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Interestingly, I think Wally might have been the best Flash, because when he had limited speed in the comics, he stretched his brain trying to make up for it, and work out how to use that limited speed to be as effective, if not moreso, than his uncle had been. And, once he gained the top speed, he didn't fall back, but kept using that brain.
 
Seriously...

You know we were just joking about the whole "utterly incompetent" bit right?
Thing is, that kind of "physical electronic security" is exactly the sort of thing even real world military & intelligence organizations get sloppy about, much less a bunch of scientists. Security and convenience/efficiency are pretty much mutually exclusive, you see. So people start taking shortcuts, surely it won't hurt just this one time...

He went after his father in China, so the Great 10 killed him.

Ah. Seem to have forgotten/missed that as well.
Here.

Note that Ghost Fox Killer got him so he's not just dead, he's Extra Super Dead.
 
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Note that Ghost Fox Killer shot him so he's not just dead, he's Extra Super Dead.
Eh, I don't know about that. After all, her shtick is raising/commanding the ghosts of those she's killed. In my mind, 'extra super dead' would be akin to destroying his soul/ghost outright or otherwise negating his very existence.
 
Except that the kind of people who are going to come at STAR Labs are the kind of people who, through tech, powers, sorcery, social engineering, or just planning, can just openly laugh at normal high-end security measures.

There is no evidence for STAR labs incompetence in this fic; quite the opposite.
Professor Ivo tried to retrieve Amazo in transit instead of waiting to hit STAR Labs.
Nylor Truggs needed a freaking power ring to stage a successful breakin, and even with it had enough trouble with the security measures that Guy Gardner was able to catch him there.
Both events point at a commendable level of on-site security.

The fact that Batman's apprentice finds it's not quite to his standards is a case of a perfectionist being...well, a perfectionist.
After all, this is the same kid who considered combat hacking an alien computer system he'd never seen before to be a viable strategy during the Invasion exercise.
 
I'm thinking it would be worthwhile to find a way to eliminate alchemical changes to the body. Not only would this be useful for depowering villains that have such powers, it would let KF get purged so he can get a pure Garrick dose.
I thought that OL had already looked into that and it went nowhere because the changes wrought by the Danner & Garrick formulas are imprinted on to people in a metaphysical manner and that removing the traces of either formula from a person would allow for very short-term temporary power suppression but that the traces of the formula would return and the person would regain their abilities... I may be mis-remembering this, as it was awhile ago and I think it was one of a series of tests OL was performing on rats that he had enhanced... IIRC, the same series of tests showed that trying to enhance a someone with both the Garrick and Danner formulas would end with the someone in question disintegrating...
 
I never really pay attention to the dates... I was hoping he was closer to leaving the planet than he is.
I think that if Zoat were writing this story in the traditional manner instead of as a serial, he would quietly go back to the start at this point and shave a few months off of OL's Oath.

Well, there are other options for a timeskip. Time travel fuckery is a thing, ect.
 
I think that if Zoat were writing this story in the traditional manner instead of as a serial, he would quietly go back to the start at this point and shave a few months off of OL's Oath.

Well, there are other options for a timeskip. Time travel fuckery is a thing, ect.

*ahem*
Are you going to cover the years in between series one and two?
Jumped up elementals help me, yes.

o-nay on the imeskip-tay.
 
I thought that OL had already looked into that and it went nowhere because the changes wrought by the Danner & Garrick formulas are imprinted on to people in a metaphysical manner and that removing the traces of either formula from a person would allow for very short-term temporary power suppression but that the traces of the formula would return and the person would regain their abilities... I may be mis-remembering this, as it was awhile ago and I think it was one of a series of tests OL was performing on rats that he had enhanced...
Correct. He can purge the formulas just fine, but they just re-appear immediately.

IIRC, the same series of tests showed that trying to enhance a someone with both the Garrick and Danner formulas would end with the someone in question disintegrating...
Nope. That's what happens if you try to apply the Garrick Formula twice, the subject explodes. If you try to add the Danner or Garrick Formula to someone already enhanced with the other nothing happens at all.
 
Eh, I don't know about that. After all, her shtick is raising/commanding the ghosts of those she's killed. In my mind, 'extra super dead' would be akin to destroying his soul/ghost outright or otherwise negating his very existence.
Bane wasn't actually all that evil. He was a violent man from a violent place. As such, he probably was turning into a ghost rather than having he soul used as a battery.
 
