With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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The_Letter_K
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An 'intelligent' ring might make a decent antagonist for Grayven, or at least an interesting distraction. I mean, in theory, if it's sentient and sapient, and having emotional flashbacks, couldn't it use itself? At the very least, it could theoretically enslave the weak minded for a puppet body. It'd be hard to meaningfully damage that small a target.
Or maybe I'm just crazy.
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My vote is still that it's Sinestro in the ring, ala Scott Free in Another Nail. Using that as a basis, yes, it can wield itself, and even make a construct body for when thumbs would be nice to have.
Anyway, it has no reason to work against Grayven if they want the same thing, which is entirely possible.
In the comics, Sinestro formed the sinestro cops to be a police force in the tradition of Vlad Dracul- It was said that during his reign one could send out ones virgin daughter with a bag of gold and not worry about either.
I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that Grayven would have a problem with that.
So my assumption is that Sinestro in the ring will be Grayven's answer to the Ophidian.
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Ganurath
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Were you trying to spell poser?Fixed.
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Make it more snake like.Whadda ya think?
The Bushranger
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One reason I'd suspect that Grayven is synthesizing chlorine instead of hydrogen flouride is that the former is an element, while the latter is a compound - he'd have to devote more effort to producing the compound, whereas chlorine is 'set and forget', with a better return on amount produced vis-a-vis expenditure of fear energy.
Kerrus
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Err, it would take way less energy to synthesis a compound than it would to transmute atomic structures directly.
Isn't a compound made of multiple different kinds of atoms working in tandem?
Yes; the word Kerrus should have used is subatomic.
Snakes are OL's thing, not Grayven's.
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Colourless? That's no good, they won't know why they're dying.
Thank you, corrected.
It doesn't exist. Ganthet is still working on his prototype.
Doesn't exist.
Exists.
Doesn't exist.
Whoops. Good point. Changing that.
Thank you, corrected.
I mean, I might have done. I do forget things sometimes.
It would have been going according to my original episode outline where this fight was over in a scene at most and the main fight was afterwards.
Bawhaha!
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I've started replacing them already.
I love it. Added to art list.Whadda ya think?
The Chosen One
Yes, THAT One.
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Okay, so, correct me if I'm wrong here, friends, but let's see if this can be made clearer:
Bushranger proposed that Grayven generated Chlorine as opposed to Hydrogen Fluoride under the assumptions that A) he'd be making either one by the same process, direct Yellow energy-to-matter conversion if I'm reading right, and B) that a compound would be more expensive to produce than an element in similar quantities
Kerrus observed that synthesising a compound, such as Hydrogen Fluoride, from its components (Hydrogen and Fluorine, natch) is much easier than making an element, such as Chlorine, from scratch as above. This is true, but rather incidental to Bushranger's comment, as this is only helpful if the components of the compound are significantly more readily available than the single element; otherwise, he'd be generating them anyway.
Rechte: Yes, a compound is by definition an interaction between multiple atoms, and therefore more complex than those atoms alone.
IIRC, ring users in WtR prefer to transmute existing matter to casting it from ring charge, since that's, without exaggeration, astronomically expensive.
Personally, I don't think the relative complexity of the substance generated matters all that much to a power ring, at least not at this scale. It's not, well, you know. Also, it may be worth noting that Hydrogen Fluoride is, as Empiricist2 pointed out, lighter than Chlorine gas by quite a bit.
In the end, I think this whole discussion is rather moot. Grayven probably could have summoned a similar amount of any number of similar substances for a similar cost. His specific decisions in combat are, as always, a matter of personal choice, limited only, as always, by his creativity as a ringslinger.
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Also, he wasn't going for the most lethal compound possible; Zoat just indicated that Grayven was going for something both dangerous and visible, to generate fear. Not the maximum casualties.
Something like FOOF or chlorine trifluoride would be a lot more lethal, but not generate nearly as much fear because the attackers would all be incinerated immediately.
Chlorine is dangerous, visible, something simple enough he can think of it in the middle of a fight while badly wounded...and color-coordinated with a fear ring as Zoat just said.
Something like FOOF or chlorine trifluoride would be a lot more lethal, but not generate nearly as much fear because the attackers would all be incinerated immediately.
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Just got caught up, New Years kept me offline for a while.
So, to ALL NEW MEMBERS, use Flexile Space. It is im my opinion (The Best Opinion™) the best SV theme. Flexile Gold is the second best, and never use regular Space.
Anyways, suddenly blackwashing(?) the clones seemed stupid.
So, to ALL NEW MEMBERS, use Flexile Space. It is im my opinion (The Best Opinion™) the best SV theme. Flexile Gold is the second best, and never use regular Space.
Just ask a mod to help.
Nah, they thought a black clone was a problem since casual watchers (who've only seen some of the movies) believed all Stormtroopers to be clones. That, obviously, changes at some point.
Anyways, suddenly blackwashing(?) the clones seemed stupid.
The Chosen One
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I didn't say it was a bad choice. Just that it was his.
Even odds I would've flubbed the whole mission by asking Sinestro to make his criticism more constructive, myself.
Even odds I would've flubbed the whole mission by asking Sinestro to make his criticism more constructive, myself.
Ganurath
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If they don't know why they're dying, they'll still have the fear of the unknown, with the added benefit of nobody understanding the danger well enough to come up with a solution and overcome the source of their fear.
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Shame there isn't just a 'BpaceSattles' style. I mean, we're all familiar with it.
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I've been using Gold, but this one is nice too.
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I think this should be "lever". I checked around to see if it was a British spelling but could not find anything saying yes. Maybe just failed my Search roll, though.
Perhaps I shouldn't have used invisitext for the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags.
Did it end naturally, get abandoned, or etc?
Also, is there a summary anywhere? I stopped reading after Jaune got so powerful that I found the story dull, but I'm moderately curious what happened.
It also destroys glass, asbestos, faces, bodies, and the dreams of children.
Really? Seems like that would be even more terrifying. Consider:
Thanagarian: "Crap, Bob just flew into that yellow-green gas and is now choking/suffering. I should avoid the gas."
Thanagarian: "Holy crap! Bob just caught on fire for no reason!"
Oh and, to the person who said that CFl2 requires a full hazmat suit? (I missed getting the quote, sorry.)
There is nothing known to man that you could make such a hazmat suit from. CFl2 burns basically EVERYTHING. Glass. Sand. Rubber. Steel. Water. Leather. Ice. Gravel. Concrete. The only thing that doesn't burn in contact with CFl2 is candle wax. You can store the stuff by exposing the inside of a steel tank to fluorine gas, thereby creating a thin layer of fluoride on the inside. You then fill the tank with CFl2, carry it to a safe place and never ever look at it again, because CFl2 is an angry and claustrophobic god and, if the fluoride gets scratched, or if a little water gets in the tank, the CFl2 will be Not Amused and will make its non-amusement abundantly clear.
And yes, of course in a fictional DC universe with power rings and magic, you could make an anti-CFl2 hazmat suit. Not here in reality, though.
Now I want a MLP:FiM crossover episode where OL gets that as his cutiemark.Whadda ya think?
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It means 'one who leaves', and as such shouldn't have been used in that context. Thank you, corrected.
But that wouldn't make them afraid of Grayven.
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