With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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OL can craft minor magic artifacts himself as long as it's of the type that uses the wearer's own arcane field to power it like that shield thing he made Kaldur.
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Being fair, Sunset as of the current point in time is pretty much... well, not pony like in her mindset. More like an alien suffering culture shock. She hasn't got the friendship mindset you'd get with the other ponies honestly, not to mention she tends to be snarky.
Nothing Earth-16 Lex has done or said, either in this story or the canon show, has given me any reason to believe that he does not have a very similar personality and motivation to Earth-1 Lex. So until Zoat changes something, and to be fair it's looking like he might with those hints he's dropping, yes they are basically the same character.
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If he said no, it wouldn't have mattered. If he said yes, it wouldn't have mattered.
It is unlikely that Lex would tolerate that sort of intrusion in his office.
That's the point, Paul thought this Luthor was better than that. Turns out that he's not.
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'Better' may be the wrong word.
hance1986
The One Above All.
If you take the part about judging as truth, Paul was judging Lex in the past piece on the company Lex keeps. Paul can't reveal the higher mysteries to Lex because Lex would show his friends and they would engage in some bullshit.
In the time Paul has been a hero and collaborating with Constantine and Io and Ted Kord and Sephitan, he has produced tangible results. The Starro-tech nanotech cure wafers, Paul helped bring those about by suggesting Dr. Roquette and Sephitan and Professor Vulko in Atlantis network using a Genomorph telepathic connection. Paul was the one who explained the concept of the Spell Eater to Sephitan and did the initial prototype work with his ring before Sephitan developed a way to mass produce them. Paul helped induce positive regime change in the end by freeing Teth Adom. Paul is working with Ted and Io on the orichalcum and the Bleed Torsion power units.
In comparison, the Light has developed a demonic transformation serum with the appealing name of 'Devil Jizz', Queen Bee is dead, Ra's al Ghul is out of the picture and Talia defected to the other side and is marrying Batman, Truggs is probably up to something 'clever' with too many moving parts (seriously. Look back at the fight he had against the Team at the plane crash site. Truggs had mercenaries with power armor and cold guns, killer robots based off the Red elemental robot designs, a demonic attack dog, and himself. And he lost. Then in Round 2 the Light had a full mind controlled League and a force of neo-Nazis with power armor and Wolf Krieger and Captain Nazi and summoned Vikings and Klarion and lost again.)
It's like somebody said before. The Light's ego and need for confrontation still prevents them from making actual strides forward. The Light is getting help from Apokolips, home to an actively hostile race of beings. Paul is using native resources and technology as much as possible. The orichalcum. An Atlantean shopkeeper who is now the Royal Artificer. During his TED talk Paul showed the Thinking Cap which made some guy powerful enough to give the Justice Society problems.
The Light is on a sinking goddamn ship.
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a further example of OL vs The Light:
The Light created a half dozen Flying Doom Fortresses with Cold Cannons and used them in an attempt to prevent a young princess from getting lifesaving surgery, to help an associate member. And failed.
OL took one of those fortresses, and has refrozen the Arctic circle with plans to do the same to the Antarctic, helping the environment.
The Light created a half dozen Flying Doom Fortresses with Cold Cannons and used them in an attempt to prevent a young princess from getting lifesaving surgery, to help an associate member. And failed.
OL took one of those fortresses, and has refrozen the Arctic circle with plans to do the same to the Antarctic, helping the environment.
Silverias
Seeing is Believing
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You know...I don't know how I feel about Lex's stuff coming out in Renegade.
I've been a pretty big advocate for renegade, but I feel like something like that coming out in the (supposedly) supplementary material instead of the main plotline feels like it might...diminish the main story.
Am I off base?
I've been a pretty big advocate for renegade, but I feel like something like that coming out in the (supposedly) supplementary material instead of the main plotline feels like it might...diminish the main story.
Am I off base?
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Not sure. The SI hasn't investigated Lex's past in any great detail nor attempted to talk to him about it It probably wouldn't interfere with your appreciation of his SI timeline alter ego not to read it. But plenty of things about the background can only be learned by having the main character interact with it. Sometimes the SI doesn't.