Friday, the Rio Olympics start. There has been a lot of talk about how fantastically unprepared they are for hosting the event, including but not limited to the water quality for the rowing events being similar to that of raw sewage, or possibly literally raw sewage. There's also the potential Zika virus spreading, a few people have already died from a bike path that collapsed, and various other things. Overall, the Olympians might not be all that healthy in a week's time.
yeah. the aquatic events would be canceled under any SANE health and safety regulations (from memory,for some bizarre reason the current standards for contamination have NO benchmark of viron/viral contamination, so as long as there's less then a certain amount of free-floating BACTERIA present in the body of water in question....), and the rest of the project....well, i get the feeling that the money that'd have been spent on PROPERLY designing and building the Olympic facilities all went to the IOC's customary bribes -_-
 
I thought that OL had already looked into that and it went nowhere because the changes wrought by the Danner & Garrick formulas are imprinted on to people in a metaphysical manner and that removing the traces of either formula from a person would allow for very short-term temporary power suppression but that the traces of the formula would return and the person would regain their abilities... I may be mis-remembering this, as it was awhile ago and I think it was one of a series of tests OL was performing on rats that he had enhanced... IIRC, the same series of tests showed that trying to enhance a someone with both the Garrick and Danner formulas would end with the someone in question disintegrating...
No, I mean finding something other than ring power to do it with. Some magical means of resetting the metaphysique.
 
...huh.. pair of thoughts popped into my head about the relatively lax security. one: things haven't been fully repaired/overhauled after a goddamn POWER RING user brute-forced his way through all of their ( quite likely very potent,expensive and deeply layered defences), or the weak-seeming external layer could be intentional? to cause false confidence/ provide false data on the status on the building/compound's defences to anyone casing the joint?

..when you think about it, if you were EXCRUCIATINGLY careful with WHAT tech/samples you gave to Lexcorp, they could make a VERY good secondary contractor to attempt to FORCE S.T.A.R to get their game on ala the competition between chip designers/manufactures (AMD vs Intel ect).
im thinking things like very carefully chosen pieces of medical technology and so forth that wouldn't just be extremely profitable when used/sold legally (i.e relatively simple improvements in commenly used medical technology, or improved blood filtration machinery/self-sterilising instruments) but would be massive public relations coups (and a way to test to see if Alexander IS genuine about the root cause of his jealousy of Kal-El, or is simply spouting self-justifying BS like 2/3 of his incarnations)...
on second thoughts, WHAT would be safe given, at BEST we're talking about a recovering megalomaniac?
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... what about something like competitively cheap, but VASTLY improved first aid supplies? trying to think what could go wrong, but... you know. im fairly sure the vast majority of first responders/EMT's are still using relatively mundane equipment and consumables (and on that note, i know that AMBULANCES are deathtraps for the people who work in them on a daily basis, but i can think of more then a few ways inertial dampening/reduction tech could be used that..you know..)
 
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If I can learn what they're doing
By the way, what is Cornwall Boy up to?

Is he still learning from the ghost of his grandfather?
He also Dannered Teth Adom's baseline form, in preparation to fight the mind controlled League.
I'm thinking it would be worthwhile to find a way to eliminate alchemical changes to the body. Not only would this be useful for depowering villains that have such powers, it would let KF get purged so he can get a pure Garrick dose.
Hypothetically, could a "Homo Magi" like Zatanna benefit from the Danner or Garrick formulas? Or are they incompatible due to being a divergent subspecies of humanity?

Zatanna is a proverbial "glass cannon" i.e. squishy wizard, so Dannering her would help reduce her physical vulnerability and give her a trump card (ace in the hole?).

Yes, I understand that Zatanna would get far more use out of Garrick than Danner because it'd greatly boost how fast she can talk, but doing so would make her way too powerful. Combine that with access to the love-fueled Star Sapphire, and she'd a total story-breaker.

John Constantine: "Why are you offering me a free power-up?"
OL: "I need to see if Dannering a magician has any side effects before I use it on someone I care about, and I'm a little curious how much trouble you can get into if you're superhumanly strong and durable."
John Constantine: "At least you're being honest. Okay, hit me."
OL: "By the Power of Greyskull!"*
Dannered!Constantine: "I have the powahhhh!!!"
[meanwhile]
Eris: "CHAOS!!!"

*Question: Did "He-Man" air in Britain during the 1980s?
 
Hypothetically, could a "Homo Magi" like Zatanna benefit from the Danner or Garrick formulas? Or are they incompatible due to being a divergent subspecies of humanity?

Paul tested the alchemical formulas on rodents, I don't see what might not even technically qualify as a subspecies would make any difference.

Nor would I expect it to interfere with her magical abilities, since it seemingly doesn't interfere with Teth-Adam's powers, which after all, are magical in nature.
 
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