With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Lordamnesia
What are we doing again?
Isn't Lemon Tartar just.... lemon wedges? If that's the case, it just might have free lemon tartar!
Ganurath
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It's the fanfiction equivalent of the Tale of Genji, in terms of duration. Story runs that long, shit starts getting weird.
CrackedCosmonaut
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It's time.
It's time for the special squad of SPESS MAHRINEs that OL created out if those Vikings.
You know the ones I'm talking about.
It's the Vikings that are really bored and so OL created them SPESS MAHRINE themed power armor and weapons.
And of course, each warrior has a pet assimilated daemon like chubbs assigned to it.
These deamons can form into additional weapons or posses existing ones with a power boost.
The SPESS Vikings have helmets, and their pets will eat any starfish attackers.
Wait. He didn't do that?
This is OL, he's not going to leave those poor immortal Viking warriors up there to get bored.
And he's certainly not going to pass up an asset like dozens of experienced melee fighters.
We also know, that he's really into Warhammer 40k.
Warhammer 40k technology, looks exactly like the way a person from a primitive society would describe it.
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Though.... maybe this isn't the best fight for them.
Yeah...
Straight up combat against paradeamons would be a better use.
Odin might get pissed if you allow a starro to humiliate his einherjar.
It's time for the special squad of SPESS MAHRINEs that OL created out if those Vikings.
You know the ones I'm talking about.
It's the Vikings that are really bored and so OL created them SPESS MAHRINE themed power armor and weapons.
And of course, each warrior has a pet assimilated daemon like chubbs assigned to it.
These deamons can form into additional weapons or posses existing ones with a power boost.
The SPESS Vikings have helmets, and their pets will eat any starfish attackers.
Wait. He didn't do that?
This is OL, he's not going to leave those poor immortal Viking warriors up there to get bored.
And he's certainly not going to pass up an asset like dozens of experienced melee fighters.
We also know, that he's really into Warhammer 40k.
Warhammer 40k technology, looks exactly like the way a person from a primitive society would describe it.
....
Though.... maybe this isn't the best fight for them.
Yeah...
Straight up combat against paradeamons would be a better use.
Odin might get pissed if you allow a starro to humiliate his einherjar.
Ion hasn't actually made any contact with Guy. Only that he is the preferred and/or perfect partner.
I never quite understood how mind control actually works on Green Lanterns. They are literally powered by pure willpower, I would have thought that would give them massive resistance to face hugging starfish. Or at least that they wouldn't be able to use the ring because their will has been compromised.
And every time I think Light incompetence has hit it's nadir, they delight in proving me wrong by digging even deeper.
Now the Starros have a magical nanotech cyborg starfish.
I half-expect it to do a magical girl transformation sequence to assume it's Final Form.
More importantly, they lost control and they didn't seek help.
Some protectors of humanity they are.
Kinda surprised OL didn't summon Fatty and the rest to counter their trash mobs with his trash mobs.
Would have interdicted those Starrotech wafers as well as the little Starros they keep throwing at him, and distracted the Star Conquerors enough for everyone to work more freely.
A Star Conqueror trying to shoot down Fatty and maintain shields isn't going to be jamming your optic nerves.
Lasers? Particle beams?
Neither would be stopped by telekinesis fields, unlike railgun rounds; they'd need proper shields for that.
He really should figure out how to make these things with his ring; he has the schematics.
Time to hit the books, OL.
Kinda surprised that Guardian power rings do not have protocols for recognising Starro control and locking out non-life support functions.
This is hardly their first time at the rodeo with these things after all.
The scary thing now is that the Green Lantern with FTL range has been under Starro control since at least the 12th of April.
This is the 16th. Four days at a minimum.
Who knows who he has infected, or where he has been.
Or even if his mind can survive being affected for that long.
I assume the ring could backtrack his movements, but even then that is a fuckscary potential number of targets.
Gardner is probably the leak for when the Starros were being moved, I think.
I assume that if they survive this, OL is going to ask Teekl very nicely to come help screen people for infection.
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Did they just not consider "faces too small, they can still hug big faces" as a thing?
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Is this the first time we have seen him phase post "putting the cake in the mountain" with ophidian?
They should have been notified as soon as problems popped up. Even if the team could have/would have handled it, because of the sheer scope of how badly things could go in a worst case scenario.
I thought they became smarter in groups? That would imply collective consciousness/hive mind.
Ah, the little known relative of the Zatanas "cast by speaking backwards" bloodline, the ability to Nag Cast!
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"You know, this has officially crossed from 'fun' into 'Goddamn Bats' territory. Imma break out the Demon Cheese Nao."
Send the Guardians a "You're doing it wrong" support ticket.