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The short-mid-long term environmental effects of Orange Lantern refreezing the poles is currently unknown. So it's a bit to early to know if him doing so helped the environment or not. :lol
Though that makes me wonder if he asked his ring to model the effects suddenly adding that much cold to the environment would have on things like the jet stream and various oceanic currents.
Plus Renegade is a member of the Light, a 'peer' of Luthor's now, he'd be more willing to open up to him than someone who's officially part of the opposing team, regardless of how much Paragon-side Lex likes OL.
it accomplish more good than the Light's plan.
Of course, putting your garbage/recyclables in the correct receptacles does more good than the typical Light plan.
hance1986
The One Above All.
I know you're joking but Gaia said she was cool with it. That's really the only seal of approval Paul needs.
As far as Paul investigating Lex's past to find out where this tortured soul shit is coming from? No. Don't bother. Because Paul made an open and comprehensive offer that would basically put all the burden on OL to get rid of the other assholes in the LIght and Lex still refused. More than that he straight up and lied to his face when they both know as Paul put it, more 'puerile' things are in the works to come.
It's like having a family member steal from you, catching them, and them saying 'sorry' when you both know they're going to do it again. And again.
"Not as blinded by traditional supervillain ego-bullshit as most other supervillains" is still a type of 'better.'
daimahou
Hear... Feel... Think...
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Well, we know that OL cleaning the garbage in the ocean(s) has a positive effect on everything living there.
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- Oblivion
Of course Gaia was cool with it, he lowered her temperature a tiny bit.
Sorry, couldn't resist the pun.
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I think this should be either "Sometimes" or "Some time" depending on which meaning you meant; I'm not sure which.
That's actually the opposite of what thwarted OL. Zoat's emphasis on "better" being the wrong word is because OL was hoping that Luthor would be MORE greedy and self-interested and LESS virtuous so that he could take advantage of it.
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The inertia winder is the Terminan equivalent of a seat belt/air bag system, it's for not dying mangled and buried alive in one own's ship.
Life support would be the job of the life support system, which on earth it doesn't even seem like Terminans need, since even after Icon basically EMPed Oblivion's nanites he survived on Earth just fine as the cops hauled him away.
Although Oblivion grasping for air like a fish out of water after Icon nuked his nanites would have been darkly amusing.
Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if one could rig a life support system out of Icon's crash pad, but he'd have to ask Icon about that.
One would also think that is the kind of thing that might be in the GL database, it's not like Oxygen requiring life forms are few and far between in the DC universe.
Oh there's an obscure DC character that has interesting potential- Kaleb of Hydros. A future superman who traveled into the past to kill Lex Luthor before he becomes a genocidal space emperor.
Presuming that Hydros exists, or is populated, in this fic, one would have to wonder if Hydros is a lost kryptonian colony along the lines of Daxam. Sure Kaleb says he's not kryptonian, but that doesn't mean that his people weren't kryptonian at some point.
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Nono, he can ego bullshit, he just needs to ego bullshit in the right direction.
Science
If you're reading this, omae wa mo shindeiru.
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Hence "traditional supervillain", or "bound to classic comic book narrative".
I'm surprised Wally didn't make a "bromance" joke.
Kid Flash: "There'll be other greedy industrialists."
OL: "I really thought Lex was the one..."
Kid Flash: ???
OL: "...to help me uplift humanity, I mean."
[later]
Kid Flash: "How can anyone be that oblivious to double ententes?"
Zatanna: (chugging wine) "Welcome to my life."
Kid Flash: "There'll be other greedy industrialists."
OL: "I really thought Lex was the one..."
Kid Flash:
???OL: "...to help me uplift humanity, I mean."
[later]
Kid Flash: "How can anyone be that oblivious to double ententes?"
Zatanna: (chugging wine) "Welcome to my life."
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I have become convinced the Thinking Cap is the thread having an Episode of Mass Hysteria.
Because Psychic Powers are a GREAT fallback if something happens to the Ring, and OL has not taken any visible steps to exploit it. Since this this supposed to be the story where the SI avoids standard nonsensical comic tropes, like say handicapping himself by refusing to expand beyond his shtick and arbitrarily adhering to 'one powerset per person'
I can only assume the Thinking Cap is, in fact, a hoax.
Or Zoat has backpedaled on the whole 'rational actor heroism' thing, on the one particular issue that Intrests me the most, solely to gaslight me and slowly drive me insane.
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