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Given that ring-instructions, ring-speaking, and strong emotion segments are indicated almost exactly the same, I can only guess this conversation goes 'Orange Ring - Renegade - Orange Ring'?

Thought there might have been some interplay with the rings there at first, but the uncoloured full stop in the yellow fragment I think indicates that it was Renegrayven sarcastically thanking the ring for the late warning.
Thank you, corrected.
 
1. .....is Savage still naked?
2. ....if so, is there a way to change that?
3. what should you do to him now? get him to truthfully talk about bits of history he witnessed to historians?
 
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First of all today's time is the same as yesterday's post-trasition. And since Grayven does some stuff and Shiva and Savage wake up and get ready it should be like a minute later
Thank you, corrected.
Ugh, this is why I shouldn't do timeline corrections first thing in the morning.
When you have GMT -8 you add 8 hours to get GMT. In order to be 21:18 GMT the previous day it should be 05:18 GMT +8 in order to remove 8 hours.
In fact in the same update after a transition you have 13:21 GMT on 22nd June. So the latest Renegade updates are ~22 hours after the SI stuff.

And what I was saying was that you should fix the TOC on the first page to put the SI parts under June 21st (which as I see you have already done).

As things are Grayven returned from Mordru at 09:18 GMT -6 = 15:18 GMT on June 21st. Then you have a SI update that starts at the same time 16:18 GMT+1 = 15:18 GMT (which I assume is fine) and then continues until 16:53 GMT+1= 15:53 GMT. And the day after you have a renegade update at 22 hours later.
If you were actually aiming for a shorter period between the renegade missions and were aiming for 21:18 GMT on June 21st then you should either change the GMT-8 to GMT +8 and change the date for the GMT time to June 21st. You could also change the time to 13:18 GMT-8 on June 21st and then change all the following dates to match it. However in that case why would Savage and Shiva be sleeping at 13:18 their time?

TL;DR the datetimes are almost fine (apart from today's date) to leave as is, if you are OK with Grayven waiting 22 hours between missions.
If you want him to wait only 6 hours you should fix the other dates to match it (and in that case the last 2 Renegade updates should also be moved on June 21st on the TOC).
Oh right! Yes, there is supposed to be a substantial delay. Grayven was seriously injured and a lot of things had to wait until they knew whether he and Captain Atom had been successful or not.
Typo Edit:
This has color set as greed. It should be green instead (which is funny since greed as a color would imply orange instead:):):))
I'm seeing it in the default colour, which is correct as Guy wasn't focusing when he said it.
1. .....is Savage still naked?
2. ....if so, is there a way to change that?
3. what should you do to him now? get him to truthfully talk about bits of history he witnessed to historians?
1: Let's say not.
3: Tricky. Grayven wants to release history books from someone who lived through those eras. However, Savage doesn't have a perfect memory and has a very particular viewpoint. And of course Grayven doesn't particularly want to explain how he got that history.
 
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You blew up lady shiva.

On one hand she was no threat to you. you could have shock collared her and tied up loose ends by removing her limbs.

On the other hand....... Omg did i just casually just suggest that amputation is an acceptable way of restraining a person?
And that is why you don't fuck with the white mage.
 
What a waste. I'd have assimilated Lady Shiva, and dumped Savage into the nearest sun. He might be immortal, but his body is still flammable, but Shiva had useful skills.
 
What a waste. I'd have assimilated Lady Shiva, and dumped Savage into the nearest sun. He might be immortal, but his body is still flammable, but Shiva had useful skills.
Not really. It's come up a couple of times, but normal martial arts just aren't useful for people with super strength or super toughness. They assume things that just aren't true. Wrestling is useful, submission and choke holds and joint locks. Striking isn't.
 
