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Accurate but cruel.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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spencer1519
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So I've been doing a reread of the story only thread, since this is a long story and I'm sure I've forgotten things. But one of the things that stuck out at me was something in relation to a question I asked a while back. I asked if the Grayven persona was linked to the identity as Orange Lantern, because I was idly wondering what the public knew him as.
During the Aberrance arc, Grayven told Niko to check a fansite that had links to videos of The Team. The fansite listed him as Orange Lantern, sidekick to the Green Lanterns. Now, that information is partially wrong, since he's attached to Wonder Woman, but at least on the internet, that's what they call him.
During the Aberrance arc, Grayven told Niko to check a fansite that had links to videos of The Team. The fansite listed him as Orange Lantern, sidekick to the Green Lanterns. Now, that information is partially wrong, since he's attached to Wonder Woman, but at least on the internet, that's what they call him.
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Called him. Pretty safe to assume that once the POTUS introduced him on National Television as something other then OL, the unofficial fanmade Wiki got updated with more accurate info.
spencer1519
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Well yeah, in that very same episode he goes around constantly introducing himself as Grayven, and is recognized by the name Grayven. My original question was if he was ever publicly known as OL, and at one time he was, though as a GL sidekick rather than a student of Wonder Woman. People probably assumed the name change was as a result of him no longer being a sidekick, since it is something of a tradition that when they promote from sidekick to superhero they often pick a new costume and name for the new independent persona.
The speculation on him going from orange to yellow must have been insane on the message boards, since it happened right after he killed Klarion and then got introduced to the world as Grayven. That actually looks, from the outside, a lot like what happened when Speedy went independent and changed his name to Red Arrow.
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Titanfall (part 14)
- Location
- Hampden Park
20th June
07:21 GMT -3
Nabu raises his arms, a gold light flaring outwards and being answered by the shining ankhs appearing next to each of the weather control drones currently holding position over the storm Oceanus is throwing out. "The mechanisms are crude. But they will serve."
Didn't see you doing any better.
Doctor Lockhart looks out across the world as it lies spread out before us. "There really is no getting away from all this, is there?"
"It is unwise to mistake isolation for safety, Doctor."
"Fate seems to be doing okay. I don't know why you even wanted me here."
"Professionally, because we don't know how well he can actually manage it. Particularly if an enemy magic user targets him while he's working on it. Personally, because I think you needed a kick up the arse."
He frowns at me. "Language."
"Kick up the top part of your legs. You didn't want to go to the ceremony, fine, no problem. But you haven't applied for citizenship-."
"I -James Lockhart- have citizenship. Father faked all the paperwork when he built me."
"I actually wrote you a letter about upgrading your skin to what Danni has. And the rest, if you wanted it. Not to combat levels, just so you can live a comfortable life."
"And if I suddenly rejuvenated, I'd need to come clean about my robotic status. I told Tornado and I'll tell you: it's not happening."
"I can make the changes far more subtle than-."
"Fate to the Justice League. I am ready to begin."
"Batman here. Deploy them at once."
Nabu lowers his arms slightly and four hundred and eighty eight weather control drones wreathed in golden light flash downwards towards the storm clouds. Red Tornado is already down there, testing the edge of the storm front and trying to prevent it spreading further. It should only take a few seconds for Nabu to get them into place, then… Well, we'll see if his existence has any justification.
"I am activating the spell-matrices now."
At this point the drones are just tiny golden specks of light below us, obscured by distance and clouds. Then the clouds around the periphery just vanish, airborne water precipitating immediately and falling to the ocean surface.
"Adequate. Resistance is minimal. This may be because Oceanus is not consciously generating the storm and it is a mere side effect of his presence. I am moving the drones towards the epicentre."
Water continues to fall in a perfect circle as the storm is cut down to size. Okay, a magic user down there could strike the drones with lightning but they're highly resistant to that even without Nabu shielding them. They're shielded against anti-machine effects. Depending on how big a Titan's physical body is -and going by the Hekatonkheires I'm going to guess 'very big'- his best option might well be to just hit them with physical force.