No. He acquired phasing technology from Truggs and still can't phase with the ring.
daimahou
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IIRC, he used phasing at the Louvre fight.
Their willpower presumably helps against the kind of mind control that willpower works against, but not all kinds of mind control care about willpower. And given the way Starros hijack the brains of other creatures well enough to get their intelligence, a Starro hijacking a GL likely gets the same level of willpower as the GL.
Hmmm. Makes me wonder what would happen if a Starro tried facehugging an Indigo Lantern and got their compassion. I suspect that either you'd get a Starro that was sorry about controlling people, or one determined to Starro the universe even harder for its own good.
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Wait wait wait. Wasn't he cure-wafered that time on the Watchtower? And what about Ion?
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*reads later responses* Ah, alright, that makes sense. But I still think Ion-ing should have helped more. And Ion itself should get off it's ass. Paulphidian too.
Steak tartare seasoned with lemon and a bit of salt, I suppose. It's pretty good.
And it's based on a corpus of stories already longer than the Tale of Genji. And really, superhero comics have been pretty weird right from the outset. It's weirdception.
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How does willpower protect you from having your brain turned into a Star Conqueror emulator?
Both of those are stopped by telekinetic defences Star Conquerors can produce. Remember the clip Guy showed the team? Their barriers aren't so much 'opposing force' as 'the universe is now solid'.
They do. And Star Conquerors have protocols to get around those protocols.
Fourteen days continuous, he couldn't. He'd be dead, his brain overwritten. But since he's been visibly functioning it can't have been controlling him full time.
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Thank you, corrected.
Drich
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Turning that around, how does telepathy allow you to overcome the most stable and self-reinforcing emotional light on the spectrum and force their brains to run your mind?
How does the soul not interfere with this?
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I think Star-things focus more on your meats than your metaphysics.
Also, I am imagining one of these things latching onto OL, and then something large, orange, and serpentine just tearing its way out of the mountain and bringing the vengeance.
Cuz that's the exact kind of thing that would piss off snek-waifu
Drich
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And your metaphysics don't interfere at all because..?
What one would expect to happen if you tried telepathy on a Green Lantern is:
Telepath: I can read your mind. Now do the thing.
Green Lantern: No.
TP: Do the thing.
GL: No.
TP: Do the thing.
GL: *Boxing glove construct punch*
TP: *Rekt*
Because you would be directly interfering with the Green Lantern's Will. In a universe where Willpower is a force that allows you to make Power Rings once you get really good at it.
Then Starro comes into the picture. It's a telepath. You'd expect at least some level of resistance, but instead, what happens is:
Starro: I'm on your face.
GL: I'm Starro now.
And that's it. Despite Willpower being a cosmic force. Despite Souls existing, and people thus being more than just brainmeats.
And for some reason, this allows Starro to still control Power Rings, despite the fact that, if they were overwriting their host, they shouldn't be able to use their hosts' Willpower and/or other emotions needed to make Power Rings work.
And apparently, Power Rings are either incapable of detecting Starros that are in control of their hosts, or Starros can trick Power Rings into not knowing. Or the Guardians decided that, despite Starros being known, mind controlling parasites, they shouldn't make their Power Rings not work when Starros are on the host.
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Pretty easily? Green Lanterns are pretty good at resisting external compulsions (if they recognise them as such) but they don't get the ability to ignore mind effects.
Because that's not what it does.
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Adults Are Useless in this one.
How would being particularily hard-headed help more than any other character trait?
Emotional Light != Soul.
Sure, there's interaction, but your lungs are not made of air despite interacting with it.
In any case, most of the time, Soul is a pretty passive force on non-magical people. If something is attacking on a strictly material level, it won't interfere.
The Starro are sort of like a nicer version of Dalek. Do Starro'd people remember what they did afterwards? Because if they bypass memory - say, read long-term memory, completely bypass forming new memories, Starro'd people would basically have no experiences during the time... and thus little reason to resist anything, when there's nothing to resist.
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The second; it's not like Indigo Lanterns are against mind control in the first place.
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The SI is an adult and by Atlantean standards so are Kaldur, Tula and Garth.
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You seem to have mixed up cause and effect here when it comes to green lanterns. Green lantern rings are limited by their willpower, putting on a ring doesn't increase it.
So if a green lantern has strong enough willpower that they can laugh off a telepath, then they can do that if they have a ring on their finger or not.
Now the green lantern who said "screw you death, I've got work to do," maybe he could do it. The Green lantern whose will is so powerful that he accidentally moved his planet out of orbit? Maybe he could do it.
But if it was possible to ignore the Starros so easily that any chump with a power ring could do it, then they wouldn't have conquered nine galaxies and it wouldn't have taken one of the Endless to stop one of their invasions of Earth.
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