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Etrigan isn't a typical demon though.

There's a universe in which he's that world's answer to superman, well actually two universes- Superdemon. Merlin, realizing the planet Kamelot was doomed, sends Etrigan to earth, where he bonds with a preacher's son in Kansas, where with a simple incantation he can assume a form with power beyond mere terrestial demons....He can more than hold his own against an Ultraman who was a kryptonian vampire.
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I don't mean this to be directed at you, personally, but rather through you and at DC: Have you ever read something so stupid that you are left speechless? Because I have, and it's the idea of the Moses Pastiche being applied to a demon.
 
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I don't mean this to be directed at you, personally, but rather through you and at DC: Have you ever read something so stupid that you are left speechless? Because I have, and it's the idea of the Moses Pastiche being applied to a demon.

Yes, but Superdemon doesn't even close to that reaction for me. I wouldn't be surprised if Superdemon wasn't a nod towards Hellboy and his being both a messianic figure (and since his father sent him to Earth, another "Moses Pastiche" as you phrased it) and a demon over in his comicbook, especially since Superdemon leads the League of Shadows that includes such members as Fate, Constantine, Deadman, and Swamp Thing.

Not to mention that as often as Superman is portrayed as angelic, a demonic version is a pretty damn obvious idea- flying around in a cape that flutters behind him like a pair of wings, a name that means "Voice of God" in Hebrew, Supergirl was literally an angel for a while, and heck in Supergirl Wings Clark is in Kansas the happy father of a brood of nephilim with Lana.
 
You do, however, need faith to believe that appealing to Eris is going to make things better. :V

Chaos and confusion to the enemy, duh:V
Also, in more extreme situations, calling upon Eris is rather like casting 'Summon Godzilla,' only more so: there comes a point where the probability that they'll make things worse is lower than the chance that they'll fix the problem. This probably isn't one of those situations... yet.
 
plural noun: notches
  1. 1.​
    an indentation or incision on an edge or surface.
    "there was a notch in the end of the arrow for the bowstring"

While that may be; you used it in the sentence
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"Artemis notches an anti-magic arrow."
which should be
"Artemis nocks an anti-magic arrow."

As the Verb Form of Notch (Notches in this case) means "To make a notch in"
While Nock is:

nock
näk/
noun
Archery

verb
verb: nock; 3rd person present: nocks; past tense: nocked; past participle: nocked; gerund or present participle: nocking
1.1 fit (an arrow) to the bowstring to ready it for shooting.


Or, as I like to remember it:
"You notch an arrow, so you can nock the arrow later."
 
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I'm not saying they're "gods", I'm saying they're worshipped and by OL using a phrase of worship towards Eris he's paying her homage and thus makes him a follower of Hellenism. As a follower he is no longer an atheist.
Chaos and confusion to the enemy, duh:V
What would a "chaotic blessing" entail?

Given chaos' inherent randomness, would it be like Schmendrick's "Magic, do as you will!" from "the Last Unicorn"? Or, to paraphrase Magia Erebea from "Negima", chaos cannot be tamed or controlled but if you're lucky it can pointed in the right direction.

Possible Eris hymn: "Oh Eris, please bless the entertainment value of the sh*t storm that is about to commence." [(assuming gods are bored and watch mortals for amusement)]
I hope Paul tries to expand his demonic army.
A little bit excessive don't you think?
OL: "I WILL SHALLOW YOUR SOUL!!!"
Kid Flash: "An Evil Dead reference? Nice."

Given the existence of camera phones, I'd love it if there a bystander (or Eris) posted a youtube video of OL spouting movie one-liners as he fights demons. For Eris, it'd be about PR and making her chosen champion look more appealing to a broader demographic: movie lovers, fans of D&D and 'urban fantasy', wiccans/pagans, etc.

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P.S. Speaking of 'urban fantasy', back on Valentine's Day OL and Zatanna had a business meeting with a gaming company. Did anything productive come from it? A product created or endorsed by a publically known superhero ought to have some degree of success simply because it was created or endorsed by a superhero.

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And now I want OL to do public service announcements about the dangers of dark magic.

OL: "Remember, don't ever summon something you can't put down."
Harleen Quinzeal: "If someone says they saw a demon, confirm whether or not there is a demon before dismissing them as crazy. (pause) You should probably check even if they are crazy, just in case."
OL: "And knowing is half the battle."
 
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I don't think OL can be considered an Atheist anymore, at least not in the modern sense.
He kinda is, he still doesn't believe there were gods in his home universe where there are no souls or magic and people need to take it on pure faith

Here he literally met gods (and propositioned by them). To claim you don't believe in the existence of people whose existence is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is to be a walking strawman of an atheism caricature

if anything, he is even more of an atheist now, if he was to return to his home dimension it won't be just "there is no evidence" but "I am well versed in the magical constructs known as gods and none exist in this dimension, all the religions here are false and I got proof".
 