"Doctor, once Batman has no further need of us here, would you be willing to relocate to Atlantis? Your water control abilities-."
A large grey object pierces the storm clouds from the inside, lashing outwards… Presumably towards the drones. It's… This high up the scale is lost. It… I can't scan it, but I'd guess that it's made of stone. The shape is a long thin triangle, sharp along both visible edges. One drone is cleaved in two by the blade and another is smashed by the flat. Another prong emerges and-. Wait, that configuration… The trident, the ratio and spacing matches Oceanus' Trident.
Nabu adapts, moving the drones in that area around the obstruction and continuing to have them close in. Okay, let's see. Assuming that that trident has the same proportions as the smaller one Orm uses and that the Titan's material body has the same proportions as his, that means…
Ah.
"Orange Lantern to Justice League. My calculations suggest that Oceanus is about five miles tall. If he's standing on the sea bed, he should be visible from the waist up once the clouds are gone."
"Noted."
Batman's response is dry, almost disinterested. I suppose… From a planning point of view precisely how tall he is doesn't matter.
The storm is pushed back further, the head of the trident and… A hand. A hand made from churning grey water. Another becomes visible on the opposite side and I use the distance to check my calculation. Yep, I'm about right. Further in and a bracer made of the same stone-like material as the trident becomes visible strapped around his forearms. His water-body appears to be formed with a highly defined humanoid musculature. So, big and made of water. Um. Okay, I think I'm leaning towards needing to use the Sword of the Fallen but I'm certainly not in panic mode yet.
I left that in my bedroom, didn't I?
Nabu moves the drones down underneath another ponderous swing to the trident and two grey… Pincers..? Become visible through the clouds. Ah, traditional depictions of Oceanus show the claws springing directly from his head, but the entity we're seeing uses them as helmet decoration instead. Given that his body appears to be made entirely of water I suppose that shouldn't be too surprising. Lower still, and his face becomes visible. Solid shaped water once more, though with the spray and lack of colour difference the features are a little indistinct. Appears to be Caucasian in proportions and… Not much expression. Stern disapproval, but neither mouth nor the patches of extreme churning turbulence that mark his eyes are moving much. I suppose that it's also possible that he isn't aware of us. That we're just.. too small, too mystically inert to really register. Or too far away in Nabu's case.
His shoulders come into view. Bare, unarmoured. Not sure if that's odd or not. I'd guess that he doesn't have any need for armour, lacking vital organs or blood vessels. But then, what are the helmet and the bracers for? Decoration? Given how Human the Olympians I've met so far are I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that he might have a sense of pride.. or artistry?
"Doctor Fate to the Justice League. Oceanus appears to no longer be trying to maintain the storm. I am recalling the drones in case they are needed later."
The golden flecks glow brighter as they fly directly away from Oceanus in all directions. The storm still raging around his pectoral muscles appears to fade, spreading and fading to a mere sea mist. His head turns slightly up, looking in the direction of… Looks like Florida, though it isn't easy to calculate precisely. His head turns slowly northwards-. No, of course, he's looking at the long green wall. He bends slightly at the waist, left arm reaching down towards the sea's surface.
"Batman to Wonder Woman. If you believe he can be reasoned with, now is the time."
A small target reticle appears on my armour's screen as Diana flies in from the perimeter towards Oceanus. Donna might be a better choice, given that most Titans appear willing to at least talk to her. But she isn't a member of the Justice League and there is absolutely no guarantee that Oceanus isn't just going to attack. And we don't know that Titans aren't happy to talk to Diana; she's mostly avoided them due to her respect for the Olympians. Jordan's flying along just behind her, because while the winds have died down a little there's no way Diana's going to be able to shout loudly enough to make herself heard.
