Paulphidian rotated the moon because he was bored, so it's not like Oeanus is inconsistent with other powerful beings in story.
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Paulphidian rotated the moon because he was bored, so it's not like Oeanus is inconsistent with other powerful beings in story.
I'm guessing this is a continuation of the theme of the latest episodes - the League being shown how unprepared they really are to truly protect the world. How basically every one of them needs to step up their top power levels by at least an order of magnitude. How Guy has to learn to consistently call on Ion, and how Diana pretty much has no choice but to embrace her Titanic nature, and how Batman, to matter as a human on the large scale, has to have the industrial base of a world power.
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While this is a big deal for the League it is a planetary level problem. Not a solar system or galactic level problem. I am a little surprised the Green Lantern Corp don't have a standard operating procedure for this. It is almost below the notice of the Guardians, in their millions of years they must have come across this problems dozens of times. It would have been nice if they included a 'How to Deal With Five Mile Tall Jumped-Up Elementals for Dummies' file in the standard ring database. Maybe a flow chart or slide-show.
It is something that always annoyed me about the DC universe. It really seems like the Guardians are trying to get the Green Lanterns killed. The sheer amount of institutional knowledge the GLC must have accumulated in its existence would be phenomenal. I suppose it would distract from the plot tension if the rings were actually helpful and informative.
It is something that always annoyed me about the DC universe. It really seems like the Guardians are trying to get the Green Lanterns killed. The sheer amount of institutional knowledge the GLC must have accumulated in its existence would be phenomenal. I suppose it would distract from the plot tension if the rings were actually helpful and informative.
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But you can't put that much water into subspace!!
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They probably left it out because it hasn't happened in so long, the single planet Earth, has at least three green lanterns at anytime, when the rest of the galaxy/universe, get's two a sector. A sector! If they paid more attention to the going on of the planet where too many universe busters keep appearing than they'd probably go and dust off the old god killing manuals.
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Thank you, corrected.
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Yeah, but the White Entity is hiding on Earth, and the Guardians know this. It's even implied that it's the reason they've given Earth alone three (or four, if Rayner ever wakes up) active-duty Lanterns. If Earth gets fucked up, the rest of the universe gets sympathy pains. Literally.
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And exactly who do you think qualifies as mid level for Apokalips exactly?
Barda, who is probably only about as formidable as Wonder Woman?
Mr Miracle, who learned escapology from an Earth carnie?
Grayven, who is entirely dependent on a power ring for his mojo?
In the comics, Krona destroyed the entire Earth without the White Light Entity even noticing apparently, Oceanus throwing some (or even all) the water about isn't going to do anything whatsoever to the White Light Entity.
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Given that Gibraltar Straits is a thing and Khandac is Egyptish... msot of the wave is not going to reach its shores. the Deatholl will be in the Morocco area, Ceuta and the like
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I'm calling bull today. There is no way any rational person would leave behind one of the two things they have which might be able to take down a Titan, even if everything they know about it is from hearsay and speculation. Seriously, Zoat, you're stretching.
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While I agree, there are several in-story justifications for the sword not being a solution here:
1) It's not an insta-kill weapon, and it's human sized. Oceanus is 5 miles tall. How the f*ck would you kill something that big with a human-sized sword? Even assuming human-like anatomy (ie vital organs existing), durability and regenerative abilities.
2) You don't kill a personification of the world's oceans for the same reason you don't kill Gaia or Death of the Endless - it's a really bad idea that likely completely destroys the ecoshpere (and minimum).
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He learned escapology escaping from the x-pit. He learned stage escapology from an Earth carnie.
To quote Rogal Dorn: "No."
He just woke up. He'll go and pick it up when he has a moment.
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I'm not holding my breath (It's not part of Zoat's favored portion of DC history), but in the comics I'd imagine Nemesis's sword might work.
You see, not only does it kill things dead like the sword of the fallen, but it does so by stealing the target's mojo. Even the gods can't use their power to come back if they know longer have the power.
Forged by the Titans to kill deities before Heph even started playing with tools.
Of course, then the problem is trusting the person who now has the divine power up.
In the comics, Nemesis used it to steal Wonder Woman's mojo and then set herself up as big woman on campus on Mt Olympus.
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Oh, so it wasn't just me. I got that impression as well
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First I've heard of it, and it's better than a sword I already consider to be overpowered.
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You know, when someone tries to summon bigger fish, then you are meant to say no if you go by Darths and Droids GM Logic.
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Well that too.
Although that leads to the idea of somewhere in the DC multiverse there being a Lord of Chaos Paul thanks to the Flashing Blade.
Which would probably be too much for a major story without completely overhauling the concept, I happen to think would make an interesting omake or two.
Now I'm trying to think of what color ring would work well thematically for a lord of chaos. Off hand, yellow or blue seems the most appropriate for me- People either fear or hope for change.
Or maybe a universe in which Paul has Alan's starheart ring....
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Uh oh.
...You know, I've wondered for a while why exactly the Olympians never offed the Titans completely and took all their power for themselves fully, but maybe they thought the risk wasn't worth it.
After all, we know what happens when a Great Power/Principality or an object of PHENOMENAL supernatural potential gets destroyed.
Wild Magic y'all. As in, the Supernatural becomes even more of a natural phenomenon.
And DC/Vertigo is VERY familiar with "The Magic Comes Back" trope.
How much does anyone want to bet that if Paul and the League, (or just Paul because, you know, Chaos), actually kills Oceanus, the Archetypal forces that the titan embodies will be released into the world, causing an unnatural rise in water/ocean related supernatural activity?
On the plus side, seashell healing/divination ought to gain a great deal of credibility, so that's good news for those like Santeria practitioners who use cowrie shells!
On the other hand...
If teenagers dabbling with black magic can unleash demonic horrors upon the world, then an oil and gas company waking up the Old Ones isn't that far-fetched.
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Or maybe they don't know how, or maybe they still have a prohibition against kinslaying or maybe the side effects of doing so are too terrible to incur.
Got to be honest, that isn't where my mind went when I saw that 'DP unleashes Cthulu'.
Hmmm, isnt't North Africa fairly safe from this wave due to the strait of Gibralter? I mean, it looks more like Spain/Portugal/NW Africa would have a lot more to fear then reest of North Africa.
True.
The Olympians certainly wouldn't want to draw down the wrath of The Kindly Ones upon their heads.
Well, aside from unleashing a lot of Wild Energies/Magic into the world(s) and it's seas, I suppose the existence of Oceanus might serve some obscure, fundamental purpose that mortals aren't aware of.
And if any Titan goes, then The Olympians who would hold similar influence over the realms that their elder brethren do, (Poseidon/Neptune, in the case of Oceanus for example), will likely be forced to take on greater responsibilities than they're comfortable with.
Not to mention Gaia might be a "little" miffed that one of her kiddies got offed...
One has to ask why they weren't used against Darkseid. Because if they can take on an Endless, then Darkseid would at least be inconvenienced.
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I suspect not, actually. It sounds to me like the problems from not having that "opt out of physics" are intentional on Zoat's part.
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