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if anything, he is even more of an atheist now, if he was to return to his home dimension it won't be just "there is no evidence" but "I am well versed in the magical constructs known as gods and none exist in this dimension, all the religions here are false and I got proof".

Of course, only if you assume that Paul's assumptions that he has absolutely no proof of whatsoever are even close to being true.

Did he perform a magic spell that didn't work in Earth-Prime but worked in Earth-16? Nope.

Did he perform an experiment to prove the existence of souls in Earth Prime that had a negative result on Earth-Prime but proved that souls exist on Earth-16? Nope.

Hell, there isn't even any proof that he's ever been to Earth-Prime other than his memories, and those are suspect, considering Zoat has watched Young Justice while Paul has no memory of it.

Does he know it because that's what the DC franchise say about Earth Prime? Nope, it's in fact in direct contradiction to what the media of DC comics has to say on the matter.

Now of course if Zoat wants Paul to be correct than he's correct, but the story itself has proven no such thing yet.
 
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"Hail Eris, full of chaos."
Paul is surprisingly devout for someone who said he wouldn't worship anything.

Three Demons attacking a building full of civilians in a busy part of the city. Whether it is intended as a distraction or not, he needs to deal with it.
But does he need to deal with it personally? He could fight demons with demons. And in the process spawn more demons!
 
Honestly I am just amazed that Orange Lantern didn't just fall for it, he even left the obvious blood knight who doesn't follow directions behind on guard duty while they went off to a fight.
"Only an idiot would fall for that!"
"Yeah. That's why I got a distraction that'll kill people and devour their souls if you ignore it."
"...Whaw. Yeah, I'll get on that, then."
This. distractions are rarely if ever of the "Take the Bait is bad" and "Ignoring is good" variety. A proper distraction has to be countered just right. To much response, and you are undermanned at the primary goal. To little, and the "distraction" is not a distraction anymore; it is a second flank of attack. You are also assuming they have only one objective. If this is the Light, then securing the Starro Slushy for study might be the goal. Stealing it would accomplish the goal. But so would making Star Labs look insecure in general. If OL "didn't fall for it," then you have demons inside star labs, compromising the hell out of everything. That could also accomplish the goal if it proved Star Labs was not secure enough to take custody of the remains. Like Zoat said, there are Three(3) places with Xeno labs that could take the remains, and one is run by the Chinese Govt and is not civilian. If they can make Star Labs seem unsuitable, then by its Charter the League has to send it to Lex Luthor no matter how much they dislike the idea because it is the only civilian lab qualified to take it.

Rig them with explosives, sure. But there's no sense in destroying them until you know they can't be defended.
Explosions are a Bad Idea. That is more likely to disperse the Starro biomatter as an aerosolized mist if it is not completely destroyed. Better to say "fuck it," and put it in subspace no matter how sensitive it is, and destroy it in a secure location later if necessary. Unless the containers already have an integrated destruct mechanism of Disintegration Rays or Crumbler Rounds already in place, that can destroy the contents without breaching containment.
 
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Paul is surprisingly devout for someone who said he wouldn't worship anything.
When worshipping consists of shooting demons with railguns instead of sitting in a large building being told how guilty you are, worshipping is pretty nice.
But does he need to deal with it personally? He could fight demons with demons. And in the process spawn more demons!
The Praexis Swarm aren't great at reducing collateral damage, being clever, or really being anything other than a brute force attack against an opponent you don't mind killing. If OL wants to interrogate or assimilate/brand these demons, the Praexis aren't a great option.
 
I don't think OL can be considered an Atheist anymore, at least not in the modern sense.

I think he falls under 'It's Complicated.'

I'm not sure of your religious position when not only do you regularly meet your divinity in person, they mostly attempt to seduce you when it happens.

The Praexis Swarm aren't great at reducing collateral damage, being clever, or really being anything other than a brute force attack against an opponent you don't mind killing. If OL wants to interrogate or assimilate/brand these demons, the Praexis aren't a great option.

Orange Constructs can also assimilate. They can use all ring functions.

That's what makes them a hegemonizing swarm and makes the concept of Orange Night so terrifying.
 
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Orange Constructs can also assimilate. They can use all ring functions.

That's what makes them a hegemonizing swarm and makes the concept of Orange Night so terrifying.
I think the issue is that the Praexis Demons are too derp to understand that, and if you managed to explain it to them, they'd probably still just barrel at their targets mouth-first, because they're stupid and hungry.
 
Well if OL assimilates one of the demons himself he should know who's involved in the attack at least.
Only if the demon knows. Smart villains know that the less the mercenaries know, the better. Otherwise, a captured mercenary is an even worse liability than an incompetent one -- an incompetent mercenary only loses you money.

Noxious? More like ob-noxious, there's a reason you don't see that in natural predators, it's dumb. Only bottom feeders have chest-mouths.
Maybe these ARE the bottom-feeders of demonkind.
 
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