I don't.. really have anything to contribute to the situation. I'd ask where Batman wants me, but I don't really want to distract him. If he wants me to move somewhere I'm sure that he'll tell me.
"Aqualad to Orange Lantern."
Ring, person to person only.
Compliance.
"Orange Lantern here, go ahead."
"Has Batman given you any indication as to whether he wants us to proceed with our raid?"
"No. I… Don't really know how useful it will be with Oceanus already active, but speaking for myself I would be exceedingly happy to see Truggs knocked down a peg or two. Is everyone in fighting condition?"
"It seems that we have little choice. I will begin preparations."
I nod. "Best of l-"
The sea buckles, water streaming in from all parts of the Atlantic and building in the area around Oceanus' left arm. I can see the water level against Guy's wall drop as it does so.
"-uck. Hang on, something's-."
Oceanus half turns and gestures in the direction of North Africa, the huge mass of water he'd built up roaring as he launches it eastward!
07:21 GMT -3
Nabu raises his arms, a gold light flaring outwards and being answered by the shining ankhs appearing next to each of the weather control drones currently holding position over the storm Oceanus is throwing out. "The mechanisms are crude. But they will serve."
Didn't see you doing any better.
Doctor Lockhart looks out across the world as it lies spread out before us. "There really is no getting away from all this, is there?"
"It is unwise to mistake isolation for safety, Doctor."
"Fate seems to be doing okay. I don't know why you even wanted me here."
"Professionally, because we don't know how well he can actually manage it. Particularly if an enemy magic user targets him while he's working on it. Personally, because I think you needed a kick up the arse."
He frowns at me. "Language."
"Kick up the top part of your legs. You didn't want to go to the ceremony, fine, no problem. But you haven't applied for citizenship-."
"I -James Lockhart- have citizenship. Father faked all the paperwork when he built me."
"I actually wrote you a letter about upgrading your skin to what Danni has. And the rest, if you wanted it. Not to combat levels, just so you can live a comfortable life."
"And if I suddenly rejuvenated, I'd need to come clean about my robotic status. I told Tornado and I'll tell you: it's not happening."
"I can make the changes far more subtle than-."
"Fate to the Justice League. I am ready to begin."
"Batman here. Deploy them at once."
Nabu lowers his arms slightly and four hundred and eighty eight weather control drones wreathed in golden light flash downwards towards the storm clouds. Red Tornado is already down there, testing the edge of the storm front and trying to prevent it spreading further. It should only take a few seconds for Nabu to get them into place, then… Well, we'll see if his existence has any justification.
"I am activating the spell-matrices now."
At this point the drones are just tiny golden specks of light below us, obscured by distance and clouds. Then the clouds around the periphery just vanish, airborne water precipitating immediately and falling to the ocean surface.
"Adequate. Resistance is minimal. This may be because Oceanus is not consciously generating the storm and it is a mere side effect of his presence. I am moving the drones towards the epicentre."
Water continues to fall in a perfect circle as the storm is cut down to size. Okay, a magic user down there could strike the drones with lightning but they're highly resistant to that even without Nabu shielding them. They're shielded against anti-machine effects. Depending on how big a Titan's physical body is -and going by the Hekatonkheires I'm going to guess 'very big'- his best option might well be to just hit them with physical force.
"Doctor, once Batman has no further need of us here, would you be willing to relocate to Atlantis? Your water control abilities-."
A large grey object pierces the storm clouds from the inside, lashing outwards… Presumably towards the drones. It's… This high up the scale is lost. It… I can't scan it, but I'd guess that it's made of stone. The shape is a long thin triangle, sharp along both visible edges. One drone is cleaved in two by the blade and another is smashed by the flat. Another prong emerges and-. Wait, that configuration… The trident, the ratio and spacing matches Oceanus' Trident.
Nabu adapts, moving the drones in that area around the obstruction and continuing to have them close in. Okay, let's see. Assuming that that trident has the same proportions as the smaller one Orm uses and that the Titan's material body has the same proportions as his, that means…
Ah.