I'm seeing it in the default colour, which is correct as Guy wasn't focusing when he said it.
It shows as color: greed in the bb code editor just FYI though...
And while I was going to say that the rest of the GL text was green, after that we have some text where the start with no color that then gets green and some of it is not green at all so I guess that makes sense, I will correct it in the epubs
 
Depends on context. In a direct fight, I'd say Paul would likely win. Both of their main tools are the Lantern Rings, and Paul is way better with his as demonstrated when he tore through the Green Lantern database in instants, while Grayven took hours to get even a third of it. Grayven also lacks Crumblers and Mageslayers, if I'm recalling correctly, and the Spell Eater might do a good job of voiding any direct offensive use of Grayven's New God abilities. Neither have any real way to nullify the others Lantern abilities, though Paul has an advantage since Crumblers are super effective against Lantern constructs IIRC. Paul also has the better constructs, since his endless tide of fatties is more effective than anything Grayven has right now.

However, Grayven isn't nearly as reliant on his Ring as Paul is. I doubt that Paul would have gotten out of that British castle alive if he was put into the same situation as Grayven, for example. Against something capable of countering Lantern powers, Grayven is infinitely superior.

This is all without Ophidian assistance, of course.


Using her knowledge to combine martial arts with magic would have been pretty sweet.
Grayven could curbstomp Paul by using the formula that gives super speed + the SotF. Also Grayven could summon Ophidian or Parallax too, since emotional entities are easy as pie to summon in this setting for some reason.
 
It shows as color: greed in the bb code editor just FYI though...
And while I was going to say that the rest of the GL text was green, after that we have some text where the start with no color that then gets green and some of it is not green at all so I guess that makes sense, I will correct it in the epubs
Oh! I thought you meant it was orange!
 
Great! I'm glad things finally appear to be going right. And Vandal relying on Mordru when he was taken out yesterday... it's rather poetic, in some ways.

Sort of a 'can't move past the past' thing?
 
Shame about Lady Shiva. I mean, she wasn't nice or anything, but at least she could have been useful in training Cassandra in the future. OTOH, just get a god of martial arts of some sort to train her, maybe a touch of divine awakening.....
 
@Mr Zoat here are the epubs I made up to now.
The Season 1 epub is completed and up to date as of 25/01/2017
The Season 2 epub up to date with the latest chapters and corrections

epub for Season 1 (Episodes 01-26) [MediaFire][MediaFire Alt. Formatting][GoogleDrive] by @Chris6666 (corrections added up to 25/01/2017)
epub for Season 2 (Episodes 27-52) [MediaFire][MediaFire Alt. Formatting][GoogleDrive] by @Chris6666 (chapters up to 07/03/2017)
Note: The Alt versions have background color deep blue and default text color white. Also the transparent text has a darker color as both the background and the text color, and it is also in black borders.
Also both versions have XenForo like threadmarks between episodes while the Alt Versions has similar threadmarks on the individual chapters

Also
Oh! I thought you meant it was orange!
Yeaaahh, when I said this:
This has color set as greed. It should be green instead (which is funny since greed as a color would imply orange instead:):):))
I was making a joke and a callback!
When I was making the epub and saw text colored greed and I was like "Did Mr Zoat meant to write orange and put greed instead" :):) and then I read the actual text and realised that no, it was supposed to be green instead.:rofl::lol:rofl::lol
The callback was because back here I found a similar error were color: red was instead color: rage
 
Grayven could curbstomp Paul by using the formula that gives super speed + the SotF. Also Grayven could summon Ophidian or Parallax too, since emotional entities are easy as pie to summon in this setting for some reason.
Ah hell I had forgotten that Grayven had Velocity Ten and Paul has no answer to that until he possibly cracks the Garrick formula. Yeah you're right, it'd be a curbstomp because super speed is fucking hax.

