of the age isn't focusing on fighting other Humans any longer. Next!"



3rd July
15:08 GMT


I stroll into the Mayor's meeting room. "What did you think?"

"The press bit meandered around a bit. Usually best to just-" He makes an odd sort of pouncing motion with both hands. "-keep things focused."

"I'll bear that in mind in future. So, are we square?"

He nods. "Yah, yah. You've done your week, and I think we're all set for tomorrow. Oh, have you met-" He gestures to the uniformed man sitting a little way down the table. "-Bernard?"

I nod. "Commissioner. A pleasure."

He nods back. "The cordon won't be a problem, and we could do with an evacuation drill. I'm still a bit puzzled by your request to join the Met. Could you explain that?"

"I don't have arrest authority. I don't imagine for a moment that the Lich will actually yield, but best practice requires that I at least try to resolve the situation in a lawful and orderly manner. Or as close to it as possible. Obviously it'll be an on-paper thing and I'll resign as soon as the matter's resolved, but it would be a help."

He nods. "If you say so. I can swear you in as a Special Constable. It will be entirely above board, if a little.. odd. Obviously there's no way our regular police could confront a powerful sorcerer."

"Thank you, Commissioner. That's just what I need."
 
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"I mentioned in my last speech on this subject that Doctor Thaddeus Sivana's story made me the most angry. But it wasn't until I had the chance to see some of the things he's invented since then, and… Well, meet the man, that I discovered the full extent of humanity's loss. And that's why I'm announcing today that KordTech is opening a scholarship program for… Let's call them.. angry scientists. Had an idea of revolutionising a field of industry, but lackwits and fools-" I ham it up, clenching my fists and railing at the heavens. "-refuse to give you the time of day? We want to hear from you. We want to help you. Preferably before you feel the need to.. go on a rampage to.. prove how wrong they were to doubt you. You can't revolutionise anything from in prison."
It would be funny/sad if like dozens of said scientists showed up very quickly.
"Yes. We met under flag of truce at a family dinner and I'm a man of my word. If it makes you feel any better, he claims to be mustering resources to fight against future alien invasions because he doesn't think that superheroes offer enough of a challenge."
Wonder when Captain Marvel heard that it was a blow to his pride.:p
 
The trains are a natural monopoly and the union's have taken full advantage,
Should there be an apostrophe with union? If it were American English, I would say "definitely not", but here I top out around "I suspect not".

You already got the malformed sentence I spotted.
 
"But can anything on do what I just did?"
can anything on Earth do what
"I find it reassuring that the greatest scientist of the age isn't focusing on fighting other Humans and longer. Next!"
Humans any longer.
Go figure using teleport gates instead of railways caused issues. Neat to see Paul handle it well regardless, though - I expect we'd face similar situations IRL with self-driving cars and other automated vehicle transport systems, but... somehow handling is unlikely to be quite as smooth.
 
I'm still a bit puzzled by your request to join the Met. Could you explain that?"

"I don't have arrest authority. I don't imagine for a moment that the Lich will actually yield, but best practice requires that I at least try to resolve the situation in a lawful and orderly manner. Or as close to it as possible. Obviously it'll be an on-paper thing and I'll resign as soon as the matter's resolved, but it would be a help."

Zoat, I know the colours don't match- but for the initial confrontation, you Need to go full bobby.

It must be done.
 
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