"Orange Lantern to Justice League. My calculations suggest that Oceanus is about five miles tall. If he's standing on the sea bed, he should be visible from the waist up once the clouds are gone."
"Noted."
Batman's response is dry, almost disinterested. I suppose… From a planning point of view precisely how tall he is doesn't matter.
The storm is pushed back further, the head of the trident and… A hand. A hand made from churning grey water. Another becomes visible on the opposite side and I use the distance to check my calculation. Yep, I'm about right. Further in and a bracer made of the same stone-like material as the trident becomes visible strapped around his forearms. His water-body appears to be formed with a highly defined humanoid musculature. So, big and made of water. Um. Okay, I think I'm leaning towards needing to use the Sword of the Fallen but I'm certainly not in panic mode yet.
I left that in my bedroom, didn't I?
Nabu moves the drones down underneath another ponderous swing to the trident and two grey… Pincers..? Become visible through the clouds. Ah, traditional depictions of Oceanus show the claws springing directly from his head, but the entity we're seeing uses them as helmet decoration instead. Given that his body appears to be made entirely of water I suppose that shouldn't be too surprising. Lower still, and his face becomes visible. Solid shaped water once more, though with the spray and lack of colour difference the features are a little indistinct. Appears to be Caucasian in proportions and… Not much expression. Stern disapproval, but neither mouth nor the patches of extreme churning turbulence that mark his eyes are moving much. I suppose that it's also possible that he isn't aware of us. That we're just.. too small, too mystically inert to really register. Or too far away in Nabu's case.
His shoulders come into view. Bare, unarmoured. Not sure if that's odd or not. I'd guess that he doesn't have any need for armour, lacking vital organs or blood vessels. But then, what are the helmet and the bracers for? Decoration? Given how Human the Olympians I've met so far are I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that he might have a sense of pride.. or artistry?
"Doctor Fate to the Justice League. Oceanus appears to no longer be trying to maintain the storm. I am recalling the drones in case they are needed later."
The golden flecks glow brighter as they fly directly away from Oceanus in all directions. The storm still raging around his pectoral muscles appears to fade, spreading and fading to a mere sea mist. His head turns slightly up, looking in the direction of… Looks like Florida, though it isn't easy to calculate precisely. His head turns slowly northwards-. No, of course, he's looking at the long green wall. He bends slightly at the waist, left arm reaching down towards the sea's surface.
"Batman to Wonder Woman. If you believe he can be reasoned with, now is the time."
A small target reticle appears on my armour's screen as Diana flies in from the perimeter towards Oceanus. Donna might be a better choice, given that most Titans appear willing to at least talk to her. But she isn't a member of the Justice League and there is absolutely no guarantee that Oceanus isn't just going to attack. And we don't know that Titans aren't happy to talk to Diana; she's mostly avoided them due to her respect for the Olympians. Jordan's flying along just behind her, because while the winds have died down a little there's no way Diana's going to be able to shout loudly enough to make herself heard.
I don't.. really have anything to contribute to the situation. I'd ask where Batman wants me, but I don't really want to distract him. If he wants me to move somewhere I'm sure that he'll tell me.
"Aqualad to Orange Lantern."
Ring, person to person only.
Compliance.
"Orange Lantern here, go ahead."
"Has Batman given you any indication as to whether he wants us to proceed with our raid?"
"No. I… Don't really know how useful it will be with Oceanus already active, but speaking for myself I would be exceedingly happy to see Truggs knocked down a peg or two. Is everyone in fighting condition?"
"It seems that we have little choice. I will begin preparations."
I nod. "Best of l-"
The sea buckles, water streaming in from all parts of the Atlantic and building in the area around Oceanus' left arm. I can see the water level against Guy's wall drop as it does so.
"-uck. Hang on, something's-."