Regarding the emotional entities, I'm guessing that summoning either one available to him would effectively cause Grayven to undergo permanent identity death and go full supervillain. Both of them resonate well with his New God identity, meaning he'd be unlikely to use it to split himself away from them (if that's even possible), and he lacks the support network and specific circumstances that convinced the Ophidian to let go. Summoning either of them would mean he'd definitely win the fight, but it'd basically be a pyrrhic victory as 'Grayven' as he existed previously would effectively cease to exist as Grayphidian or Paraven proceed to conquer the galaxy.
 
Great! I'm glad things finally appear to be going right. And Vandal relying on Mordru when he was taken out yesterday... it's rather poetic, in some ways.

Sort of a 'can't move past the past' thing?
More of a 'can't believe immortals can die' thing, but I think I get your point - he considered Mordru to be unkillable and therefore undefeatable, and thought the same of himself.


Hmm, If we go meta with that point of assumptions of continued power being wrong... Has Zoat every said where the story would end, like when Paul leaves Earth for example? Because 'Last Supper' could refer to Grayven's last victory before something like getting killed by a last-ditch King of Tears release, with his afterlife being part of the Source Wall (don't know how that works for New Gods).

Of course, even if it's not the end of the story, OL/Grayven could be separated from their followers for a time right after they off the BBG of the current section, resulting in chaos as their followers have to move forward with the plan without help and with the possibility that their leader is gone forever - only to return after three days, stronger and wiser. And then supporting them only with more distant knowledge and power, while residing in a different, 'higher' realm?

Hmm hmm... Lord of Order plus Lord of Chaos interaction & Lord of Tears dimensional fuckery results in our SI's switching places? Each residing in a world where their double took the opposite path of focus, yet recently alienated his allies by attempting their own tactics?
Paul in a world where his double bulldozed through others objections and focused on ingroup empowerment, yet just finished eliminating the Light by forging a working alliance between government and Justice League?
Grayven in a world where his double toadied to the JL and focused on helping what seems like every one other than himself, yet just pissed of both the Light and the JL by assassinating a member of each and attempting to usurp their mantles of power for his own allies?
Each gaining an understanding of the strengths, weaknesses and alternate takes on their own specialty, and seeing the same of the one they avoided?
Skillgains? Personal growth? Crossovers? Tantalizing hint yet denial of promises of future content?

It may be more likely than you think...

FakeEdit: Why yes, I am tired, incoherent and out of it.
 
Has Zoat every said where the story would end, like when Paul leaves Earth for example?
Hah, they think we're near the end of this. Hah. Haha. Hahahaha.

We are now, if one is generous, approaching the 1/5 point of WTR. We're not getting close to done with this until the second season of Young Justice, which will begin in 4 1/2 years.
 
Hah, they think we're near the end of this. Hah. Haha. Hahahaha.

We are now, if one is generous, approaching the 1/5 point of WTR. We're not getting close to done with this until the second season of Young Justice, which will begin in 4 1/2 years.
Third. There's another Season coming, may The Jumped Up Elementals help our author.
 
Make up your mind comic books, people either are baseline humans or they are not baseline humans, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
Zoat's interpretation has consistently been that baseline Earth-16 humans are tougher and stronger than baseline Earth-Prime humans -- the "average" line on Earth-16 is where the "athlete" line is here.

Third. There's another Season coming, may The Jumped Up Elementals help our author.
IIRC he said that it's likely that the events of third season will have been butterflied away by the events of WtR.
 
IIRC he said that it's likely that the events of third season will have been butterflied away by the events of WtR.

Considering that Season 3 is likely to feature Darkseid, it's unlikely that it would be compatible with everything this fic has revealed about New Gods, even completely aside from SI's influence.

I ran into a similar issue when Supergirl Season 2 introduced a different Superman from the one my fic had already featured.
 
Considering that Season 3 is likely to feature Darkseid, it's unlikely that it would be compatible with everything this fic has revealed about New Gods, even completely aside from SI's influence.

I ran into a similar issue when Supergirl Season 2 introduced a different Superman from the one my fic had already featured.
What kind of Superman did you use? Because the Supergirl one is fairly generic...
 
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