With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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Was that ever in question? Nice and sane people don't tend to take the kind of actions the Light does.
Whew it actually isnt.
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That fight was pretty great to read though, not sure why, but I just really enjoyed it.
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What bullshit?
As far as he knows there is absolutely no evidence connecting Lex Luthor to the Light.
Hell due to butterflies he might not even be a part of the organization here.
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Human souls becoming Demons after being processed by Hell, sure, that was a known. But living Humans becoming Demons? That wasn't.
Thank you, corrected.
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Well, y'know, magic works commonly based on mystical links, or, on the voodoo doll principle. So, subspacing a magical object probably needs a way to retain those. Since certain magic things will probably be unable to detect subspace, this most likely means, at minimum, creating equivalent inputs FOR the subspaced object to prevent it from turning into a mundane one.
I've been researching a bunch of mythological things, so bullshitting more-or-less rational explanations for things is something of an occupational hazard.
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Well, looks like I got ninja'd on the corrections this time.
So instead I will say: OL absorbing the orange light like that makes me wonder... How hard would it be to create some sort of portable storage battery? Say, something the size of an amulet that could hold a couple recharges worth of orange light?
So instead I will say: OL absorbing the orange light like that makes me wonder... How hard would it be to create some sort of portable storage battery? Say, something the size of an amulet that could hold a couple recharges worth of orange light?
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The absence of evidence of Luthor's being in the Light isn't evidence of his absence from the Light.
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It's an interesting theory, but the problem with it is that KEEPING a magical item in subspace has a negligible charge cost. It's only putting it in or taking it out that carries a wallop of a charge.
I suspect it's more that arcane networks have a sort of trans-dimensional inertia that requires force to overcome.
Y'know, the last time someone manipulated OL into killing/almost killing a person?
Was when Ra's sent Clayface into Gotham and OL had to use a gamma ray burst to stop him.
OL's response?
Was a vendetta that including shooting him in the head, stealing his Resurrection Pit, talking his daughter into deserting him, and dismantling his organization systematically over the course of months, until he was so weak that his enemies could kill him.
I pity whoever is immediately responsible for this.
Which sounds like a Constantine plan, come to think of it; wouldn't be beyond Demon!Constantine to set up his boss to pull something like this as a power play.
Does the Light sound to you like an organization you can resign from?
Or did you not pay attention to what happened to Ra's?
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Sounds about right.
And yet I thought he was more open minded than normal what with the Empathy and all. Also, Zoat said he even has the Telepathic Adjunct skill! With the Thinking Cap, he could use it, train with Megan, and disable it if it seems like it would be a detriment in the current situation. Also, non telepatch are already vulnerable to telepaths, but telepaths are less so.
Because magic was involved. This would be pure Scientific Biotech/Cybernetics, no Magitech involved.
Again, because magic was involved.
This. The ring is a 99.999999...% Clark Tech Physics Simulation Engine.
I think you have that reversed. Base humans are MORE vulnerable due to being mind blind, not less, because they cannot really tell what an enemy Psychic is doing.
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So Sabbac just transforms to look like a demon instead of actually becoming a demon?
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Sabbac gets POSSESSED by a demon, which asserts its form. The original host is still technically human.
I thought he was just empowered by the Demons and not actually possessed? I mean the ritual of empowerment is the same as the ones used by Captain Marvel and Teth Adom and neither on them are actually possessed by their Gods.
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It certainly seemed like possession when they were getting dragged out of him and cast back into Hell.
They were being dragged out of hell through their connection to him, not out of him directly. If they had possessed him directly he would have been far more powerful than he was and Satanus wouldn't have been able to run away simply by breaking the connection.
Again the ritual of empowerment used by the Marvels is the same and they aren't literally possessed by their Gods.
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Just because the ritual is the same doesn't mean the entities that fulfill the empowerment have to use the same technique to do so. And we really don't have much information on the power available to a demon possessing a host. It may be that Sabbac is more powerful than any one of his patrons individually but nowhere near as powerful as just straight adding up the power levels would indicate.
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There's an episode of He Man which shows very well what happens when a neophyte telepath encounters someone who actually knows what they're doing. And an episode of Babylon 5 where Garibaldi shows what happens when someone good at telepathic defence manipulates a telepath.
Thank you, corrected.
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No, that fits, too. Imagine that... the object has certain arcane connectors, or receptors, which are sort of, holes. If they are not kept open, they will close, or atrophy.
Think of a voodoo doll - it's valuable, "magical", because it has a connection to a target. If this connection is eliminated, even if all the material remains, then it becomes just a doll. So every time you put it in, you need to create emulators to prevent these from closing. While in storage, the objects are more-or-less time-stopped, so they won't demand more of whatever the connections provide. On exit, you need to remove the emulators, reconnect and renegotiate the connection to actual sources.
You could also see it through the metaphor of having a wireless connection, and that being broken if the device is placed into a shielded container.
...Huh, so possibly, the storage could be handled through allowing the external connections access to the storage space, in a limited fashion. By creating an insecure place within subspace storage, it could have permanent hook-ups to whatever metaphysical fuel the object needs.
There is a different type of potential storage limitation, too, and maybe it's more along the lines MrZoat thought of, and yo are thinking about, and that is, of self-contained object (say, instead of storing something using an archangel's feather as it's power source, you store the actual archangel), and that is when the object is physically small, but on astral plane, or it's equivalent, it's the size of an office building. If the subspace storage is fully 11-dimensional, or whatever the needed count be, then objects with only a small 3-d component would, for a limited observer, seem to require much more storage space - and thus entry/exit energy - than it should.
On this matter, someone who's not sensitive would not be able to detect an incoming attack, but that's a separate issue from their vulnerability.
Someone who has an extra I/O channel open, would be vulnerable to attacks through that channel, but they would have a chance to see them coming.
If someone who has an input channel open, but is not aware of it, somehow, would also be vulnerable. Someone who has a closed channel, would in theory be protected, unless the attacker has an alternate way of forcing the channel open, or creating one.
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Doubtful, considering Nabu's possession specifically allows him to add his hosts power to his own, and that Etrigan, presuming he exists in this continuity, can go toe to toe with the likes of Wonder Woman or Superman while being a mere rhymer demon in a human host.
Time to behead Satanus.
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