Oceanus half turns and gestures in the direction of North Africa, the huge mass of water he'd built up roaring as he launches it eastward!
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- Location
- Hampden Park
Sure.
Thank you, corrected.
spencer1519
(Verified Heretic)
- Location
- Oregon, USA
Five mile tall titan. No big deal, not even worried.
Just Tuesday guys, amiright?
If I wasn't convinced OL was productively insane before I sure am now.
Just Tuesday guys, amiright?
If I wasn't convinced OL was productively insane before I sure am now.
I'd be tempted at this point to pull back the JL and try nuking Oceanus; he's actually big and destructive enough to make that a reasonable level of force. Not sure if he's dependent on his body enough for it to work, though.
Typo:
Typo:
"flecks"
Mr. Zoat,
A correction for you:
Nabu raises his arms, a gold light flaring outwards and being answered by the shining ankhs appearing next to each of the weather control drones currently holding position over the storm Oceanus is throwing out. "The mechanisms are crude. But they will serve.
Needs a " at the end
A correction for you:
Nabu raises his arms, a gold light flaring outwards and being answered by the shining ankhs appearing next to each of the weather control drones currently holding position over the storm Oceanus is throwing out. "The mechanisms are crude. But they will serve.
Needs a " at the end
Chaoswind
Lord of nonsense
- Location
- Latin America
What has Africa ever done to him?
Shouldn't the second closest target be Britain/Europe.
aeqnai
Nerdy Homu
- Location
- Laniakea Supercluster
- Pronouns
- She/Her
North Africa coming in from the Mid-Atlantic doesn't mean Khandaq, it means Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Algeria and Tunisia.
Still a lot of people and a rich and diverse series of cultures, but it's not Adom and such.
Though it might also include Portugal, Spain and Gibraltar.
Still a lot of people and a rich and diverse series of cultures, but it's not Adom and such.
Though it might also include Portugal, Spain and Gibraltar.
- Location
- Canada
Better tell Guy to get on that right the fuck now.
- Location
- Laniakea
Welp. Time to drain the oceans.
"I'm Batman."
Yup, just like you always do!
Missing the closing speech mark.
I think that last word should be "something's", but that's not clear.
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- Australia
Well that's a bad idea. Let's give Adom a reason to be pissed off and a fight only he can fight. He won't be having concerns about his place in the modern world while he's stomping Light throats.
- Location
- Hampden Park
The impact will be far worse against North-West Africa than North-East Africa where Kahndaq is, so probably not.
Wouldn't be too healthy for the Atlanteans.
Thank you, corrected.
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Maybe there's some Olympian there he wants to kill? If he's really operating on a "mortals are an insignificant bugs" basis then he likely won't even consider all the humans that will be killed if he smashes an entire region to attack one god any more than a human punching another human in the face worries about any microscopic bugs that his fist lands on.
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- Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun
Alfred Pennyworth said:
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- Pittsburgh, PA
I'm wondering why Oceanus would bother attacking North Africa, of all places.
I could see him trying to drown Mount Olympus, or try to wipe Greece off the map entirely: avenge himself on the traitorous fucks who locked him away. Hell, I could see him attacking Atlantis directly if the Saremites begged for him to purge the Olympian-worshiping heretics.
At this point, I'm wondering if it's going to turn out that some spot in North Africa is where he kept some sort of private cache, or a subterranean cavern full of his progeny, or something else he intends to expose to the sea once more. Makes as much sense as anything at this point.
I could see him trying to drown Mount Olympus, or try to wipe Greece off the map entirely: avenge himself on the traitorous fucks who locked him away. Hell, I could see him attacking Atlantis directly if the Saremites begged for him to purge the Olympian-worshiping heretics.
At this point, I'm wondering if it's going to turn out that some spot in North Africa is where he kept some sort of private cache, or a subterranean cavern full of his progeny, or something else he intends to expose to the sea once more. Makes as much sense as anything at this point.
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